Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:36 pm

I'm very optimistic...... and I think by far our largest acquisition is Nash..... Bynum to Howard has been debated ad noisome so I won't go there but I think most realistic comparisons find that they are close with Howard being overall better for this team and I agree for the most part.

Adding a 39 year old Nash is the biggest upgrade we could have made in the offseason by far. The reason his is such an upgrade is two fold..... first the condition of that position in the recent past.... Pretty fair to say we had the worst ball handling guards in the league.... now we have one of the top 2 or 3.... and Second and most important... we have a real distributor on the floor. This hopefully will rid us of the Kobe iso's at the end of the games. Nash gives us a clutch player and "coach" on the floor and another player that can handle the ball that cannot be fouled..... This cannot be understated and this why I'm so optimistic.... we haven't had this type of leadership on the floor in the entire Kobe era..... The only caveat will be health..... Nash and Howard have back issues.... and once you get them they never seem to go away.... so if we are healthy this year we should go a lot deeper than the last two years..... a lot....
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:04 am

I don't mean too sound cocky when I say this, but it's really hard to envision any team beating the Lakers in a seven game series provided their healthy. They've got every thing you need to win a championship. Offensively they're gonna very explosive. Nash will obviously be the playmaker and will make everyone around him better especially Kobe. His life will be so much easier because he can focus on just scoring the basketball. With all the weapons we'll have Dwight can just focus on defense and rebounding the basketball.

Defensively we have the best player in the game in Dwight Howard. He's so mobile he can make up for guys defensive mistakes. He's excellent in pick and roll on both sides of the ball. He made the Magic a very good defensive team even though he wasn't really playing with any good defenders. Now he'll be playing with several guys who are solid defenders. World Peace, Kobe, Jordan Hill, and Devin Ebanks. I would be stunned if we're not the #1 ranked team on both offense and defense.

One thing I forgot to mention in my original post is how Steve Nash excels with pick and roll bigs. You look at what he did in Phoenix with Amare. What he's done with some other guys. You look at Gasol and Howard. From an offensive stand point these are two of the best if not the best pick and roll bigs in the game. They'll practically be spoon fed layups, dunks, and alley oops. Teams are gonna have to double off of World Peace. Either that or get killed by the Lakers deadly pick and roll offense. MWP just has to keep the defense honest and make them pay for not respecting his jumper.
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby LakerFANwithaBRAIN on Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:35 am

[quote He handled it pretty well with Shaq why would it be different now? Big difference now is the relationship between Kobe and Dwight is much better than it was between Shaq and Kobe. ][/quote]

REALLY??

Shaq will DEFINITELY disagree....yeah...they won chips...but they were NEVER on the same page...they won in spite of themselves...they were both too talented...so they won..and they had help...lots of it!!!
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:42 am

LakerFANwithaBRAIN wrote:[quote He handled it pretty well with Shaq why would it be different now? Big difference now is the relationship between Kobe and Dwight is much better than it was between Shaq and Kobe. ]


REALLY??

Shaq will DEFINITELY disagree....yeah...they won chips...but they were NEVER on the same page...they won in spite of themselves...they were both too talented...so they won..and they had help...lots of it!!![/quote]
Of course Shaq will disagree he's a on egomaniac just look at his asinine and immature comments today about Dwight. I don't really give a damn about the whole fighting thing. Bottom-line is they won three championships which is more than most duos can say. They didn't have to like each other just get the job done on the basketball court and winning championships. Obviously they did that.
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:57 am

Injuries, poor minutes management of the BIG 4 and constant change of the rotations are the only factors which could prevent us from winning the title ...

I hope there will be a quick and early evaluation of Mike Brown work this season from the Lakers management .

No more excuses , if he doesn't step it up , just get rid of him ... time isn't on the side of this core ... they're not the Heat or Thunder ... win this season or bust
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby noobiew on Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:06 am

We will be so damm scary good if we were able to stay free of injury all season long, not even chemistry issue could prevent us winning the championship this season, health is really the only concern.
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby JGC on Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:17 am

LakerFANwithaBRAIN wrote:
I think Nash is gonna be a GREAT addition, but ultimately, I still believe we win because of Mamba. I agree with you that getting the ball out of Kobe's hands is vital and running some pick and roll with the bigs with Kobe on the other side of the court will keep him fresh, but again, Kobe is still driving this bus as far as we're gonna go.
I know I am NEW here...but trust me...I am NOT a new Laker fan...

WHY do you still believe that Kobe STILL controls this team? WHY? He proved last season he was not capable of carrying that weight anymore and he CEMENTED that at the Olympics!!!

Kobe has a HUGE role on this team....but running the bus...NO LONGER!! He is STILL the leader..but he MUST learn to step down and step down QUICKLY and gracefully!! No more rants if others don't make wide open shots...no more tantrums!!

IF this team is going to be successful (CHAMPIONSHIP) then Kobe HAS to secede OWNERSHIP...to EVERYONE else (with DH in FOCUS)

Coach K showed him he no LONGER had what it took to dominate...or should I say...Kobe showed Coach K he NO LONGER had what it took to dominate...but whatever it is...those of us who do NOT wear Kobe colored glasses...know reality...Kobe's time as king of the NBA has passed...time to secede and live in reality...and HOPEFULLY win himself a SIXTH!!!

Kobe SAYS that a sixth ring is his priority...lets hope he has the sense to make that happen. ONLY Kobe CAN make that happen...he is an incredibly intellectual individual...here is HOPING!!! :jam2:


Kobe does still control the team. And Kobe IMO, doesn't have to sacrifice ownership at all. All he has to do is trust his teammates. That's it. That's what leaders do. They put their team in a position to win.

There's really only quality that Kobe displayed last year that has to change. And that's giving up on the team concept and trying to put points on the board by himself whenever we got in to funks. That's what he can't do efficiently or effectively over a consistent period of time anymore mainly because he can't get to the rim with regularity.

It's crazy to suggest that Kobe needs to step down as leader. He IS the leader. But being a leader doesn't mean leading the league in usage rate. If anything, he needs to step UP as leader and spend more effort leading the troops than managing games/teammates. That means doing things like figuring out how to get the team to break out of offensive funks when they occur, rather than trying to stop the bleeding on his own. He just needs to focus more on treating the cause and not the symptom.

Having more weapons (especially Nash), in theory, should allow him to do that but he is a stubborn guy so we will just have to wait, see and hope.

I also agree with the other folks that Nash is the piece that's really going to help this team. Just getting Howard would have meant we'd be a little better than last year. Nash should be that difference maker to get us over the hump.
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:51 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Injuries, poor minutes management of the BIG 4 and constant change of the rotations are the only factors which could prevent us from winning the title ...

I hope there will be a quick and early evaluation of Mike Brown work this season from the Lakers management .

No more excuses , if he doesn't step it up , just get rid of him ... time isn't on the side of this core ... they're not the Heat or Thunder ... win this season or bust

I agree. If we stay injury free and still don't win the championship than Mike Brown has to go or at least be demoted to a defensive coordinator role and hire a real head coach. There's no excuse for this team to not win it all. The talent is there and all that talent fits extremely well.
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Lakerjones on Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:41 pm

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:I don't mean too sound cocky when I say this, but it's really hard to envision any team beating the Lakers in a seven game series provided their healthy. They've got every thing you need to win a championship. Offensively they're gonna very explosive. Nash will obviously be the playmaker and will make everyone around him better especially Kobe. His life will be so much easier because he can focus on just scoring the basketball. With all the weapons we'll have Dwight can just focus on defense and rebounding the basketball.

Defensively we have the best player in the game in Dwight Howard. He's so mobile he can make up for guys defensive mistakes. He's excellent in pick and roll on both sides of the ball. He made the Magic a very good defensive team even though he wasn't really playing with any good defenders. Now he'll be playing with several guys who are solid defenders. World Peace, Kobe, Jordan Hill, and Devin Ebanks. I would be stunned if we're not the #1 ranked team on both offense and defense.

One thing I forgot to mention in my original post is how Steve Nash excels with pick and roll bigs. You look at what he did in Phoenix with Amare. What he's done with some other guys. You look at Gasol and Howard. From an offensive stand point these are two of the best if not the best pick and roll bigs in the game. They'll practically be spoon fed layups, dunks, and alley oops. Teams are gonna have to double off of World Peace. Either that or get killed by the Lakers deadly pick and roll offense. MWP just has to keep the defense honest and make them pay for not respecting his jumper.


^^ I agree pretty much 100% with this post Texas Lakers Fan. Health will be the biggest concern for the year. The personnel is one of the most phenomenal I've ever seen, especially that starting five. From all indications they should be a superb fit with one another, too. Incredibly complimentary players - Howard and Nash, Nash and Pau, Pau and Howard, Kobe with all three, and Ron there to focus on stopping the elite wing players such as Durant and Lebron. I don't think we could have dreamed up a better starting 5.

Along with the addition of Nash who just improves everything right off the bat, to me the Howard acquisition is just as important for us winning a championship. While I agree the level of disparity between Bynum and Howard is debatable at this point, the two are still very different stylistically. It's precisely the style of play and focus that make Howard SO much better for this team. First, he's a dominant pick and roll player on both sides of the ball. On offense, pairing him with the supreme pick and roll PG in Nash is just genius. I dare any team to try and stop that play. I don't know what they are going to do, but that's going to be a daunting task. Those two are seemingly made to play together.

Bynum on the other hand excels in the post and while Nash can feed the post as well as anyone who's played, to make him a dump it in PG takes away from his creativity and strengths on the court. The P and R should be his bread and butter, and his ability to probe and Howard's ability to cut and be active are just a perfect match. The same goes for Nash and Gasol. Plus Gasol has the added ability to pick and pop well, and he can also survey the floor and hit cutters or Howard down low. It's just tantalizing to think of these two bigs paired up with Nash. Unreal.

Then on the defensive end Howard's ability and willingness to cover the pick and roll and to help is just what we need. Bynum played his best ball for us when he was playing like Dwight Howard. But he just didn't focus enough on the defensive end. Now we HAVE Dwight Howard, and he is still mostly concerned with the defensive end of the floor and rebounding. It's a perfect fit for this team, especially as Nash is going to need that help badly. Bynum has been totally capable of Howard-like defense, but just not committed to it. Now we get the consistency we've always wanted. It's huge. Just as huge as what Nash brings on the offensive end.

Lastly, we have now two other head coaches who have bolstered the staff. That was my biggest concern going forward with Nash and Howard on board. Could this coach win it all? Well, with Eddie Jordan coaching the offense and Bernie Bickerstaff, one of Brown's old mentors, overseeing the operation, I think we're going to have a much better situation here.
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby therealdeal on Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:18 pm

Lakerjones wrote:Bynum played his best ball for us when he was playing like Dwight Howard. But he just didn't focus enough on the defensive end. Now we HAVE Dwight Howard,


This might be the single best statement I've ever read on Bynum vs. Howard for this Laker team.
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Lakerjones on Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:17 am

therealdeal wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:Bynum played his best ball for us when he was playing like Dwight Howard. But he just didn't focus enough on the defensive end. Now we HAVE Dwight Howard,


This might be the single best statement I've ever read on Bynum vs. Howard for this Laker team.


Thanks realdeal! :jam2:
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Phil XI on Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:23 pm

No whammy
Get 17!!
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Re: Why I Believe The Lakers Will Win The Championship

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:33 pm

Phil XI wrote:No whammy

Huh lol?
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