WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby Vasashi17 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:07 pm

Classic example of living and dying by the long ball tonight. They couldn't miss in the first half and ran up the score...missed a bunch in the second and Minny came back.

Why was the zone thrown at us? Isn't it supposed to encourage more jumpers (which we were making)? Well, most of our jumpers came from inside out. Either through the post via Gasol or dribble penetration from Kobe or Nash.

That zone got thrown at us and we just continued to swing the ball on the perimeter and chuck away.

Goddammit Mike...a red light needs to be enforced on the long ball. This ish worked with Minny...but try doing this with a playoff team and we get ran out the building.

This road trip is going to see us seeing lesser talent. Develop some good habits for chist's sake.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby FabFourLakers on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:08 pm

I've never been more UPSET after a WIN than I am right now...you woudl think after being up 28 you wouldn't let these guys cut it all the way to 4 pts int he 4th quarter and we're forced to play all of our starters a ton of minutes....just very disappointed in this team. The Twolves are a bad team..what happens when we play a very good team? Are we just gonna give up 20 pt leads on the regular? That suns game is still in the back of my mind...i won't get over it unless we beat Brooklyn and Miami on this trip en route to a 6-1 road trip.
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Re: WMC 12/13: blow the game. Oh my, my, my (20-26)

Postby Weezy on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:09 pm

therealdeal wrote:I hate this team. I hate them. They don't play through adversity, they don't have heart and passion, they don't have any cohesion.

It was going to be hard enough to build chemistry without injuries and with the same coach all season long. We got neither of those things and now our team just looks like guys in a gym playing together.

I hate it.


Whoa whoa whoa, where did that come from, especially from the guy that runs the optimism thread? :man10: I'm with you though, I really do not like this team very much. Outside of Kobe there aren't a lot of mentally tough guys on the roster, and even Kobe is having his troubles with turnovers still, and streaky shooting.

My complaints, WAYYYYYY too many freakin 3's, this is not the formula for a championship. Also, zone defense, is it THAT hard to figure out? We have been looking for the Lakers to not be stunned and confounded by a zone defense since freaking Shaq was still here and teams would throw it at us. You'd think after almost a decade and a handful of coaches we could figure it out quicker.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby lakersyunowin on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:09 pm

not sure who this insults more, us or the twolves:
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby JLaker17 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:09 pm

I mean a win is a win, but this was not impressive at all and is a prime example of how bad we actually are systematically as a team.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby Weezy on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:16 pm

JLaker17 wrote:I mean a win is a win, but this was not impressive at all and is a prime example of how bad we actually are systematically as a team.


I agree, a win is a win, and we not a great team so I will take every win I can get. Winning against Phoenix would have been ugly still too, but I'd take that win if I could have it in a second. We aren't going anywhere special this season IMO, not with the way we can't sustain winning streaks, can't hold leads, can't play defense well enough, but at the very least I want to see us make the playoffs and avoid embarrassment. The only thing worse than not making the playoffs would be making them and losing to the Clippers in the first round :hurl:
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:17 pm

I don't believe any more that this team will tear it up in the playoffs. They look like a team that barely makes the 8th seed.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby lakersyunowin on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:19 pm

with the season we've had, a first round and out doesn't actually sound too bad from where i'm sitting.

how sad.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby FabFourLakers on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:21 pm

The thing that really ticks me off is that Kobe is PASSING the ball and these guys are getting WIDE OPEN LOOKS and they continue to miss. Jodie Meeks has really irked me...same with MWP...either these guys pass up wide open shots or they're missing them. Why can't we get some consistent shot makers on this team? I wish Nash shot the ball more....he's the only guy I feel that can hit an open shot on this team and i can feel CONFIDENT about it!

I mean a 28 point lead down to 4? How does this happen? I don't even know if we deserved to win this game given how many injuries the Wolves had and how much they fought to get back in the game....
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:28 pm

Woah glad I missed this one. Blew a 28 pt lead :man10:

Can you imagine if they didn't start out the game shooting 80% from 3. They would have got wrecked
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:31 pm

why can't we win easy? :freak2: :bang:
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:36 pm

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:Woah glad I missed this one. Blew a 28 pt lead :man10:

Can you imagine if they didn't start out the game shooting 80% from 3. They would have got wrecked


or we could of finished hot after starting cold. Selective "if's" for the win
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby borri on Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:47 am

Last 3 games.

NOH - blow 19 pt lead. Squeak out a win.
PHX - blow 14 pt lead. Lose.
Minn - blow 27 pt lead. Nervous win.

We've blown leads before. ORL and HOU are two i can recall.

Really WTF.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby gcclaker on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:56 am

That zone Adelman took really slowed down their attack and befuddled them. Big key is that they kept their composure enough not to have Minny maintain their momentum.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:20 am

borri wrote:Last 3 games.

NOH - blow 19 pt lead. Squeak out a win.
PHX - blow 14 pt lead. Lose.
Minn - blow 27 pt lead. Nervous win.

We've blown leads before. ORL and HOU are two i can recall.

Really WTF.


It's not a good thing but I remember the 07-08 team did the same thing. In the "MVP" game at the end of the season the Lakers had a 30 point lead on the Hornets and it went all the way down 1 by the 3 minute mark of the 4th quarter. And then we all know what happened in the Finals :man6:

Teams that rely on hot shooting to get a big lead and expect it to carry them the rest of the game will go through this. The problem is our defense is so bad no lead is big enough.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby The Rock on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:26 am

So do we decrease Dwight's minutes and blame it on his shoulder? We didnt have any FT or TO issues last night
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:45 pm

gcclaker wrote:That zone Adelman took really slowed down their attack and befuddled them. Big key is that they kept their composure enough not to have Minny maintain their momentum.


It must be out uniforms...... The Lakers have been unable to solve a zone for a decade..... regardless of the personnel.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby revgen on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:18 pm

^It's not just the Lakers. The Mavs pulled the zone on Miami in the 2011 Finals.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby Ice-Fire on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:49 pm

The Lakers better be prepared for Detroit, Calderon is gonna make his debut in that game so you know the Pistons will show effort.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:51 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:The Lakers better be prepared for Detroit, Calderon is gonna make his debut in that game so you know the Pistons will show effort.


Where have you seen he's for sure playing?
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby Ice-Fire on Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:58 pm

Well he's not injured is he?
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:00 pm

Ice-Fire wrote:Well he's not injured is he?


He's got VISA issues.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:23 pm

any team with one bonafide star will have trouble against the zone. That's why it worked well against the Heat in the finals of 11, and that's why it worked well last night against us.

Kobe really needs a Rudy Gay type at sf, so he has someone to pass to. It's a shame that he has overconfident Ron instead, and an old Nash who can only spot up these days.
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby thkthebest on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:49 pm

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:any team with one bonafide star will have trouble against the zone. That's why it worked well against the Heat in the finals of 11, and that's why it worked well last night against us.

Kobe really needs a Rudy Gay type at sf, so he has someone to pass to. It's a shame that he has overconfident Ron instead, and an old Nash who can only spot up these days.

What in the world... The Heat is known as one of the strongest "superteams". Which team has a bigger collection of stars than Miami?
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Re: WMC 12/13: start great end well (21-26)

Postby The Rock on Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:26 pm

Im on my phone so I cant post the link...according to David Mayo on MLIVE.COM Jose Calderon visa issues not resolved yet and he will probably miss the next 2 games. Hope we win tomorrow just like Friday this is a must win game. Last time in Detroit Stuckey lit up Artest, no repeat of that please. We blew them out in November hopr we win big again and veryone can vo enjoy SuperBowl Sunday
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