WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:42 pm

nash sucked and was rusty and should have come off the bench (but of course not, d'antoni's golden boy)
pau being a wuss the entire first half
meeks sucked
morris sucked
clark sucked
no glock

offense was non-existent for much of the game. we let a stealable game slip through our fingers. what a stinker.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:55 pm

guys have to step up on O and not be afraid. defense wasnt actually bad. held spurs under 100. made star starters shoot under 50%. rebounded well. it was just what I thought offensive execution that cost us the game. just couldn't get shots to fall and kept turning it over!

refs really helped spurs in the 3rd I thought but the spurs just beat us in the 4th on both ends. I think we're capable of stealing one of these games if we execute our offense. Jamison and Clark have to step up and contribute on that end. we will never win a game if they don't. Meeks too.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:55 pm

No more Meeks/Morris the rest of the series please.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:56 pm

Glock? need offense. Meeks sprained ankle. why not?

Jamison and Clark need more mins and step up. metta too
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Finwë on Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:58 pm

Since Kobe went down (and with him, aproximately 33% of our offensive production), and for the first time this season, it's about offense.
We're getting enough stops and forcing misses on D (for the most part), but it just isn't enough if we keep missing WIDE open shots AND turning the ball over.

Spurs will simply pack it in on our post ups and force our inconsistent shooters to beat them with jumpers..
Pau missed WAY too many wide open Js, his jump shooting was just not good enough, and the same can be said for so many of our guys.
Meeks and Jamison, aka our bench scorers, gave us nothing. Nash isn't close to 100%, we can't expect Blake to score over 20 again, Dwight tends to get stripped, will probably be fouled on the catch and he'll miss 50% of his FTs..

For the most part of the game we forced the Spurs to below 40% shooting. Problem was, we were shooting below 40% ourselves (and couldn't make 3s at all), not to mention we had twice as many turnovers as they did.
THAT needs to change, or we're done in 4-5.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:01 pm

nash comes back and the offense gets WORSE. go figure.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby WilliamHaven on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:02 pm

turnovers and a few timely shots.....not too bad for game 1 on the road. but a loss is a loss
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Weezy on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:05 pm

Why exactly did we sign Glock again? Not that he's gonna save us, but at least he has one skill, shooting. Complaints, eh, Pau was inconsistent again, Dwight was held in check by an ancient Duncan because Duncan is smart and knows the fundamentals, Nash was horrible, Jamison couldn't hit, Meeks was Meeks.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby borri on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:06 pm

Not that pissed we lost. But damn, this one was ripe for the picking.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:06 pm

Meh it wasn't a bad effort from our guys, I expect a better effort and more shots falling next game.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:06 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:nash comes back and the offense gets WORSE. go figure.


It was a road game in the playoffs against an elite defensive team, it really has more to do with our role players not showing up at all which wasn't really surprising.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:06 pm

Everybody not named Blake and D12 was an embarassment ...and get some freaking bench players
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby borri on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:09 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:Everybody not named Blake and D12 was an embarassment ...and get some freaking bench players


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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Ras Algethi on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:09 pm

We can't score without Kobe, really comes down to that. The defense and rebounding were fine.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Finwë on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:15 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:nash comes back and the offense gets WORSE. go figure.

SAS was probably watching the Houston game and noticed that you can really hurt our offense by loading up on the paint to avoid succesful post ups and letting us try to beat them with 3s.
We didn't make shots, that wasn't Nash's fault (other than his own misses). 3/15 from 3...
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby borri on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:17 pm

Finwë wrote:
lakersyunowin wrote:nash comes back and the offense gets WORSE. go figure.

SAS was probably watching the Houston game and noticed that you can really hurt our offense by loading up on the paint to avoid succesful post ups and letting us try to beat them with 3s.
We didn't make shots, that wasn't Nash's fault (other than his own misses). 3/15 from 3...


Shoot, I am not a coach by any means, and I figured that out LAST year.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Forward Three on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:18 pm

Ras Algethi wrote:We can't score without Kobe, really comes down to that. The defense and rebounding were fine.


Yup. This game had all of the tell-tale signs of a team that is doing a lot of things right, putting in solid work, having energy and effort but not being able to put points on the board just the same. But even with Kobe (assuming a solid Playoffs type of Kobe scoring 30+) it's still so frustrating to see Gasol missing so many easy shots and Nash as well. Just felt like offensively on the Lakers no one had any spark at all.

And honestly, the Spurs had plenty of stretches of pretty crappy play as well, but the Lakers couldn't make the most of those opportunities to bridge the gap. I think it's going to be 2-0 Spurs returning to LA.


Gasol played the type of game that got him branded Gasoft. He was great with his passing, solid with his rebounding, but offensively he just didn't seem to want to go AFTER it at all.


I feel like this has been a WMC about the Lakers for the past 5 seasons but what is it with our team and being terrible at making jump shots? I understand jump shots from the mid-range are considered a pretty bad shot to take most of the time, but when left wide open I feel like most teams have at least 2 or 3 players who aren't their stars who can and will reliably hit open Js when needed. With the Lakers, and not just this season, it's been like this through many rosters, they just never seem to have that in their depth chart. And obviously when you have a superior presence inside you don't need it to win but handing a team like that to a guy like D'antoni?

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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby therealdeal on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:21 pm

Ras Algethi wrote:We can't score without Kobe, really comes down to that. The defense and rebounding were fine.

I would say good, great even, on the boards. We just can't score any points...
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Mr_Hollywood_Line on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:22 pm

1) No reliable or consistent outside shooting. :bang:

2) A moron for a coach. :bang:
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Finwë on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:23 pm

borri wrote:
Finwë wrote:
lakersyunowin wrote:nash comes back and the offense gets WORSE. go figure.

SAS was probably watching the Houston game and noticed that you can really hurt our offense by loading up on the paint to avoid succesful post ups and letting us try to beat them with 3s.
We didn't make shots, that wasn't Nash's fault (other than his own misses). 3/15 from 3...


Shoot, I am not a coach by any means, and I figured that out LAST year.

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We all knew this obviously, but we had Kobe who would've taken advantage of such D, finding it easy to get good looks or penetrate.. Now that we don't, opponents are taking it even further
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Forward Three on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:26 pm

Why is it that it is just accepted wisdom that role players always play better at home and poorly away? I can understand that maybe happening for rookies but it just doesn't make sense for it to happen to experienced players, yet, across the league it's just something we see time and time again, role players are more inconsistent and more 'out of their element' when on the road, except for the very best of them on the best teams.

Or maybe it's just another one of those weird Lakers problems...
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Ras Algethi on Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:30 pm

Forward Three wrote:Why is it that it is just accepted wisdom that role players always play better at home and poorly away? I can understand that maybe happening for rookies but it just doesn't make sense for it to happen to experienced players, yet, across the league it's just something we see time and time again, role players are more inconsistent and more 'out of their element' when on the road, except for the very best of them on the best teams.

Or maybe it's just another one of those weird Lakers problems...


Seems to be like this for all role players. Likely a mental thing. At home they just respond better to a favorable crowd. They can't handle the adversity of a rival crowd. While some stars, like Kobe, relish it.
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:59 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:nash comes back and the offense gets WORSE. go figure.


Someone somewhere said this may happen....

We've missed a cutthroat scorer for years now... Kobe has been able to cover for the others on the team but now that he's not there it's glaring. Nash isn't that kind of player.... never has been. His most successful run in this league was with a team build around his talents and it still came up short.... way short if you look at their regular season records.

Add to this that he's coming back from a hamstring injury and he's even healthy he's a shell of his prime self....

Pau is another player just like him except he's got the ability to be that cutthroat scorer but refuses to do it in favor of passing to the 3 point line for failed attempt after failed attempt....
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Nashty Gal on Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:24 pm

sadly, after the 2nd half the season our goal was to make the playoffs. we did...whatever happens now i'm not going to pull my hair out over. but i do feel we will win the next game
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Re: WMC 12/13: #7 achieved for Kobe! (16 wins)

Postby Scnottaken on Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:40 pm

My WMC is a thing that's annoyed me endlessly: The lakers seem to have a very hard time hitting WIDE OPEN shots, meanwhile you leave ANY OTHER PLAYER on any team even slightly open, and he hits the shot 10/10 times. I think that if almost any other team had played the way we did, they would have won. Ball movement didn't seem to be the issue, at least not to me.
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