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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby Lakeshow24 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:12 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
abeer3 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Not sure it's a "Statement Game"..... it seems we'd have to be "relevant" to OKC for it to me anything significant from their standpoint.

From our vantage point it's sure nice to see some "team" with our team....


i'm not mr. sunshine and daisies (i'm pretty sure the lakers are missing the playoffs), but the lakers are most definitely still on everyone's--including okc's--radar. they wanted this game; you could see it.


Maybe I wasn't expansive enough.... for OKC losing the game had little significance. No tie breakers were involved.... playoff seeding isn't really involved and other than "grudge factor" it wasn't that meaningful to them. For us it's a little bit different. We hadn't beaten a decent team let alone a good one for a while so if beating a top team is a "statement" then I guess it could be seen that way.

For this group I hope that isn't their mentality however..... they should be thinking it was business as usual to beat OKC on your home floor..... 100M and 5 All stars shouldn't be making "Statement Wins" in January....


6 all stars if you count the two that Jamison was part of... wow is this team really underachieving... :bang:
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:24 pm

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Maybe I wasn't expansive enough.... for OKC losing the game had little significance. No tie breakers were involved.... playoff seeding isn't really involved and other than "grudge factor" it wasn't that meaningful to them. For us it's a little bit different. We hadn't beaten a decent team let alone a good one for a while so if beating a top team is a "statement" then I guess it could be seen that way.

For this group I hope that isn't their mentality however..... they should be thinking it was business as usual to beat OKC on your home floor..... 100M and 5 All stars shouldn't be making "Statement Wins" in January....


eh, i guess. i think the heart of your comments was about motivation, and i think okc was plenty motivated for this game. kobe still has a vendetta for phx, for pete's sake.

that was a high quality win against a team that was, imo, as motivated as the lakers.

the issue is whether the lakers can repeat that performance another 30 times. this i doubt.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby Ice-Fire on Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:40 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:It's a slim shot since we don't know if the team is for real (they've teased us far too often this season to make too much of these last two games), but if they go something like 8-2 over the next 10 games there is a good chance they will be tied with Houston in the loss column.


That is why the game against the Pelicans has a good chance of being a big let-down. in fact it's very likely that the Lakers will have a hangover from there much needed win against a top-dog that they come out so sluggish that they will be down by more then 16 points, I have seen that script before many many times.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby gcclaker on Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:50 pm

abeer3 wrote:
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Maybe I wasn't expansive enough.... for OKC losing the game had little significance. No tie breakers were involved.... playoff seeding isn't really involved and other than "grudge factor" it wasn't that meaningful to them. For us it's a little bit different. We hadn't beaten a decent team let alone a good one for a while so if beating a top team is a "statement" then I guess it could be seen that way.

For this group I hope that isn't their mentality however..... they should be thinking it was business as usual to beat OKC on your home floor..... 100M and 5 All stars shouldn't be making "Statement Wins" in January....

eh, i guess. i think the heart of your comments was about motivation, and i think okc was plenty motivated for this game. kobe still has a vendetta for phx, for pete's sake.

that was a high quality win against a team that was, imo, as motivated as the lakers.

the issue is whether the lakers can repeat that performance another 30 times. this i doubt.

From accounts, OKC was also intent on not being used as a springboard for the Lakers to come together. They wanted to keep us down.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby Ice-Fire on Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:00 pm

gcclaker wrote:From accounts, OKC was also intent on not being used as a springboard for the Lakers to come together. They wanted to keep us down.


The Thunder are good enough not to care about other teams coming together. this was just another game for them, it was the Lakers who used the game as a measure stick.... but to me, it's absurd to calculate this game as a off-set for a amazing run, the Hawks/Wizards/Celtics/Wolves/ also win against the Thunder and those teams still suck.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:10 pm

Anyone watching the game last night could see they wanted this win. They've wanted to beat the Lakers every game since they were bounced from the playoffs.

The Thunder wanted this game badly.

Did they want it AS BADLY? Of course not, that's why they lost.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:21 pm

therealdeal wrote:Anyone watching the game last night could see they wanted this win. They've wanted to beat the Lakers every game since they were bounced from the playoffs.

The Thunder wanted this game badly.

Did they want it AS BADLY? Of course not, that's why they lost.


actually I think they did want it AS BADLY. Think about this, OKC is tops in the West and in the end will probably finish #1 or #2 in the West. The Lakers, when playing well, are a top 4 team in the league who will now be fighting for a #6-8 spot in the playoffs. OKC does not want any part of LA, let alone a hot LA, team as the #8 seed in the playoffs. A win, especially a convincing one, would of kept all the rumblings and self-doubt in LA. Now, the talk is about how LA very well may have turned the corner. I really think they wanted to be the last slit of the knife on the Lakers throats but instead they stitched a lot of wounds on this LA team. Fear is seeping into the West right now.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby venky on Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:08 pm

I didn't read the past couple of pages so I'm not sure if I'm the only one that's going to be "that guy," but here we go.

I'm still a little unsure if we're turning a corner and I'm especially unsure if we can beat OKC in the playoffs. Westbrook was off. Now you can give some credit to Kobe and his good defense, but he also missed some open shots.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:21 pm

venky wrote:I'm still a little unsure if we're turning a corner and I'm especially unsure if we can beat OKC in the playoffs. Westbrook was off. Now you can give some credit to Kobe and his good defense, but he also missed some open shots.

You are correct. However, we're not going to miss 10 FTs every game or have Dwight in single digits. We won by 9, could've easily been 15.

Yes, we're speaking in hypothetical terms. No I'm not stating we will win. Just saying it's up in the air, it's possible.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby charvin on Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:54 pm

Also not going to have Porkins the offensively challenged going 5-for-6 every single game.

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venky wrote:I'm still a little unsure if we're turning a corner and I'm especially unsure if we can beat OKC in the playoffs. Westbrook was off. Now you can give some credit to Kobe and his good defense, but he also missed some open shots.

You are correct. However, we're not going to miss 10 FTs every game or have Dwight in single digits. We won by 9, could've easily been 15.

Yes, we're speaking in hypothetical terms. No I'm not stating we will win. Just saying it's up in the air, it's possible.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby DanielBeltz24 on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:01 pm

Houston is going to win tonight unfortunately.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:06 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Anyone watching the game last night could see they wanted this win. They've wanted to beat the Lakers every game since they were bounced from the playoffs.

The Thunder wanted this game badly.

Did they want it AS BADLY? Of course not, that's why they lost.


I actually I think they did want it AS BADLY. Think about this, OKC is tops in the West and in the end will probably finish #1 or #2 in the West. The Lakers, when playing well, are a top 4 team in the league who will now be fighting for a #6-8 spot in the playoffs. OKC does not want any part of LA, let alone a hot LA, team as the #8 seed in the playoffs. A win, especially a convincing one, would of kept all the rumblings and self-doubt in LA. Now, the talk is about how LA very well may have turned the corner. I really think they wanted to be the last slit of the knife on the Lakers throats but instead they stitched a lot of wounds on this LA team. Fear is seeping into the West right now.

Oh I'm sure they wanted it. I'm sure they knew everything you're saying, but what I'm saying is that they weren't ready for what we were: starving. We wanted this so much more. Just watching the game again I'm seeing everyone on our team working and focused and going nuts. Their team is frustrated and can't figure it out why we're killing em.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby karacha on Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:47 pm

DanielBeltz24 wrote:Houston is going to win tonight unfortunately.


Well, as long as some teams above us (not #1-#5, because we can't catch those) are losing games, it's all good.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby The Rock on Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:02 pm

Going to the game tonight, I'll bring us a win :jam2:
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby karacha on Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:09 pm

^

You better. :man9:
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby Ice-Fire on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:37 pm

venky wrote:Now you can give some credit to Kobe and his good defense, but he also missed some open shots.


Actually, he did not miss open shots, "HE MISSED STUPID SHOTS" if anyone was actually watching the game you would have known that Westbrook was trying to ball-hog and got his garbage rebounds and his assists ... and that's that.

in reality Westbrook in this game reminds me why I hate him so much sometimes he thinks he's a #1 option... and that's not the case.... he reminds me of a Allen Iverson type and I don't want any of those kind of players on my team.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby 7cody on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:43 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:
venky wrote:Now you can give some credit to Kobe and his good defense, but he also missed some open shots.


Actually, he did not miss open shots, "HE MISSED STUPID SHOTS" if anyone was actually watching the game you would have known that Westbrook was trying to ball-hog and got his garbage rebounds and his assists ... and that's that.

in reality Westbrook in this game reminds me why I hate him so much sometimes he thinks he's a #1 option... and that's not the case.... he reminds me of a Allen Iverson type and I don't want any of those kind of players on my team.


Westbrook, has good as he his, cancels out a lot of his greatness with stupidity. Luckily, he helps his own team more than he helps the opponent with poor decision-making and shot selection, and the difference of his contribution to his own team - his contribution to the opponent is great enough to remain an elite player

If that makes any sense, he's basically a dumb great player
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby Ice-Fire on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:48 pm

7cody wrote:Westbrook, has good as he his, cancels out a lot of his greatness with stupidity. Luckily, he helps his own team more than he helps the opponent with poor decision-making and shot selection, and the difference of his contribution to his own team - his contribution to the opponent is great enough to remain an elite player

If that makes any sense, he's basically a dumb great player


It's not the first time he had a 6/22 shooting performance he also had a 4/20 shooting performance in the finals... and I'm arguing about his mentality of being a #1 option when he's not.... like I said he looks like a Allen Iverson clone to me, you wouldn't really find any difference between AI and Westbrook both are egoistic players.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby karacha on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:00 pm

Well, the difference is this: Wesbrook is bigger, stronger and rarely injured.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:11 pm

And Westbrook has Vienna Sausage's for lips. There's another difference.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby lakersyunowin on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:53 pm

got the win and we needed it. but we can't relax too soon.

also, FT's.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby JLaker17 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:54 pm

Can't take our foot off the gas and start taking quick 3's when up. It was good to see us win when most of our shooters were off, FTs were horrible. Still good to get win obviously.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:55 pm

FT shooting, disappointed in the way this game concluded.
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby karacha on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:55 pm

How about staying focused and hitting some FTs for change, hmm?
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Re: WMC 12/13:Statement MADE! (19-25)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:55 pm

pau hasnt had a 20 and 10 game since the first game of the season
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