What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:34 pm

Lebron will stay with the Heat. He's not going to leave. Be realistic.

Melo will want to come to LA. He will be 30 years old. Are you willing to offer a max contract to a 30 year old Melo who has never won anything and has never been considered a real superstar?

In that case, we should save the money and wait for Kevin Love or a shot at Kevin Durant.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby nba2k14 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:39 pm

Melo is not the guy you want to commit long-term money in his 30s. Do not make this mistake over a declining superstar again. Please!

Durant or Westbrook is a much better target because they would still be in their prime and approaching their peak.

So basically, in 2014, the Lakers will be force to bring in some "money sucker" free agents and play as mediocre. No draft pick, no young promising star for fan to enjoy watching him grow. I mean Robert Sacre is their "potential" star. Can you believe that? Just that thought of old grandpa player with Robert Sacre as their promising young player just make you want to poop.

It will be a tough road ahead and I'm not confident the Lakers FO have the brain to envision this. They put too much stock in D12 and now he's gone, they are scrambling to fix hole instead of really putting down a legit game plan.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:14 pm

I doubt that the Lakers will entice a great FA in the summer of 14. It's more likely that they flip an expiring Pau for someone that's become too expensive on another team under the new CBA.

That's more of Mitch's style.

That being said, I think that Dwight is an anomaly. Most players would love to give LA a shot, and having Mitch is still enough to give a mature player some assurance that the team can rebuild around them.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:23 pm

I know.....

But I'm not telling.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:32 pm

^Provocateur. :man12:
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby purp n gold on Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:19 pm

Westbrook
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Melo
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Pau
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby OX1947 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:34 pm

Please God, no Westbrook. Get Lebron and Melo and the Lakers win the title in 2015. No one could stop that team. Hopefully, Gasol signs for cheap and the lakers get a good PG in the draft. Done.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:40 pm

We have no cap space for other players because lottery picks (Wesley Johnson, Nick Young and Jordan Hill) on our team exploded and just won the title in surprising fashion. :jam2:
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:45 am

Depends.. If the Heat 3peat Lebron isn't going anywhere.. If the Knicks can't atleast make the finals this season I think Melo is as good as ours. Best case scenario: the Nets, Pacers, or Bulls come out of the East.. The earlier NY & Mia get eliminated, the more I like our chances.

Every instinct I have tells me Melo will be a Laker next season. I think Melo + using the rest of our cap on the right players will have us back in the finals the first season.. If we get both Lebron & Melo, or even just Lebron + the right players with the rest of our cap, we'll win a chip next season.

Give me Melo (19M).. A good big - Larry Sanders, Cousins, AV, Monroe, Zbo.. I'd prefer Sanders because I think he works best with the other bigs I want & he won't get huge money because he can't score.. If we're lucky maybe 6M, the way these paycuts guys have been taking to be Lakers, who knows how cheap we'll get him.. I'm not that worried about spending on a PG, most of the guys worth spending on are restricted or have team options.. There are so many good PG's in the league & with Kobe & Melo, all you need is someone who plays defense & hits 3's. Someone like Bradley, Vasquez, Collison would be awesome but not our best use of the remaining cap.. Melo, Sanders, Kelly?, possibly 3M guaranteed to Nash if he's cut, nothing if he retires, 9.7 if we keep im & don't stretch him. Either way, we have a good chunk of change left, & I try to convince Kobe to go reach out to Pau & Dirk to split it with them.. PG/Kobe/Melo/Dirk/Sanders with Pau & hopefully Young, Johnson, Farmar on the bench atleast.. That team would be incredible. That's more what I hope happens in summer 2014, but it's not that big of a stretch either.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby kakafung on Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:28 am

i don't think the lakers would offer him a max contract based on the cap space.
I'm also confident that melo wouldn''t come to the lakers wihtout the max contract .
kobe's performance after the tendon Achilles is really X-factor for melo's mind next year .
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Phil XI on Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:48 am

It all depends on who will coach.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:57 am

I hope we are going to spend on a pseudo star just to put people in the seats.... Melo isn't in the Laker mold and he isn't a leader/winner. Waiting for Westbrook is another horrible idea.... he's a lot like Melo.

I hope we accumulate picks and do it right and build slowly. Paying retail in the FA market with the new CBA isn't going to fill all of the holes we have to fill. We need to start developing our own players including our next star. Melo, Westbrook, Wall etc. are not going to get us any closer to a championship than we are today.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:04 am

Yeah it's Lebron or build over the next few seasons ... I agree with Roos take ... it asks a HUGE change of culture and strategy from people who call the shots within our organization though.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby lakerfan2 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:24 am

lol who knows what's realistic or not...

is it a dream, or a dream within a dream? :man11:
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:51 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Yeah it's Lebron or build over the next few seasons ... I agree with Roos take ... it asks a HUGE change of culture and strategy from people who call the shots within our organization though.


If we have to rebuild sudden like.... I hope we use our cap room in inventive ways... I think we can create TPE and get players that are under contract without having to be buyers in the FA market.

Our scouting dept. scares me however ... we never seem to focus on the "fill-in" players.... well except this offseason because it's all we can do and we have numerous open roster spots to fill.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby lakerfan2 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:58 am

^ What's nice about the players we've picked up this summer is that I wouldn't mind given them a higher cut if they performed. I would LOVE these guys off the bench for us if they want to stay, right?

Nash/Farmar
Kobe/Young
Lebron/Johnson
Melo/LO
Pau/Kaman/Hill

That's a championship roster right there.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby The Rock on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:00 am

Get a top 5 draft pick, sign Melo, re-sign Kobe and Pau. Get Kyle Lowry. And we're set to contend
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:02 am

lakerfan2 wrote:^ What's nice about the players we've picked up this summer is that I wouldn't mind given them a higher cut if they performed. I would LOVE these guys off the bench for us if they want to stay, right?

Nash/Farmar
Kobe/Young
Lebron/Johnson
Melo/LO
Pau/Kaman/Hill

That's a championship roster right there.


LeBron has just barely fixed his image publicly..... no way he leaves Miami after their run. They could win 2 more in a row potentially.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby nduri on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:35 am

With the youngsters showing great promise. Kobe comes back in late December, lacks explosiveness, but refines his game, gets career high in assists and a/t ratio. Fire D'antoni/Hire Derek Fisher as head coach. We miss the playoffs despite a strong finish to the season. We get the number 1 pick and draft Andrew Wiggins, to no one's surprise. Heat lose to the Nets in 7 games. Lebron signs with the Lakers. We give the youngsters a bump in salary and long term deals, sign other players to 1 year deals to round out the roster. :bow: MITCH!
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby live and die in LA on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:49 am

Not sure I would agree, but Brandon Jennings will want to come if he is forced to sign a 1 year qualifying offer with the bucks. It seems like he has no other choice.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Ludachris on Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:47 am

LOL - I know the Lakers have been able to pull off some big things in the past, but I don't see how some of you really think LeBron will leave Miami just to start over with the Lakers. The Heat front office with Pat Riley is doing pretty well right now. If I were LeBron, and didn't pull off a 3-peat next year, I'd still stay in Miami anyway and trust that Riley would be able to bring in some good talent.

As for Melo, I don't see him wanting to leave NY just yet. He loves being there and will give them another few years to put the pieces in place. I think he'd rather play for a good playoff Knicks team than go somewhere else, even if he thought he had a better chance of winning somewhere else. Everything he does shows how much he loves playing for the team where he grew up. And I don't think he's the best option for this team anyway.

So if not those two, then what happens in 2014? I think they might pull the trigger at the trade deadline before that to use up one of those expiring contracts, since they'll have nothing to trade next summer outside of an old Nash - but maybe they try and trade him. Probably for someone far less glamorous - someone who isn't the main target everyone is thinking about. Maybe a strong support player for the guy they really want. I don't think they're just going to sign two max guys for the sake of spending money and filling up the cap. I think they've got their eyes on someone, but it's not the two big superstars that everyone is talking about - someone like a John Wall or Paul George or similar - up and coming superstars, not existing superstars... I just am not sure how they'd make it happen since those guys are restricted free agents whose teams will likely want to keep them. But I think that's the type of player they're truly targeting. That, along with a disgruntled star that wants out of where they're playing now, which they'll try and trade for halfway through this season. That seems like more Mitch's style. And if they don't get who they want next summer, I'd bet they'd save the money instead of just spending it.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:59 am

kakafung wrote:i don't think the lakers would offer him a max contract based on the cap space.
I'm also confident that melo wouldn''t come to the lakers wihtout the max contract .
kobe's performance after the tendon Achilles is really X-factor for melo's mind next year .

Well, the max we could offer Melo or anyone is likely to start around 19.1M.. That's what it's been the last 2 seasons for players with 10+ years. I think some people think we'd have to extend his Knicks contract & pay him the 22M or whatever it is they owe him.. That would only happen if he forced a sign & trade, which I hope we avoid & sign him outright..
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby jellyroll49 on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:04 pm

The Rock wrote:Get a top 5 draft pick, sign Melo, re-sign Kobe and Pau. Get Kyle Lowry. And we're set to contend


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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby Weezy on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:11 pm

jellyroll49 wrote:
The Rock wrote:Get a top 5 draft pick, sign Melo, re-sign Kobe and Pau. Get Kyle Lowry. And we're set to contend


THIS


Yeah, top 5 draft pics are pretty easy to get, I mean crappy teams get them all the time really easily somehow.
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Re: What's likely to happen in Summer of 2014

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:25 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:^ What's nice about the players we've picked up this summer is that I wouldn't mind given them a higher cut if they performed. I would LOVE these guys off the bench for us if they want to stay, right?

Nash/Farmar
Kobe/Young
Lebron/Johnson
Melo/LO
Pau/Kaman/Hill

That's a championship roster right there.


They better contend. It would be the first team to start 5 Hall of Famers. :man4:
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