sister golden hair wrote:I think Jim Buss would be better served as owner, and allow "basketball heads" to make the day-to-day moves, evaluation, etc. People can bring up "Scott May vs Bynum" all they want. If true, that speaks to Mitch's inadequacies in that instance more than Jimmie's clairvoyance. (Mitch has a soft-spot for UNC guys -- I think that's been pretty well established.) But no knowledgable laker fan I knew wanted Scott May -- he had tons of red flags. If you want to give Jim credit for that, go ahead. I just don't see how it means very much. Moreover, the irony of the Bynum pick seems to escape everyone who brings it up in support of Jim. The guy who initially flagged Bynum for the Lakers (before anyone else) was Ronnie Lester -- you know, the same Ronnie Lester that was assistant GM under Mitch and who was unceremoniously dumped by Jimmie during the PJ-purge.
WIthout Ronnie doing the dirty work of identifying the raw clay Bynum had to work with, Jimmie doesn't even get a chance to hitch his wagon to Bynum (if that is indeed what happened).
I dunno. To me the answer seems pretty straightforward. I don't think Mitch says "no" often enough (or at all) to Jim. I think the quality of the decision-making has suffered because of that.
"People" here again.....
it would be nice to do this first person but you seem to be evading me....
First.... it's not "Scott"......
Lester did the initial legwork on Bynum at Jimmy's request. He also was overruled by Mitch and Phil.... only to be overruled by Jimmy and the Dr. That whole thing has been fairly well documented so the "if true" stuff is a little off base unless those same "insiders" are just as wrong about most of the other things we hear about Jimmy that nobody likes. I didn't like the Lester firing either but to say that he pushed for Bynum alone and imply that Jimmy takes credit for it erroneously is re-writing what happened from all accounts. It still doesn't change the fact that Mitch and Phil wanted May..... even if Jimmy was only the decider in that you should thank god for that.
Fact is that Luke's contract.... Radman's contracts (among the worst we've done in the last 10 years) were not his personnel decisions escapes you as well. Let's not even go to the wanting to trade Kobe for Kidd or Bynum for JO or Kidd demands by Phil. It will be interesting to see how you weave Jimmy into these little tidbits.....
As I said before.... i'm no Jimmy apologist but the revisionist history here is pretty thick. We're in a bad situation after 14 years of contending almost every year.... when that comes to an end as it did in 1990 you have considerable rebuilding to do. At least Jimmy hasn't named Coaches like these under the Dr and Jerry West's watch:
We can't forget that those two also brought us Peeler, Lynch and Jacobson in the first round and traded up for Celestand and Rogers in the second round.
Point being that even the ones we think are legendary made nearly a decade of questionable decisions using hindsight before the stars aligned and we signed Shaq and rolled the dice on Kobe. Kobe was no sure thing btw.... other than Malone no HS kid had made a successful transition and Garnett was only a year into his career so Kobe was a gamble that turned out to be a massive home run but Laker Fans were not behind the pick 100%....
Larger point here is a lot of things have to go right to create a championship roster and coaching staff. We swung for the fences in 04 and again in 2010 and yet again last year and each time it didn't work out. I guess it depends on who you blame each one of those on with your 20-20 hindsight but there are only 2 of the 3 leaders who were in their current positions for all 3 strikes..... and Jimmy isn't one of them. Maybe one of the others needs to move to a ceremonial position.....
You can write eloquent posts going on and on about what you believe and how those who see it differently ( or clearly) are fools all you want but I've followed the team through 3 owners now and this is the beginning of the 3rd dry spell I've seen and I'll rely on the reality of the last 2 rather than thinking a new "figure head" will magically overcome the CBA, draft, coaching and FA issues all at once.