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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby borri on Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:11 am

Wes Johnson = what a waste of length and athleticism.

Man he's bad. Good lord he's bad.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Toklat on Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:42 pm

What made Ariza, Clark and Brown better wasn't putting on a Laker's jersey though that does help. What made them better was playing with Kobe. His confidence, work ethic and just the fact that he draws so much attention on the court helps these guys tremendously. Most digress when they leave the Lakers for that same reason. They no longer are playing with Kobe. I'm not giving up on Wes till he has some floor time with Kobe.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby purp n gold on Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:40 pm

khmrP wrote:
OX1947 wrote:
khmrP wrote:if Corey Brewer another Minn bust could revive his career, Wes could do too, alot slimmer chance here though.


Cory was never a bust. he had some really bad injuries to start his career that derailed him for a while.


he was a bust before the injury, his shooting was horrid his rookie year and 2nd year prior to getting injured as well.


Corey is a different kind of player. He earns time on the floor bc of hustle, defense and rebounding. Those are his best skills. His 3-pt shot came later and that's when became a rotation player.

Wes Johnson to me looks like a slasher. Unfortunately, he doesn't know how to attack the basket with the ball or make a decent cut without it. No jumpshot and on top of it all he looks lost out there.

I think Henry plays SF when Kobe comes back and Nick Young becomes the 2nd unit scoring option.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:04 pm

^^^ this would be my he as well. Johnson can be a short stint energy guy and Young needs to be in focused and shorter minutes as well. He may get you 30 on a given night but you have to go through 10 games like these first 2 to get it.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby revgen on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:23 pm

Johnson actually looked like he knew how to play basketball in this game. I hope this isn't an anomaly.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Lakerjones on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:24 pm

Big props to Wes for a great game tonight. Best yet as a Laker. Hope this bodes well for the future.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:26 pm

Play him at the 3 where he can match up with people. It doesn't make him look like garbage when he is just overmatched and it saves our crappy defense from having to go double his man.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Lakerjones on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:28 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Play him at the 3 where he can match up with people. It doesn't make him look like garbage when he is just overmatched and it saves our crappy defense from having to go double his man.


:man10: Making way too much sense, Doc.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby sister golden hair on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:34 pm

Lakerjones wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:Play him at the 3 where he can match up with people. It doesn't make him look like garbage when he is just overmatched and it saves our crappy defense from having to go double his man.


:man10: Making way too much sense, Doc.


If we can see it, then why does MDA even think about matching him up with opposing PFs?

Spreading the floor is a nice goal, but i should not drive every single tactical move one makes.

That's just absurd.

I've said it many times: MDA is anot a good coach. Whatever small ball "innovations" he may have introduced (which I challenge, btw, see Don nelson's coaching career), I think the game has passed him by. Other coaches are doing what he did better than he's doing it now. His rotations are poor. Just not good. Oh, well.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby XXIV on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:47 pm

Wesley had a really good game tonight, he played like many of us thought he would. The defense, energy, and shooting seemed to be all there and if he can learn to play like that more often I think he can really find his niche on this team.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Lakerjones on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:48 pm

sister golden hair wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:Play him at the 3 where he can match up with people. It doesn't make him look like garbage when he is just overmatched and it saves our crappy defense from having to go double his man.


:man10: Making way too much sense, Doc.


If we can see it, then why does MDA even think about matching him up with opposing PFs?

Spreading the floor is a nice goal, but i should not drive every single tactical move one makes.

That's just absurd.

I've said it many times: MDA is anot a good coach. Whatever small ball "innovations" he may have introduced (which I challenge, btw, see Don nelson's coaching career), I think the game has passed him by. Other coaches are doing what he did better than he's doing it now. His rotations are poor. Just not good. Oh, well.


:man10: Well, you're not going to get any argument from me on this! With me you're preaching to the choir.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:33 am

I'm excited about what he brings if he's consistent. Slashing to the rim creating easy opportunities for himself, hitting 3's, playing the passing lanes with his wingspan, blocking two shots; this is what we need every night from him. If he can do this consistently, it will be such a huge help.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Lakerjones on Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:50 am

Radical concept here. Why not insert Wesley into the starting lineup at the three where he belongs until Kobe returns? Move Swaggy P to the 2 where he can take advantage of his height over most opposing 2's. Stop the HORRIBLE Nash/Blake experiment that I've always hated. Wes is starting to get his footing, but he gets way too burned at the 4 defensively. Put him where he can play more naturally. Early in the pre-season he looked lost with the starters, but I think now that he's playing better they should at least try a more traditional lineup. Either keep Williams at 4 to stretch the floor or start Hill, whatever.

Then the bench becomes Farmar, Meeks, Henry, Hill or Williams and Kaman, which is great. Blake should just play spot minutes at the 1 either replacing Nash when he can't go or to spell him some minutes until the full second unit comes in.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:02 am

:man10: :man10: :man10: LMAO!! What are you smoking? Makes waaay too much sense.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Toklat on Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:12 am

I don't mind Nash and Blake playing together but it needs to be with the second unit. Your best point guard should not be coming off the bench. It is just too important of a position. I like Wes in the starting line up as well.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:07 pm

dwighthowardsdad wrote:I'm excited about what he brings if he's consistent. Slashing to the rim creating easy opportunities for himself, hitting 3's, playing the passing lanes with his wingspan, blocking two shots; this is what we need every night from him. If he can do this consistently, it will be such a huge help.


His career is exactly what we've seen so far..... Stinker after stinker and then a game that makes the coach think he's got a chance....... Rinse and repeat.

He played OK last night.... Still was leaving his man to help when the team set didn't dictate it. He was the one largely responsible for the wide open threes and the lack of rotations all night. He's lost in the team defensive set.

He hit some shots and was active on the offensive end and had his best game in that respect.

I hope he can turn a corner but at this point his minutes should be limited and he should be on the court with Farmar and the second unit because the run more. As a starter his lack of understanding would be even more exposed.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby SK8 on Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:27 pm

That block on fadeaway by Leonard was amazing, he was good last night, let's see can he build any consistency.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:41 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
He played OK last night.... Still was leaving his man to help when the team set didn't dictate it. He was the one largely responsible for the wide open threes and the lack of rotations all night. He's lost in the team defensive set.
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That's what everyone on the team does though. The ball goes in the post, no matter who it is, no matter who is guarding them, someone is always running over to double team and it's screws the whole defense up.

Blake runs around and doubles people for no reason all the time.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:13 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
He played OK last night.... Still was leaving his man to help when the team set didn't dictate it. He was the one largely responsible for the wide open threes and the lack of rotations all night. He's lost in the team defensive set.
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That's what everyone on the team does though. The ball goes in the post, no matter who it is, no matter who is guarding them, someone is always running over to double team and it's screws the whole defense up.

Blake runs around and doubles people for no reason all the time.


I agree to some extent. He's been particularly bad in doing that. On offense, he will not work well with the ones who aren't pushing the ball. Again, he will get lost most of the time on that end. He just stands there and has no feel for moving without the ball.

If he can hit the three with any regularity and plays with energy and hustle he's an asset out there for sure.... I just don't see much else.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby borri on Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:33 am

Boy the Devean George comparison is eerie. Two guys with all the natural physical gifts, but nothing between the head.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby purp n gold on Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:41 am

Xavier moves to the starting 3, & Wes Johnson plays more 3 off the bench. I think he's looked immediately better in that role, but I still worry about his consistency like others have said.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:49 am

His activity around the rim on D was great in the 2nd half
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Wesley Johnson is better then MWP

Postby Slurpee22 on Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:55 am

It's a relief, that the Lakers finally have a defensive stopper who doesn't jack up 15 shots per game... yes Wesley does at times, take bad shots... but he's really turning into a semi all-star player... and he still hasn't felt comfortable yet.

this management did a great job finding so many GEMS in the off-season.
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Re: Wesley Johnson is better then MWP

Postby karacha on Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:00 am

Now? Yeah, probably.

But a 26-year old Metta was a 19/6/3 beast who played the best perimeter D in the league.

I am not going to comment on the "semi all-star" part.
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Re: Wesley Johnson Discussion

Postby Weezy on Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:04 am

Merged "Wes Johnson is better than MWP" thread with existing Wes thread. And I need more than 4 games to agree with this, I am enjoying his blocked shots though. Still, and no offense, but after your "the Lakers will win the 2014 championship" thread, and then calling Wes a "semi-all-star" (is that even a thing, you're either an all-star or not?), I have to wonder how serious you actually are.
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