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Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:40 pm

Thenextgreat wrote:KD

Best case scenario right there for sure :jam2:
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby purp n gold on Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:52 pm

revgen wrote:^No offense to Wall, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dwight pulls an Orlando on us if we pick him up. He has talent, but he doesn't impress me the way Irving does, and his leadership at the NBA level is questionable.


Hell if we could get Kyrie I'd take it over any Wall deal in a heartbeat. But unless Mitch can dupe Gilbert again, I don't see it happening.

But Dwight won't bail, because Wall won't be the only big piece we bring in 2-3 years. My bet is Wall will be acquired cheaply as a forgotten commodity, like the way we brought in Pau. Wall isn't THE guy, and questionable as a #2 guy on a championship team. But as a 2a/2b or 3rd best player on a championship team? I can see it. With the right pieces & coaching staff, Wall could be a cheap version of Westbrook.
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Postby last stand on Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:03 pm

it'll be irving and mitch will send Gilbert an email saying

"If you just let us have paul we wouldn't have needed a PG of the future, thank you anyways :)"

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Postby last stand on Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:07 pm

KD is not leaving OKC unless bridges are burned. Russell westbrook on the other hand may want the ball in his hands only and may leave one day to expand his wings
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Postby CarolinaLakerFan on Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:16 pm

I think Lebron will be in a Laker uniform after his Heat contract is up.
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby Center Court on Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:59 pm

purp n gold wrote:John Wall in 3 years, you read it here first


I've been saying this for quite some time as well.

Wall is an unrestircted FA the year Kobe and Pau end. Maybe Nash opts out with them and they all do their own thing.

If Wall lives up to his potential, I see him as the primary target.

On the other hand, If we are seriosuly contending, which we will be, I can see Nash and Pau staying one more year with Nash and Dwight to try and win it one last time.
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby purp n gold on Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:46 pm

Center Court wrote:
purp n gold wrote:John Wall in 3 years, you read it here first


I've been saying this for quite some time as well.

Wall is an unrestircted FA the year Kobe and Pau end. Maybe Nash opts out with them and they all do their own thing.

If Wall lives up to his potential, I see him as the primary target.

On the other hand, If we are seriosuly contending, which we will be, I can see Nash and Pau staying one more year with Nash and Dwight to try and win it one last time.


Agreed.. even if Wall doesn't live up to his potential (in 3 years), I still see him as a strong candidate to be a Laker as a buy low candidate. In 3 years time, if Wall is attainable for less than a max contract, I can see the Lakers pushing to get him. With Dwight, this team is automatically competitive, and the Laker staff is great at developing players while still getting meaningful minutes out of them (Bynum, Ariza, S. Brown, Ebanks). The difference is Wall can already contribute, and we'd grooming him to be a 2nd/3rd option on a championship team (and not a role player).
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Postby venky on Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:03 pm

CarolinaLakerFan wrote:I think Lebron will be in a Laker uniform after his Heat contract is up.

I wouldn't be surprised. I'd be mad but I wouldn't be surprised. He's the biggest fraud/frontrunner in sports history. Oh well, I guess if it leads to more Lakers Championships...

Then we'd have to deal with the LeBron stans...
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby solenstyle on Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:41 pm

Ricky Rubio and and another great perimeter player.
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Postby mastersworddude on Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:55 pm

Rubio maybe? He's the closest thing to a young Nash.
I also heard Tyreke Evans most likley won't get an extension with the Kings.
I'd prefer up and coming stars, instead of established ones like Anthony or Lebron.
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Postby noobiew on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:04 am

Kyrie Irving or John Wall
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Postby thkthebest on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:04 am

Rubio is closer to Kidd than Nash.
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Postby KB8SD on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:07 am

James Harden should be the next Laker shooting guard after Kobe retires.
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby Ryder Havasu on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:04 am

PG - Ricky Rubio - El Pistola will pick up after Nash
G- Shabazz Muhammad - won't be the next Kobe but has extreme talent and more importantly the drive to be a star of his own.
F- Kevin Durant - if he doesn't win a chip in OKC he will be the next Laker Legend and Mitch Miracle.
F(b) - Klay Thompson - if KD stays in OKC Mychal's boy will be the plan B and the floor spacer for Dwight.
PF- Kevin Love - will fit right in after Pau.

That's my team right there. Not the greatest defensively but offensively has the potential to be downright nasty. The wild card on d is Muhammad he has the athleticism and length to be a beast on the defensive end.
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Postby bystander on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:24 am

purp n gold wrote:John Wall in 3 years, you read it here first


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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby mastersworddude on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:56 am

Ryder Havasu wrote:PG - Ricky Rubio - El Pistola will pick up after Nash
G- Shabazz Muhammad - won't be the next Kobe but has extreme talent and more importantly the drive to be a star of his own.
F- Kevin Durant - if he doesn't win a chip in OKC he will be the next Laker Legend and Mitch Miracle.
F(b) - Klay Thompson - if KD stays in OKC Mychal's boy will be the plan B and the floor spacer for Dwight.
PF- Kevin Love - will fit right in after Pau.

That's my team right there. Not the greatest defensively but offensively has the potential to be downright nasty. The wild card on d is Muhammad he has the athleticism and length to be a beast on the defensive end.

Seems legit.
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby mixtim on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:19 am

Irving,no doubt about that
the kid is gonna be a stud PG,and then stealing him undert Gilbert's nose would be priceless
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:29 am


Is LeBron the Lakers' next big target?
If Kobe Bryant hangs it up in 2014, the door is open for a new King of Los Angeles


No team reloads like the Los Angeles Lakers.

Their track record of leveraging their hometown appeal and history, plus applying shrewd management, over the past 30 years is virtually without peer.

With their latest coups -- the stunning Steve Nash sign-and-trade and a victory in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes -- just now coming together for the first time, could the Lakers already be plotting out the next one?

Opposing executives think so. As teams continue their long-range planning and work up opposition strategies, the Lakers remain just as much a threat in the transaction game as they are on the court.

Several teams' executives have told ESPN.com they believe the Lakers are positioning themselves to make a run at LeBron James in 2014, when the Miami Heat star can choose to become a free agent.

Recently, Kobe Bryant told CBSSports.com that he sees himself playing only two more seasons (2012-13 and 2013-14) and then retiring at age 35. Bryant said similar things in an interview with Yahoo! Sports over the summer.

Bryant has two years left on his contract, and next season he is scheduled to become just the second player ever to earn more than $30 million in a season. The other was Michael Jordan.

Whether or not you believe the ultra-competitive Bryant will follow through with that retirement plan, his statements seem to be a sign that a contract extension or new contract is no sure thing.

In the wake of the Howard trade, much as been made of the massive luxury-tax bill the Lakers are facing next season if they're able to re-sign the big man. ESPN.com salary cap expert Larry Coon has estimated the Lakers could be on the hook for as much as $85 million just in taxes in 2013-14.

But look a little further, to that 2014-15 season, and you'll see something else: The Lakers' projected payroll is almost completely clear. Only Nash is signed for that season, at $9.7 million, though the Lakers will also be paying about $20 million to Howard if they can re-sign him this coming summer.

In July 2013, Bryant's $30.4 million, Pau Gasol's $19.2 million, Metta World Peace's $7.7 million, Steve Blake's $4 million and Jordan Hill's $3.5 million will come off the books. There likely won't even be any first-round draft picks filling up the cap, either, as the Lakers have already traded their 2013 first-round pick to Phoenix in the Nash deal.

Opposing teams that are making their own long-range free agency plans think they see the Lakers' plan coming into focus. As it stands, L.A. will have enough cap space to add a superstar like James.




"It's not a mistake that all those deals end the same year Kobe's does. They have probably been planning for their next phase for a while," said one general manager. "The Busses and [Lakers GM] Mitch [Kupchak] are always thinking about the next big deal."

No one knows this better than Bryant himself, who has been the beneficiary of the Lakers' aggressive maneuvers for 16-plus years.

"I knew how much the Buss family, Jeanie and so forth, wanted to turn it around," Bryant told CBSSports.com. "I've seen them do it. They rebuilt first by picking up Shaq. ... Then that era was over and they rebuilt again. And now they've rebuilt again. I've seen them do it before."

If Bryant does move on after 18 seasons, as he has openly talked about, they may be ready to do it again.

Whether or not James would be interested in listening to a Lakers offer in two years is impossible to predict now. Remember, in 2008, it was hard to see James ending up in Miami in 2010 even though Heat president Pat Riley, a product of the Lakers' way of thinking, was already preparing to make it happen.

At the moment, the Heat are loaded and poised to be title contenders for the next two seasons.

James is signed through 2016, but he can end his contract in either 2014 or 2015 if he wishes to. He has recently said that he's not thought about his contract decision in 2014, even though he recently switched agents. But observers around the league expect James to opt out of his contract in 2014, no matter what happens with the Heat over the next two seasons. That doesn't mean he won't stay in Miami, but it does mean he might be in play again.



"The agent part probably doesn't matter. LeBron is the best player in the league and he's making less than the max, so unless he's seriously hurt he's going to opt out in 2014, if only because I would assume he wants and deserves to get a true max," said one league executive. "Even if the Heat win the next two titles there's a feeling that LeBron is going to become a free agent in two years no matter what."

Just as during the period from 2008 to 2010, James' free agent plans will probably become a big topic over the next 21 months. They will definitely be a part of various teams' long-term cap planning. Presumably, that list of teams includes the Lakers.

Meanwhile, keep an eye on Chris Paul, LeBron's best friend in the NBA. James has wanted to team up with CP3 for seven years or more. In 2005, when Paul was about to be drafted, James asked the Cavs to attempt to move up to get Paul, but the Cavs did not have the assets to pull off such a trade.

Paul and James have only grown closer since, playing together on Team USA four times since 2006 and winning gold medals in 2008 and last summer. Paul will be a free agent in 2013, and his situation could influence James' plans a year later.

In any case, the Lakers are positioning themselves to be major players again, post-Bryant. Based on their long track record, there's no reason to believe they won't aim for the biggest star possible. In 2014, that likely will be LeBron James.


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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:19 am

I believe Kevin Love & John Wall will be Lakers. I'd love to end up with Melo as well, or in place of one of those guys.. His game is going to last a long time.
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby JGC on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:41 pm

Man why are we even discussing this? Haha. I mean, what's next? Which player should we go after once Dwight retires? Haha.

I honestly think we ought to wait at least until D12 makes a long term commitment with us before even thinking about this.
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Postby OX1947 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:47 pm

If the Lakers get Lebron after 2014, the hell with the Celtics, Lakers would start chasing the Yankees for all time titles.
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Postby lakersStan24 on Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:56 am

CarolinaLakerFan wrote:I think Lebron will be in a Laker uniform after his Heat contract is up.

Agreed
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Re: which player should the Lakers go After to help Dwight After

Postby Dyeggoo on Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:18 am

lakersStan24 wrote:
CarolinaLakerFan wrote:I think Lebron will be in a Laker uniform after his Heat contract is up.

Agreed


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