Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Smith or Pau

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Smith
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby karacha on Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:24 pm

Nice poll there. 17-17.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby 432J on Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:27 pm

jjin28 wrote:
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John3:16 wrote:Smith and korver for Gasol. I'm in.

god that would be amazing


Throw in Deshawn Stevenson and Duhon in the deal, and I'm in.
Stevenson is a lebron hater and a kobe fan. Perfect for some tough obnixous defense when we go up against bron and miami in the finals.

gasol+duhon for smith, korver, stevenson
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:48 pm

Varejao is ballin' right now for the Cavs..... 21/11 at half time, dude is solid.

Varejao / Gibson / Gee.....for Pau/Blake/Ebanks....

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Defense/Rebounding - Check
Young guns for MDA - Check
2 additions to the bench - Check
3 point shooting - Check

Nash / Gibson
Kobe / Meeks
MWP / Gee
Varejao / Jamison
D12 / Hill

You kidding me?
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby gill on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:44 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Varejao is ballin' right now for the Cavs..... 21/11 at half time, dude is solid.

Varejao / Gibson / Gee.....for Pau/Blake/Ebanks....

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Defense/Rebounding - Check
Young guns for MDA - Check
2 additions to the bench - Check
3 point shooting - Check

Nash / Gibson
Kobe / Meeks
MWP / Gee
Varejao / Jamison
D12 / Hill

You kidding me?


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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Balance&Options24 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:47 pm

Imagine Varejo and Hill running around hustling and rebounding.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:50 pm

Update on AV.....35 and 18....

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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby khmrP on Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:52 pm

and why would Clev do that?
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:42 pm

khmrP wrote:and why would Clev do that?


YOLO


They can keep Gee, hell I'd take AV/Gibson with a Pietrus FA signing to fill in for Gee.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:28 pm

I'm looking at Utah and they probably want to free Kanter and Favors. Both Al Jefferson and Millsap are expirings. I would try to go with bringing Millsap and MoWill for Pau and some of our young guards or Sacre. Utah has enough cap to take on Pau and they're not necessarily a key destination for free agency.

Mo is a bomber and can get to the cup. He expires and we can reup him if he wants. Millsap is not a stretch four, but he has a motor, crashes the boards and does have a jumper for pick n pops.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby karacha on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:53 pm

Josh Smith.

Or anyone else mentioned in this thread. :man10:
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby lakersyunowin on Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:59 pm

we need to start seriously entertaining good trades for pau.

maybe he will, but i don't see him blossoming that much under d'antoni's coaching
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Finwë on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:07 pm

Get some calls in Mitch!
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby GNC on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:10 pm

We have been waiting for Pau to get out of this funk for two years now, hoping that we would see the aggressive pau from our championship run. That Pau is long gone.

If we can get something of value we need to do it ASAP.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby escobar8 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:15 pm

right now i would trade him even for joe smith...
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby lakersyunowin on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:17 pm

36 fg% in his last five :man3:
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Scnottaken on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:20 pm

Would Josh Smith really have helped this team this game? Why did the votes change so radically?
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:23 pm

fkmikebrown wrote:36 fg% in his last five :man3:


Ladies and gents....your stretch 4.

I keep harping on this, but this is why its really lame for management to keep saying D'Antoni's system fits this team. Either Pau has to be your pick n pop guy (but Dwight is who doesn't have a jumper by the way) or he needs to be your stretch four to give space for PnR action.

I have a hard time seeing how D'Antoni can make pick up the pace if both Dwight and Pau are out there at the same time. Basically you have to make a 19M guy coming off the bench.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby earvinfr on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:27 pm

Right now, I even want to trade back Pau for Kwarme :mad1:
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:27 pm

I don't think JSmith is the answer and I really don't think ATL will even do that trade. You had Ferry literally laugh it off once they came to him that Magic mentioned the trade scenario on TV.

I really would look to Utah. They have so much cap open up this summer, but FAs don't really go there. Kanter and Favors need more minutes and Al Jeff and Millsap having expiring Ks.

Kanter next to Pau or favors next to Pau would look good for Utah. Millsap would make alot of sense for D'Antoni's system cause h has a jumper and you don't have to really run a play for the guy. He's got a motor on him and that compliments an uptempo game.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Pig Miller on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:31 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:I don't think JSmith is the answer and I really don't think ATL will even do that trade. You had Ferry literally laugh it off once they came to him that Magic mentioned the trade scenario on TV.

I really would look to Utah. They have so much cap open up this summer, but FAs don't really go there. Kanter and Favors need more minutes and Al Jeff and Millsap having expiring Ks.

Kanter next to Pau or favors next to Pau would look good for Utah. Millsap would make alot of sense for D'Antoni's system cause h has a jumper and you don't have to really run a play for the guy. He's got a motor on him and that compliments an uptempo game.


i don't think they want to take on the additional year of pau's contract. I really like milsap, but Jefferson is really uninspiring.

utah will likely want the cap space to re-sign some of it's own guys. they'll also need a true PG, and especially with mo williams being a FA
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:37 pm

^^Agreed, I'm just banking on FAs really not wanting to go to Utah.

But its going to hard to trade Pau this year...really really hard cause his contract has 2 year left with roughly 20M per...the super tax kicks in this summer, so already most of the smaller market teams will want no part of his contract.

You can try to sell it as an expiring to get back long contracts that other teams don't want...but that's next year.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby Pig Miller on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:44 pm

there's only a few teams i can imagine taking him on, and it all involves taking a terrible contract in return (chicago for instance).

doesn't denver need a low post threat? they have more than enough depth to move a couple pieces for pau.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby gill on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:46 pm

Pig Miller wrote:there's only a few teams i can imagine taking him on, and it all involves taking a terrible contract in return (chicago for instance).

doesn't denver need a low post threat? they have more than enough depth to move a couple pieces for pau.


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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby noobiew on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:49 pm

Pau Gasol is a Center and he has been played out of his position that why he is struggling, during our championship run Pau was our 5 while Odom was our 4 in the majority of the times, Pau needs to be played as a Center period, we are misused him and turning him into Dirk, he should works and force his man to play in the post to maximizes his potential, he is too slow and immobile to play outside the paint as a 4, He is consistently taking shots further and further away from the paint, that was not his game, that why he's in 30% FG shooting mid-range jumpshot this season currently with us.

Under D'Antoni he will be even worse I think since Dwight will be our low post player, we should seriously consider to mixes up the lineup and bring him off the bench to backup Dwight at the Center position, Jamison could played stretch 4 alongside Dwight in the starting lineup to provide spacing, I rather see Jamison & Hill playing in the 4 position instead of Pau, let Pau plays in his natural position and to do the damage attacking in the post. I think this could benefit both Pau as well as the Lakers.
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Re: Under D'Antoni, PAU or Josh Smith?

Postby LUUUKE on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:57 pm

i really do believe management would like to trade PAU for some young pieces before the deadline. we're the oldest team in the league.

josh smith is the answer. we couldve already had him but mitch got too greedy asking for teague but rightfully so.

pau is going to be traded soon. i mean come on we traded him once already.
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