Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Who gets your vote?

Jerry Sloan
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Stan Van Gundy
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Jeff Van Gundy
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George Carl
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8%
Byron Scott
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10%
Kurt Rambis
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Someone else
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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby Snakell Beast on Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:31 pm

George Karl or Jeff Van Gundy...the only two men I would consider at this point. Too much baggage for Scott, too little sample size for Hollins or Shaw.
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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby Savory Griddles on Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:45 pm

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KareemTheGreat33 wrote:I'll predict we'll get Byron Scott :man10:

It's the easy choice. More proven than any available former Laker alum in the coaching biz.

Ooh, the delusion is strong with this one!

Have you examined how Scott has lost each of his teams over time? Look at his tenure in each head coaching gig he had: New Jersey (now Brooklyn), New Orleans and Cleveland. He lost the team toward the end in each city and he doesn't appear to have learned what he needed to learn from those jobs.

A firm no! to Scott... Loved him as a player way back when, but he has clearly shown he can't keep his teams together as a coach.

What I want thought is Big Game James... he has the pedigree and desire... champion and MVP

Worthy has no coaching experience. At all. It's been 20 years since he retired and he has never even taken an assistant coaching job. At this point, he makes a comfortable living, he doesn't have to travel, not sure why he gives that up.


I'm sorry so I can't speculate or suggest the next coach?!? :man10: :man10: Like the other posters here, my two cents on the OPs question means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Riley started in the booth too. I suggest Big Game because from what I've seen, he seems smart, intense and might bring something fresh to the table.


I'm really concerned that Scott has already got his foot in the door. I think he'd be a horrible choice as well as he has lost the locker room at 3 different locations. But him working with Time Warner on Laker telecasts, Jim being easily swayed in interviews (Mike Brown), trying to maybe relive past Showtime glory...just a lot of stuff scares me that he may be in line.
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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby Armani on Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:32 pm

Karl isn't a proven coach in the playoffs... he'll get pretty good regular season teams, but that's about it.

I don't mind having Fisher as the assistant coach and having one of the Van Gundy's as the main coach. That's probably the best we can do.
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Postby jlkr on Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:15 pm

There are not too many "proven in the playoffs" coaches who are available. Them that won championships: Eric Spoelstra, Rick Carlisle, Pop, PJax, Doc Rivers, Pat Riley, Larry Brown. To name the guys who have won the titles going back to 1996. None of them are available.

How about the guys who made it to the Finals but didn't win there: Brooks, Stan Van Gundy, Mike Brown, Avery Johnson, Byron Scott, Larry Bird, Jeff Van Gundy, Jerry Sloan. Out of that crowd, the only ones I like who are available would be the Van Gundy's.

Playoff proven to me means Finals appearances. A real short list there.

I like Fisher, but not yet. The precedent for hiring him would be Jason Kidd and Mark Jackson. A mixed bag: Kidd clearly should have apprenticed himself as an assistant to another head coach for a year or two before trying to get his own gig. On the hand, Jackson made it work at GS. Could Fisher do it? I suppose. He'd have Kobe's respect out of the gate.
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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby lukewaltonsdad on Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:40 pm

LOS ANGELES — Fresh face offering much-needed hope for the demoralized Los Angeles Lakers fan base? Check.

Part of the Lakers family from prior experience? Check.

NBA coaching experience? Check.

A successful head coach before? Check.

Someone who won't break the bank to hire and commit to, considering it's unclear what free agents might be coming in the future? Check.

Someone in whom Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak believes? Check.

Someone in whom Kobe Bryant believes? Check.

As we mentioned last week, the Lakers have yet to decide what to do with Mike D'Antoni, but if they hire a new head coach, Quin Snyder gets my vote.

Snyder, to sum it all up, is both smart and cool.

That's the kind of combo you want to lead NBA players these days, especially when the atmosphere in Lakerland is, well, awfully stale.

Snyder, 47, is currently an assistant coach with the Atlanta Hawks, taking that job to work under longtime Gregg Popovich lead assistant and first-year Hawks head coach Mike Budenholzer. Snyder has ties to Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs, has learned from Doug Collins and was a Lakers assistant coach under Mike Brown in 2011-12.

Before you condemn Snyder for that last association, consider he had enough reservations about working for Brown that he broke off after just one season. Lakers players started breaking off from Brown before that and seeking out Snyder more and more late in that season. (And the Lakers followed their lead and broke off from Brown by firing him quite early in the ensuing season.)

Snyder left Brown to follow fellow Lakers assistant coach Ettore Messina, a Euroleague legend who also left after just one season. Snyder was Messina's lead assistant at European power CSKA Moscow, then headed to Atlanta last offseason. Snyder had some feelers from clubs about head-coaching jobs, too.

Snyder's old Duke roommate, Danny Ferry, is general manager of the Hawks. Both of them played for Mike Krzyzewski at Duke. Snyder was also Krzyzewski's assistant coach at Duke before becoming the head coach at the University of Missouri and later the Austin Toros of the NBA Development League.

There has been some thought in the Lakers' inner circle about the sense it would make to hire a young, unproven coach—as the Boston Celtics did in grabbing Brad Stevens from Butler—to grow with the retooling Lakers. If it's a failure and the Lakers have to bring in a recycled, veteran coach to lead some free-agent hired guns in pursuit of an NBA title in 2016-17, then they won't be eating a huge salary by firing a less accomplished head coach.

But the Lakers also don't want to be hiring head coaches as often as they have been lately, preferring some stability. Yes, there is basic logic in thinking Kentucky's John Calipari makes sense as a friend to LeBron James, or Connecticut's Kevin Ollie makes sense as a mentor to Kevin Durant (or hiring Byron Scott for Lakers ties), but the Lakers aren't going to hire someone based on such a singular thread. Maybe one of those college coaches is the best guy overall, in the Lakers' opinion, but there is also a clear fit with Snyder. The reason his star didn't keep rising was a sense that the Mizzou program was out of control, even though the NCAA violations wound up relatively minor when he left in 2006. And now he has valuable NBA experience, too.

Like Kupchak, Snyder has a curious yet practical mind, which is why he, like Kupchak did at UCLA, got his MBA at Duke after his playing days. (Snyder also got a law degree at Duke. You're never too old to keep learning, so go hit the books if you want to keep up, Mitch.)

Another curious, practical sort—Bryant—spent an inordinate amount of time with someone who was supposed to be a lesser assistant in Snyder's one Lakers season. That said a lot.

Snyder knows his way around a rebuild, having been a Duke assistant when the Blue Devils were actually 13-18 before returning to grandeur. Snyder immediately turned around the Missouri program and was with Collins as he jump-started the Philadelphia 76ers in 2010-11 into a playoff team.

If the Lakers aren't going to be able to reload for Bryant in 2014 free agency, it would be nice at least to give him a coach he feels more comfortable with as he resumes his status as the team's centerpiece.

But beyond that, Snyder's blend of energy and authority to inspire players would give the Lakers the sort of immediate makeover they very much need.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2024 ... uin-snyder

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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby TIME on Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:01 pm

Works for me. Snyder, Ollie, Cal all fit in the category of "anyone but D'Antoni".
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Postby Lakerjones on Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:25 pm

TIME wrote:Works for me. Snyder, Ollie, Cal all fit in the category of "anyone but D'Antoni".


I'm not especially thrilled with the college coaches although Ollie is impressive in his own right and what he's done. I don't like Calipari much. He always struck as me a blow hard and I find him irritating. But yeah, Snyder sounds like he might work and he has familiarity with us and vice versa. And he knows the NBA well. I'd roll the dice on him - as TIME mentioned, pretty much anyone is better than Antoni. Except Mike Dunleavy.
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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby revgen on Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:46 am

I'm not digging the college coach route.

It sounds like the FO is looking for a cheap coach who will be a "yes man". The best coaches aren't yes men. Jerry Buss had to go through Dunleavy, Randy Pfund, Magic, and Del Harris before he figured that out. I'm not eager to await the same process from his son.
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Postby jlkr on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:02 pm

Baseball cap boy has to get this one right or Jeanie needs to take the final say on coach selection out of his hands.

Quin Snyder is an intriguing name. Probably wouldn't ask for MDA-style money to start. I'm not sold on college coaches either. Of the established coaches, I like Stan Van Gundy best, but that isn't saying a lot. Maybe it's time they looked elsewhere?
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:06 pm

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TIME wrote:Works for me. Snyder, Ollie, Cal all fit in the category of "anyone but D'Antoni".


I'm not especially thrilled with the college coaches although Ollie is impressive in his own right and what he's done. I don't like Calipari much. He always struck as me a blow hard and I find him irritating. But yeah, Snyder sounds like he might work and he has familiarity with us and vice versa. And he knows the NBA well. I'd roll the dice on him - as TIME mentioned, pretty much anyone is better than Antoni. Except Mike Dunleavy.

I'd be fine with the college coach approach. We've got a legacy program and part of that means we're a little stuck up in our atmosphere. A college coach would help us look like a refreshed organization. Much moreso than a retread like Karl or even Hollins. I'd take Ollie, Snyder, or Cal over those guys all day.
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Postby karacha on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:07 pm

revgen wrote:I'm not digging the college coach route...


Me neither.
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Postby therealdeal on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:11 pm

karacha wrote:
revgen wrote:I'm not digging the college coach route...


Me neither.

As opposed to what though? I'd rather get a young or newer guy looking to prove something than a guy that we know already. Karl? Eh. Hollins? Maybe. But neither of those are particularly enlightened or inspiring.
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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby Weezy on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:12 pm

I don't like Calipari at all, he comes off as an arrogant jerk, with a short fuse, and kinda sleazy to me. I don't think he's any better than 'Antoni, I think he's just a very good recruiter and his talent gets him far. Ollie, on the other hand, I would give him a shot in a second.
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Re: Who's the next Laker coach? (NEW POLL, VOTE FOR 2!)

Postby karacha on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:35 pm

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revgen wrote:I'm not digging the college coach route...


Me neither.

As opposed to what though? I'd rather get a young or newer guy looking to prove something than a guy that we know already. Karl? Eh. Hollins? Maybe. But neither of those are particularly enlightened or inspiring.


No, they are not. But at least with those guys I know what we're getting. I am not sure if I could stand another coaching failure, and with a college coach... You just never know.

Anyway, it does not matter. We'll give MDA another chance. :man10:
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Postby Doc Brown on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:42 pm

Weezy wrote:I don't like Calipari at all, he comes off as an arrogant jerk, with a short fuse, and kinda sleazy to me. I don't think he's any better than 'Antoni, I think he's just a very good recruiter and his talent gets him far. Ollie, on the other hand, I would give him a shot in a second.


This right here. No to Calipari, I was ticked when I read that news about him coming here.

Give me Ollie over Calipari anyday.
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Postby XXIV on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:44 pm

Calipari's best strength is least important when it comes to NBA coaching. He recruits players based on his ability to get them to the next level and fast, which doesn't apply in the NBA.
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Postby Rooscooter on Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:46 pm

karacha wrote:
revgen wrote:I'm not digging the college coach route...


Me neither.


Not many have made that transition well. You have to pay a lot for them and most likely the term will be longer as well.

I'd find a younger ex-player that has the right stuff and bring him along slowly…. if it doesn't' work out then you haven't spent much and can get a new guy without the chance at public failure.

The coach is the least of our problems. My guess is that no matter who we have as our next coach he will be long gone before we're ready to challenge again. Barring a miracle or three we are a ways away from having the ability to get the players in there much less the coach.
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Postby shaq_hater on Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:47 pm

Maybe it is now time to bring in Rick Adelman since he is on his last week of coaching in MN.
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Postby revgen on Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:24 am

Adelman is a good idea if we're going to keep Pau/Kaman here. He knows how to work with passing/shooting bigs. And he has Kobe's respect too. He also may be able to convince K-Love to come over in 2015.

On the other hand, he'll be 68 years old next season, so he may be nearing retirement.
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Postby LakersN4 on Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:35 am

I don't think Adelman is an option.. The reports that say he will be leaving the T'wolves after this season also say he'll be retiring. I think we missed that boat with the Mike Brown hire.. Which is a shame because Adelman would have done a much better job using Dwight & Pau.
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Postby revgen on Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:54 am

They say that he may retire due to health issues with his wife. I'm not exactly sure what her health issues are, but oftentimes those who have them prefer warmer drier climates like we have in SoCal. Cold Minnesota winters can't be good.
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Postby Lakerjones on Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:44 am

revgen wrote:They say that he may retire due to health issues with his wife. I'm not exactly sure what her health issues are, but oftentimes those who have them prefer warmer drier climates like we have in SoCal. Cold Minnesota winters can't be good.


I've heard the same. Not sure what his wife's health problems are either but he was thinking of quitting a year or so ago for that reason.

I will say that I am still angry that we passed Adelman over for Mike Brown. That was an asinine move. As I and others said many times over, Adelman was the perfect transitionary coach from Phil Jackson. His offense was close enough to the triangle so as not to have much learning curve, especially in a lockout shortened season that we knew was coming. He would have had one of the best passing bigs ever in Pau who he could use in the high post, and he had Bynum for the low post play. On top of it, Ron Artest loved Adelman and played some of his best ball under him at Houston, so he was totally familiar with him and had his respect. Kobe also knew Adelman and he, too, would have thrived in that system working with Pau in the two man game. All they actually needed was a new PG instead of Fisher. And lo and behold we got one that year in Ramon Sessions who certainly could have run that offense.

To me it was the biggest no-brainer I've seen. Before Adelman's name came up, I was fine with Brian Shaw taking over. But Adelman to me was a big upgrade and a more sure thing. We would have seen real basketball. Basketball that made sense.

Instead we got stuck with Mike Brown who was a mess and had no clue with how to make an offense work. Now we are stuck with Mike Antoni who is a mess and has no clue how to make a defense work.

Jim Buss made the call to go with Brown while both Jerry Buss and Mitch have said on record that they liked Adelman. That's one thing that Jim will never live down in my book. I think he really screwed us over as a franchise with his coaching choices.

Would Adelman have taken that team all the way? I don't know. But I think they still had a possibility of contention for a couple years under him. I do think he was the best coach for our personnel by a long shot, especially with the two bigs.

Now, I'm not sure. Adelman sounds like he's about done and I don't really see him as part of a rebuild. Get someone younger at this point.
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Postby 432J on Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:26 pm

if the lakers decide to go the college coach route, i hope to god they go after ollie and not calipari
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:47 pm

The Lakers can say they're going after Ollie all that want but he's not leaving, simply as that.
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Postby revgen on Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:58 am

Lakerjones wrote:Now, I'm not sure. Adelman sounds like he's about done and I don't really see him as part of a rebuild. Get someone younger at this point.


If Adelman wants more than 3 years, then I agree with you.

The only reason to bring him in is if we're still going to try to win it all with Kobe for the next 2 years before rebuilding.
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