WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:10 pm

terrible game from the start. knew it would be messy just with all the turnovers and just playing sloppy. easily bc of the b2b bc of the amount of energy they give to just win a game. beasely of course goes off to triple his average and makes some ridic circus shot to ice the game after almost turning it over.

just a bad game and now dwight will prob be out for a couple games. great. it was the SUNS! how do you lose. dragic gortat scola didnt beat us at all....all beasley. he scored like all there points in the 4th no joke
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby The Laker Link on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:11 pm

That was depressing, but their system was bound to have flaws. They'll be ok. Win some, lose some.

I'm not happy about this, but they'll make the playoffs. The lakers are better now than they were a month ago. I'll be ok with this lose. If they lose Friday to the Wolves, I'll be more worried.

How often do teams win Back to Back games?
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Finwë wrote:Meh. More of the same. I wasn't going to really get my hopes up until we proved we could win on the road, win trap games and tough teams.. No consistency, no toughness, just more of the same.

We don't deserve, basketball-wise, to make the playoffs. Take your being a fan of the team out of the equation. Just be a fan of the sport and not the team for a minute. Do we deserve to make the playoffs? Did we deserve to win tonight? No.


Nah we deserved to win tonight. They weren't as good as the last few games but everything was still clicking in a similar manner. That meltdown in the 4th was a direct result of Dwight getting injured. Without him our defense is tissue paper and they lost all their composure.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby GoldenChocobo on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:13 pm

The Laker Link wrote:That was depressing, but their system was bound to have flaws. They'll be ok. Win some, lose some.

I'm not happy about this, but they'll make the playoffs. The lakers are better now than they were a month ago. I'll be ok with this lose. If they lose Friday to the Wolves, I'll be more worried.

How often do teams win Back to Back games?


How often do contenders lose to trash teams like Suns and Kings?
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Forward Three on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:13 pm

Season was basically over going into this game, but it's official now. We are not making the playoffs. Doesn't matter what epiphanies or revelations this team has at this point, the number one thing they could not afford to do was give up L's to crap teams, that they had a 13 point lead and blew it only further solidifies that this team does not have what it takes.

Yes, there are a litany of excuses, some of them are completely valid and unfortunate(injuries mostly) but even when things are rolling this team still finds ways to lose basketball games. They have defensive lapses that are just downright insulting to watch, and they have done it enough times in enough ways by now that there really is no point in assuming things will turn around or change course.

Nightmare of a season, possible candidate for one of the worst in franchise history, and I think I'm officially done with it. I'll still check out a game now and again, but this team can't respect themselves or the game, there's nothing worth supporting in that.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Kit on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:14 pm

Last time lost to the Pacers because of Pau's weak D. Tonight again.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:14 pm

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:This team isn't very good. When they're on the road, Kobe and Nash pass to a bunch of chuckers who can't make a shot. The system won't work on the road.


it feels like 80% of the time, that chucker was MWP tonight. kneejerk reaction after the loss: get rid of pau and mwp for something good.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:17 pm

no one was hitting shots in the end and metta was getting beat by beasley everytime. clark should have been put on him...much better choice imo.

and of course dwight gets injured on the first game of the trip. of course! by shannon brown of all people
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Jellincon on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:18 pm

I was hoping we were done losing to bad teams. WRONG! Chances of making the playoffs are just about dead now. So sad we can't even beat the Suns on the road.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby The Laker Link on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:18 pm

GoldenChocobo wrote:
The Laker Link wrote:That was depressing, but their system was bound to have flaws. They'll be ok. Win some, lose some.

I'm not happy about this, but they'll make the playoffs. The lakers are better now than they were a month ago. I'll be ok with this lose. If they lose Friday to the Wolves, I'll be more worried.

How often do teams win Back to Back games?


How often do contenders lose to trash teams like Suns and Kings?


We did lose to Memphis who was at the bottom of the barrel in 2002. Hasn't Miami lost to the Raptors or someone this year?

I'm mad and disappointed, don't get me wrong, I just think, it the Lakers can win those 3 in a row with the system they are playing, I have way more confidence that they can turn things around. The system has weaknesses, but every system does, also Dwight getting hurt like that deflated our chemistry.

I think Dwight will be ok, and I think we'll be ok. If you guys think, this means we have no chance to the playoffs, so be it, but I don't.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Finwë on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:23 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:
Finwë wrote:Meh. More of the same. I wasn't going to really get my hopes up until we proved we could win on the road, win trap games and tough teams.. No consistency, no toughness, just more of the same.

We don't deserve, basketball-wise, to make the playoffs. Take your being a fan of the team out of the equation. Just be a fan of the sport and not the team for a minute. Do we deserve to make the playoffs? Did we deserve to win tonight? No.


Nah we deserved to win tonight. They weren't as good as the last few games but everything was still clicking in a similar manner. That meltdown in the 4th was a direct result of Dwight getting injured. Without him our defense is tissue paper and they lost all their composure.

Yeah but that's the thing, a team that straight up breaks down because one of their players got hurt and allows like a 21-4 run (or something) to one of the worst teams in the league does not deserve to win IMO.
It was a mental breakdown. Our D wasn't terrible just because we were missing Dwight.. Would've Dwight been on Beasley and stopping his pull-up Js? Would've Dwight closed out on Dudley? on Scola? Not his assignments..
It was WEAK play from our team. On the other end it was just as terrible. MWP flat out sucked, Kobe looked out of sync, Nash wasn't a real threat, nor was Gasol.. The team just bowed down and let the Suns take the game from them

EDIT: We had two 9 turnover quarters. That just baffles me. One of them was the 4th, trying to close the game out. We gave them confidence and rythm, and flat out lost ours.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:25 pm

It doesn't pay to get too emtionally invested in this Lakers team. Once Dwight went out, our interior defense suffers because Pau can't guard the paint to save his life. Addtionally, 20 TO's doesn't help. We just fell apart at the end. We revert back to old habits. The team is just looks mentally defeated on the road right now.

This was the game to set the tone for the trip. Win this game and get off to a positive start for the teams mental psyche. Now, this roadtrip can go either way; it be horribly bad or we can attempt to salvage the remaining 6 games.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby BDG on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:26 pm

Got the game spoiled for me ... sounds like we were in control of the game with a double-digit lead then Dwight got hurt and we collapsed?

Any reason for concern?
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:26 pm

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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby BDG on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:28 pm

Damn we've been shooting way too many threes though. 33 attempts vs NOLA, 27 tonight ...

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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:29 pm

Well bleep that was fun while it lasted. Does not look good with "Shoulders" '..... shoulder :man5:
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Finwë on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:31 pm

BDG wrote:Got the game spoiled for me ... sounds like we were in control of the game with a double-digit lead then Dwight got hurt and we collapsed?

Any reason for concern?

Yeah, the fact that the team is still weak-minded, can't get a W on the road to save it's life, and still hasn't shown the ability to play consistent quality basketball in extended periods of time.

1st Q and 4th Q we had 9 turnovers each! On the fourth we shot like 20% or something. Just terrible.
Dwight getting hurt might've been the first domino but still in no way it's an excuse of what came afterwords. Just a total collapse
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby borri on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:32 pm

Even when we were up 13...i just knew we'd screw this up. Had a bad feeling about tonight. This team is a mirage. It's a collection of mismatched parts, including the head coach.

Eh. I am so over this team. I'll still watch but won't become emotionally involved like I normally do. It'll masochistic if I do.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Weezy on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:34 pm

BDG wrote:Got the game spoiled for me ... sounds like we were in control of the game with a double-digit lead then Dwight got hurt and we collapsed?

Any reason for concern?


The lead was actually already being chipped away at and had gotten down to like 5 or so I believe when Dwight went down. We just started missing shots, Beasley kept scoring, we lost control fully when Dwight went out. Pau couldn't guard the rim, we turned the ball over, Kobe missed a game tying layup with like 20 seconds left, everything that could go wrong, went wrong. Cause for concern, yes, same road woes showed up, role players reverted with no home crowd, Kobe kept facilitating but shots weren't going down. If Dwight is out any length of time our defense is gone pretty much.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:37 pm

borri wrote:Eh. I am so over this team. I'll still watch but won't become emotionally involved like I normally do. It'll masochistic if I do.


What you speak of...is impossible

I was probably going to stop watching so many games this season, but they changed my mind with the 3 game winning streak thinking they had turned it around. But if Dwight is out I won't be able to bring myself to watch anymore games because I know it will be pain and misery every single night.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:39 pm

borri wrote:Eh. I am so over this team. I'll still watch but won't become emotionally involved like I normally do. It'll masochistic if I do.


i say this all the time, but i can't disconnect myself emotionally...it's the lakers. i can, however, lower my expectations.
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Re: WMC 12/13: That Makes twenty (20-25)

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:40 pm

lakersyunowin wrote:
Ice-Fire wrote:
lakersyunowin wrote:fish i miss the character and heart of this man. it's too bad that age and decline caught up to him.


Nash brings, exactly what Fisher bought with 10x the better results.

Fisher was a chucker and couldn't stop missing lay-ups.

if you don't recognize that fisher was clutch as hell and was instrumental in our two recent chips, you're just blind hating. now i love nash and think he's clutch too, but as far as i'm aware we have zero championships with him. i don't know what results you're calculating and how you've evaluated them as 10x better, but the proof is in the pudding. and as far as nash is concerned, that's still up in the air.


Must be "Doberman's" Fish hating brother just showed up on CL. Perfect :bricks:
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Finwë on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:41 pm

Will the FO make any sort of move? Have they given up? Do they feel making a move would even change anything?
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby noobiew on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:42 pm

Season high 27 points for Michael Beasley, thank you Lakers :bow:
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:43 pm

Live by the three and die by the three.

Everyone went cold at the same time and we gave them confidence in the early 4th with some horrible possessions. When Howard went down the defense went down too.

I was in a box toward the other end of the floor when he re-injured his shoulder and you could hear him yell when it happened.

The whole game lacked flow and energy from the beginning.

Disappointing for my first live Laker game in over a year
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