Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Scnottaken on Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:18 am

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Rooscooter wrote:He's got upside and talent but after this many chances he's also never going to realize his potential. He's still the same punk that locked himself in the bathroom the night before the draft.

I think you're underestimating the impact that playing with guys like Kobe, Nash, & even Pau could have on Beas. Not to mention playing for the Lakers. With Rambis as an assistant, who he had his best season with.. & a system that he fits like a glove.. With Phil having a seemingly more active role, that's 1 more voice that any player in this league is going to respect. I don't think Beasley is any worse than LO was & we were able to keep him stable for a long stretch.. I think Beas would play the same role for us, he'd be a great 6th man.. If we add Beasley, I'll go out on a limb & say we have a legit chance at making it out of the first round.


Adding a guy with partying issues to LA is something that is escaping you. Phoenix is a Monistary compared to LA.

I also think you are way over valuing the LA mystque and teammates. Artest was basically the same and Phil did what for Rodman and JR Rider? This same environment didn't change Howard and fostered Bynum's antics....

This kid has shown that the game is there to fund his lifestyle. Being in Phoenix the last year and hearing the stories about him tells me he's not going to change.

To be fair to Bynum, even his worst year in LA is a dream compared to what he's done since he's left. Whether that's due to extended time away from the game or what, that's yet to be seen, but his attitude has at least seemed to get worse since leaving.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:19 am

^^I agree somewhat on Bynum. I think he was not treated in the same manner as the other players for whatever reason by Phil and the front office. He has always had an entitlement attitude but so do most kids that are given 5 million a year at age 17. My point is that it didn't magically disappear because he played with Kobe and was coached by Phil.....

Change is difficult..... very difficult and to whimsically believe that past behaviors are the product of poor teammates and a less than spectacular city seem a little shallow to me.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:05 am

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Rooscooter wrote:He's got upside and talent but after this many chances he's also never going to realize his potential. He's still the same punk that locked himself in the bathroom the night before the draft.

I think you're underestimating the impact that playing with guys like Kobe, Nash, & even Pau could have on Beas. Not to mention playing for the Lakers. With Rambis as an assistant, who he had his best season with.. & a system that he fits like a glove.. With Phil having a seemingly more active role, that's 1 more voice that any player in this league is going to respect. I don't think Beasley is any worse than LO was & we were able to keep him stable for a long stretch.. I think Beas would play the same role for us, he'd be a great 6th man.. If we add Beasley, I'll go out on a limb & say we have a legit chance at making it out of the first round.


Adding a guy with partying issues to LA is something that is escaping you. Phoenix is a Monistary compared to LA.

I also think you are way over valuing the LA mystque and teammates. Artest was basically the same and Phil did what for Rodman and JR Rider? This same environment didn't change Howard and fostered Bynum's antics....

This kid has shown that the game is there to fund his lifestyle. Being in Phoenix the last year and hearing the stories about him tells me he's not going to change.

Yeah I considered LA being a much better party town, but Beasleys thing is smoking weed.. In LA his "problem" goes away as soon as he gets a medical card.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:18 am

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Rooscooter wrote:He's got upside and talent but after this many chances he's also never going to realize his potential. He's still the same punk that locked himself in the bathroom the night before the draft.

I think you're underestimating the impact that playing with guys like Kobe, Nash, & even Pau could have on Beas. Not to mention playing for the Lakers. With Rambis as an assistant, who he had his best season with.. & a system that he fits like a glove.. With Phil having a seemingly more active role, that's 1 more voice that any player in this league is going to respect. I don't think Beasley is any worse than LO was & we were able to keep him stable for a long stretch.. I think Beas would play the same role for us, he'd be a great 6th man.. If we add Beasley, I'll go out on a limb & say we have a legit chance at making it out of the first round.


Adding a guy with partying issues to LA is something that is escaping you. Phoenix is a Monistary compared to LA.

I also think you are way over valuing the LA mystque and teammates. Artest was basically the same and Phil did what for Rodman and JR Rider? This same environment didn't change Howard and fostered Bynum's antics....

This kid has shown that the game is there to fund his lifestyle. Being in Phoenix the last year and hearing the stories about him tells me he's not going to change.

Yeah I considered LA being a much better party town, but Beasleys thing is smoking weed.. In LA his "problem" goes away as soon as he gets a medical card.


I think you are not seeing the real problem here...... his problem with the Law goes away but the problem with having a player that had rather party than improve doesn't.... in fact it's now legally enhanced.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:42 am

Rooscooter wrote:
lakersin4 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
lakersin4 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:He's got upside and talent but after this many chances he's also never going to realize his potential. He's still the same punk that locked himself in the bathroom the night before the draft.

I think you're underestimating the impact that playing with guys like Kobe, Nash, & even Pau could have on Beas. Not to mention playing for the Lakers. With Rambis as an assistant, who he had his best season with.. & a system that he fits like a glove.. With Phil having a seemingly more active role, that's 1 more voice that any player in this league is going to respect. I don't think Beasley is any worse than LO was & we were able to keep him stable for a long stretch.. I think Beas would play the same role for us, he'd be a great 6th man.. If we add Beasley, I'll go out on a limb & say we have a legit chance at making it out of the first round.


Adding a guy with partying issues to LA is something that is escaping you. Phoenix is a Monistary compared to LA.

I also think you are way over valuing the LA mystque and teammates. Artest was basically the same and Phil did what for Rodman and JR Rider? This same environment didn't change Howard and fostered Bynum's antics....

This kid has shown that the game is there to fund his lifestyle. Being in Phoenix the last year and hearing the stories about him tells me he's not going to change.

Yeah I considered LA being a much better party town, but Beasleys thing is smoking weed.. In LA his "problem" goes away as soon as he gets a medical card.


I think you are not seeing the real problem here...... his problem with the Law goes away but the problem with having a player that had rather party than improve doesn't.... in fact it's now legally enhanced.

Didn't they do a survey that showed over half the players in the league smoke weed? Beasley is obviously an extreme case because he can't stay out of trouble, but I have no problem with players wanting to party.. That's one of the points of getting rich is to enjoy the lifestyle.. There's many stories about players as great as MJ partying until 7AM before playoff, even finals games.. Lamar partied hard the whole time he was here, but still played a big role in 3 trips to the finals.. Nothing I've heard about Beasley justifies the way he's being crucified.. He's 24 years old & already has a 19 PPG season under his belt.. He's too young to be considered a lost cause, he has plenty of time to turn it around & have a long, productive NBA career.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby trodgers on Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:54 pm

Adding Beasley couldn't hurt morale...

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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby jlkr on Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:04 pm

that guy next to Beasley: the expression in his eyes is priceless! :man10:
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby lakersin4 on Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:35 pm

trodgers wrote:Adding Beasley couldn't hurt morale...

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He can keep Pau's knees loose on the sidelines :man9:
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Cleansed on Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:05 pm

trodgers wrote:Adding Beasley couldn't hurt morale...

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:man10: That is GOLD! The subtle "W..T..F?" expression on the players face next to him is priceless.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:33 pm

trodgers wrote:Adding Beasley couldn't hurt morale...

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Thought he was sitting next to Jason Collins I see.......
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby JSM on Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:39 pm

trodgers wrote:Adding Beasley couldn't hurt morale...

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That perfectly captures his IQ...how does it even take you that long to realize you're not rubbing your own knee? He got a full hand rotation in before the lightbulb went off in his head.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Weezy on Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:02 pm

I mean is he just dumb, is it an honest mistake, is it the drugs, a combination? How do you not know you're not running your own knee? :man10:
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby lotus on Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:23 pm

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lotus wrote:Why would the Lakers want a drug addict on the team. Makes no sense.

He's the most talented player available.. He put up 19 PPG & shot 36% from 3 on 164 attempts in Min under Rambis.. He has his demons, sure.. But it's the best high risk/high reward move we could possibly make.. & in a season where our ceiling is probably a 1st round loss, this is the type of gamble you take.. There's nobody on the market that has had an NBA season where they played at a level that Beasley did in 10/11 & he's had a couple good seasons off the bench as the main option when the real #1 is sitting. He's gotten more dependent on the 3 ball since his minutes started being limited after his 10-11 season, jacking up 144 in just 20.7 MPG, which probably accounts for most of his drop in efficiency.. With Jordan Hill as our only proven NBA PF (since Pau is starting at C) & the possibility that Kobe might have to be limited significantly this season, I don't see why Beas couldn't earn more minutes on this squad than he has the last 2 seasons.. Nick Young has the same story statistically, putting up 17 PPG & then having his minutes cut for a few seasons.. He doesn't have the off the court issues that Beasley has but I think it'd be foolish to pass on a player that has the potential to be our 6th man & 3rd/4th option offensively.. Beasley doesn't have all the tools to be the perfect D'antoni stretch 4 (Shawn Marion) but he has many of the offensive tools, & I hope he gets a chance to show it.

So decent character is not in your equation. If you were talking about the bucks or raptors, then go for it. But I think the Lakers should do better than that. It's not like the guy has an attitude or motivation problem like JR Rider or L.O. when we first signed them. Those are situations you take a chance and hope your franchise and hall of fame players can change them. Being a big time weed head is not one of those situations that you invite into the premiere franchise.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby GoldenKnight on Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:53 am

I wouldn't mind the Lakers taking him to give him a shot at redeeming himself. If he works play him if he doesn't then don't. Won't pick up anyone else with more talent on a wasted season anyway.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby nthydro on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:01 am

Well what's the worst that can happen if we signed him?
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby khmrP on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:06 am

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so you'll enjoying seeing MORE bricks? Ron actually out shot in that department :man10:
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby khmrP on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:07 am

nthydro wrote:Well what's the worst that can happen if we signed him?


I'm sure Minn/Pho fans/mgmt. all said the same thing.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby nthydro on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:16 am

khmrP wrote:
nthydro wrote:Well what's the worst that can happen if we signed him?


I'm sure Minn/Pho fans/mgmt. all said the same thing.


Yeah sure it would be a bad idea if we were investing a lot of time or money into him but we're not.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby khmrP on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:19 am

nthydro wrote:
khmrP wrote:
nthydro wrote:Well what's the worst that can happen if we signed him?


I'm sure Minn/Pho fans/mgmt. all said the same thing.


Yeah sure it would be a bad idea if we were investing a lot of time or money into him but we're not.


you guys are expecting him to be a key guy off the bench, doesn't that require time/effort? Everybody thought Minn got a steal for him when all they did was give up 2 2nd rd picks.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby nthydro on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:25 am

khmrP wrote:
nthydro wrote:
khmrP wrote:
nthydro wrote:Well what's the worst that can happen if we signed him?


I'm sure Minn/Pho fans/mgmt. all said the same thing.


Yeah sure it would be a bad idea if we were investing a lot of time or money into him but we're not.


you guys are expecting him to be a key guy off the bench, doesn't that require time/effort? Everybody thought Minn got a steal for him when all they did was give up 2 2nd rd picks.


You can say the same thing about Johnson and Young. We are a taking a gamble on them too with 1 year deals.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby khmrP on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:28 am

nthydro wrote:You can say the same thing about Johnson and Young. We are a taking a gamble on them too with 1 year deals.


gambling on talent is fine but thats not the case here with Beasly who apparently cannot stop himself even with millions of dollars on the line.
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Barnstable on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:34 am

trodgers wrote:Adding Beasley couldn't hurt morale...

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Haaaaaaa!!!!

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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:06 pm

“@WojYahooNBA: The Miami Heat have reached agreement with free agent forward Michael Beasley to join training camp, source tells Yahoo Sports.”


crap! if they sign him they're gonna be deadly. his attitude on the court matches what the heat do with their bench. he'll get signed and be a real handful for any team off the bench. they need a matchup with the pacers and hell do perfectly with them. I hate the heat
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Re: Will the Lakers be in the Michael Beasley sweepstakes?

Postby therealdeal on Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:27 pm

:man3:

The guy is so bad he hasn't even been given a legitimate contract. It's a camp invite.
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