WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:12 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:If Nash played with Shaq/Kobe/Gasol during his prime years he would also be a instrumental to the Championships but he played with overrated star players on his team.

i don't really care for these comparisons of nash to fisher and i think that whole exercise is misguided.

my main point is that any laker fan who hates derek fisher and will not acknowledge the value he brought to the organization is no laker fan in my eyes.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:14 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:
lakersyunowin wrote:fish i miss the character and heart of this man. it's too bad that age and decline caught up to him.


Nash brings, exactly what Fisher bought with 10x the better results.

Fisher was a chucker and couldn't stop missing lay-ups.

:freak2:

Gross, gross, disgusting over simplification of a man's career. Fisher brought leadership, heart, intensity, and presence to the team. He bridged the gap between Kobe and the rest of the squad. He showed clutch ability basically every season he was here and is almost single handedly responsible for winning a game IN Boston in the FInals.

The only kind of person who would define Fisher as the above is someone who either doesn't know basketball, or didn't watch the Lakers before 2011.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:16 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Ice-Fire wrote:
lakersyunowin wrote:fish i miss the character and heart of this man. it's too bad that age and decline caught up to him.


Nash brings, exactly what Fisher bought with 10x the better results.

Fisher was a chucker and couldn't stop missing lay-ups.

:freak2:

Gross, gross, disgusting over simplification of a man's career. Fisher brought leadership, heart, intensity, and presence to the team. He bridged the gap between Kobe and the rest of the squad. He showed clutch ability basically every season he was here and is almost single handedly responsible for winning a game IN Boston in the FInals.

The only kind of person who would define Fisher as the above is someone who either doesn't know basketball, or didn't watch the Lakers before 2011.

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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby Juronimo on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:21 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Ice-Fire wrote:
lakersyunowin wrote:fish i miss the character and heart of this man. it's too bad that age and decline caught up to him.


Nash brings, exactly what Fisher bought with 10x the better results.

Fisher was a chucker and couldn't stop missing lay-ups.

:freak2:

Gross, gross, disgusting over simplification of a man's career. Fisher brought leadership, heart, intensity, and presence to the team. He bridged the gap between Kobe and the rest of the squad. He showed clutch ability basically every season he was here and is almost single handedly responsible for winning a game IN Boston in the FInals.

The only kind of person who would define Fisher as the above is someone who either doesn't know basketball, or didn't watch the Lakers before 2011.


:jam2:

Fisher was that dude. He was the heart and soul of our 2 most recent championship squads.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby gcclaker on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:27 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:
lakersyunowin wrote:fish i miss the character and heart of this man. it's too bad that age and decline caught up to him.

Nash brings, exactly what Fisher bought with 10x the better results.

Fisher was a chucker and couldn't stop missing lay-ups.

With all due respect to Nash, Fisher chucked enough that hit and really counted during the biggest possesions too in franchise history.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:53 pm

Not to mention his toughness. Anyone remember the Scola incident in 2009 playoffs?

Dude was also BOMB at taking charges.

Things aren't always explained on stat sheets. Can't believe I'm actually having to defend Fisher on here.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby JLaker17 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:59 pm

Fisher was all heart and toughness and showed up big for us when we needed, won't bash him.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby cthroatgtr on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:43 pm

Wow went away for a bit and I see my comment got some reactions. What I meant is that we have turned Nash into Fisher in a lot of ways. It also tells me that Nash being the primary facilitator wasn't working. The team gave up a lot for what is basically a spot up shooter. In the grand scheme of things that deal isn't looking so good. We have two guys being what they are not and I am not sure they can keep it up. Nash is a facilitator first and Kobe is a scorer first and they have reverted roles. Not that I am shocked as teams have had Nash under control all year.

Regarding Fish & Nash comparison...I meant their roles on the team. But seriously do not question Fisher's importance over 5 championships. In the 2001 run he was on fire and in his early years was a bulldog on defense. Extremely clutch in most of them. Later in his career his lack of foot speed and limited size were exposed but even then he was still tough 1 on 1 defender. And we know his contributions in the locker room as well.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:58 pm

I think people are having more problems with someone asserting that Fisher was just a chucker.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby Ice-Fire on Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:33 pm

I have no problem with Fisher and think he deserves credit for hitting big shots, but I still can't stand him.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:59 pm

back to our old ways of absolute garbage in about 9 minutes flat.

too many TO's, dwight hurt, MWP sucking like a hoover
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby GoldenChocobo on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:02 pm

Metta killed the momentum.

And we managed to let Beasley go off.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby khmrP on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:02 pm

these guys are HOPELESS..... :man6:
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby noobiew on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:03 pm

Can't believe we lose to his garbage Phoenix Suns team !!! :bang: :bang: :bang:

Easily the worst team in the western conference ! :disagree:
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:03 pm

we lost to the now 16-30 suns. season is over.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby venky on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:03 pm

Last 3 games were fools gold.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby LooN3y on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:04 pm

Story of our season: false hopes
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby borri on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:04 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:we lost to the now 16-30 suns. season is over.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby Weezy on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:04 pm

I haven't felt this down since we lost the Celtics in '08, I'm just crushed, faith in the team is shaken, missing the playoffs feels real. Even if we go 5-2 on this road trip we're still only 25-27, still a lot of work to do, now we have to win 5 of the next 6 to do that. We gave a game away, we suck on the road, crappy road team returned, crappy Pau returned, guys were not rewarding the ball movement with makes (MWP), damn.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:05 pm

Team is done and I have a feeling so is Dwight. That injury just finished the season

Hilarious how with 9 minutes left we were sure the team had changed and about 20 minutes later the season is over

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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby halekulani on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:05 pm

lakers r about as good as the wiz on the road
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby bumrusherer on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:05 pm

That was one of the more disappointing games this year because it showed that we really havent learned anything.

When the going go tough, road environment...ball stopped moving quickly. Defensive rotations became slow and open shots were plenty.

Cant lose games against teams like PHX if you have dug a hole that we have dug for ourselves.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby halekulani on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:06 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:we lost to the now 16-30 suns. season is over.

uh
before the game the lakers still needed to go 28-9 with 20 of those games on the road

it wasn't possible to begin with
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby GNC on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:06 pm

Smfh :disagree:
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby The Rock on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:06 pm

We let them shoot 69% in the 4th. UGH effin disgusting loss. F man
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