WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Finwë on Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:36 am

Other than everything that's already been said, I'd like to add those touch fouls they called on Kobe when he was guarding Durant.
Even though I felt the game was pretty much lost, I loved to see Kobe take Durant to try and stop him, being physical and not backing down. Kobe's D has been suspect this whole season with the exception of a few sequences or stretches, and it was an encouraging sight. Of course the refs had to ruin it all, had to protect their golden boy KD.
I hate that, it seems you can't really body up and be physical against some guys. They are so skilled and athletic, without being allowed to seriously get up on them you won't stop them. Being agressive is a great way of trying to do that, not only looking to take them out of their comfort zones and alter shots but also to get in their heads. The refs didn't allow it. A shame.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Ariza3 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:06 am

Durant is gunna get a ton of calls anywhere he plays especially his own home court. I thought the refs were a little strict against us with all the offensive fouls and such. I think it just came down to defense. they were shooting extremely well. Westbrook had no one to guard to all his energy was shown on offense. When Nash is back he'll have to chase him around all game and Nash is gunna school him and make him look silly sometimes as Westbrook will do to him athletically.

I think not having Pau also was bad thing for us. He may not be playing as well as he can be this season but he sure helps our team win games and thus putting Jamison on the bench to give us the spark we needed on O sometimes. Pau's length also bothers a lot of their rim shots even though he doesnt get a lot of blocks.

I wasnt mad about the game at all actually. I thought it would have been way worse than it was. I wasnt expecting anything but the team fought hard and never quit and got it within 5. a missed free throw or 2 for okc or a stupid ghost foul against us taken away and we could have gotten even close. Still think Kobe needs to score less and create more...the correlation is more than just a coincidence now. Dwight and awesome and other than on D, Meeks and Duhon really played well. Meeks needs to get more touches when hes in but that was up to Kobe in the end and really just was looking for himself or dwight occationally.

just gotta pick up the transition D and helping and it'll be better. really thought the game without nash and pau and the way this team has been up and down, i thought it would have been way worse
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Re: WMC 12/13: 30K points and a "W" (9-10)

Postby JGC on Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:39 am

KBJelleyBean24 wrote:The difference is Kobe has 5 rings to Westbrook's 0 so he has the right to be that way


Oh come on. You really going to say Kobe had no right to be that way before he had his rings? That's silly. Kobe was damned good enough to flaunt it before his rings!
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:02 am

2-8 in our last 10 games against OKC ( regular season and playoffs) , 0-5 in OKC ... and only 2 of these 8 losses were close games ( well at least both were playoffs games )
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Re: WMC 12/13: 30K points and a "W" (9-10)

Postby KBJelleyBean24 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:33 am

JGC wrote:
KBJelleyBean24 wrote:The difference is Kobe has 5 rings to Westbrook's 0 so he has the right to be that way


Oh come on. You really going to say Kobe had no right to be that way before he had his rings? That's silly. Kobe was damned good enough to flaunt it before his rings!


YES! Kobe was WAY better than Westbrook back in the day!
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby themasterphil on Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:13 am

To be honest i didnt expect nothing else in this game and to be down just 6 is great...we play without 2 player form starting 5 and we also play against the officials so i am satisfied.....i already forgot this game.....in the next 10 games I think we would have 8 wins....i can see them winning vs jazz, cavs, wizards, Philly, Cats, GSW, Knicks and portland and we lose games at Knicks and Denver....17-13 after this one, ok maybe we lose vs Philly but I think that Howard, without Bynum will dominate against them.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:22 am

Yeah Kobe at Westbrook's age pretty much earned the right to do and say whatever he wanted, still. By the way Russell shot 12-26, Kobe 11-24, Russell's offensive approach is pretty much similar. If he feels like dominating he'll do it, doesn't matter if he takes most of the shots opposed to Durant or not, same with Kobe. Still it's not some spectacular indication of surprassing Kobe, or LeBron, or whatever. If Kobe came out in today's league maybe being presumed a douche wouldn't be so bad as long as he played great and dominated, and people wouldn't hold the "ball hog" black cloud over him. I said maybe lol.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Pig Miller on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:53 am

call me crazy, but i think we win 15 out of our next 20. the run starts now.

dwight is a beast again. kobe is looking to pass. meeks is gaining confidence.
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Re: WMC 12/13: 30K points and a "W" (9-10)

Postby JGC on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:08 am

KBJelleyBean24 wrote:
JGC wrote:
KBJelleyBean24 wrote:The difference is Kobe has 5 rings to Westbrook's 0 so he has the right to be that way


Oh come on. You really going to say Kobe had no right to be that way before he had his rings? That's silly. Kobe was damned good enough to flaunt it before his rings!


YES! Kobe was WAY better than Westbrook back in the day!


Ok, so the rings have nothing to do with it then.

Frankly, I find it refreshing to see players playing the game with that youthful exuberance. With a team full of vets, it's always about not being too high or too low and just keeping a calm demeanor and sometimes I find that kind of boring.

I want to see our players get mad, get feisty, get emotional about the game a little more to be honest. It irritates me when Westbrook does it against us, but if Westbrook was our point guard I'd like to see his 3pt ritual every time he nails one. You wouldn't?
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby ramsay13 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:13 am

Most lakers fan being 2 optimistic with the "the winning streak starts hear after the loss to OKC and a win at New Orleans"

awesome :bang:
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:37 am

lakerswiz wrote:lol @ everyone hating on westbrook because he tore the team apart last night. :man10:

no true basketball skill? :man10:

kids say the darndest things.


WEll he deserves to be hated on. The douchebag got away with murder all night. I wouldn't go with the "no true basketball skill" cause the guy can play. Is he as good as he thinks he is? No, not to me. But the hate he receives is very warranted imo.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby kenzo on Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:57 am

Pig Miller wrote:call me crazy, but i think we win 15 out of our next 20. the run starts now.

dwight is a beast again. kobe is looking to pass. meeks is gaining confidence.

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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby borri on Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:13 pm

I had to leave in the middle of the game to go out with the gf.....once again.... :man6:

Stopped watching at about 8 min left in the 2nd. We were down 1. WTF happened in that second quarter when they put up 41 pts? Pretty much we lost because of it.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Pig Miller on Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:58 pm

^ Westbrook abused us. We went a little cold too, and it was a double digit lead by the half.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:18 pm

Westbrook is a stud. When he has his jumper going, he is nearly impossible to guard. We don't have anybody that can stop him or Durant. Heck, neither does the rest of the league. Turnovers plagued us again and too many easy buckets we allowed. 28 fastbreak pts.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:22 pm

Getting 18 minutes of Ebanks/Morris......0 points, 0/6 FG, 1 TO really killed us. We got production everywhere else, but these two knuckleheads.

Morris picking his dribble up multiple times last night behind the 3 point line was really annoying.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby ThizGuy83 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:49 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Getting 18 minutes of Ebanks/Morris......0 points, 0/6 FG, 1 TO really killed us. We got production everywhere else, but these two knuckleheads.

Morris picking his dribble up multiple times last night behind the 3 point line was really annoying.

i had a slight hope for morris when he had a few good games in a row but he regressed alot... to where he helps this team by just staying on the bench... cant wait till when nash comes back so our point guards will be nash and duhon...
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby borri on Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:00 pm

^^^ Sigh, and we signed Ebanks and Morris to contracts.........
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:34 pm

a year ago today we had chris paul then didnt
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:41 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:a year ago today we had chris paul then didnt


At least we aren't the Hornets, we essentially came out of the deal with Nash/D12, the Hornets have a maxed out perennially injured player, a role player(Aminu) and Austin Rivers to show for themselves.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby GNC on Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:58 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
CaCHooKa Man wrote:a year ago today we had chris paul then didnt


At least we aren't the Hornets, we essentially came out of the deal with Nash/D12, the Hornets have a maxed out perennially injured player, a role player(Aminu) and Austin Rivers to show for themselves.


to be fair they also got anthony davis too. with the package we were giving them (along with Houston) they would have won more games and it would have been less likely that they would have gotten the #1 pick.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby Uncle_Meat on Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:15 pm

It's sad to know there is little defense against extreme talent. :man5:
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby kenzo on Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:16 pm

^ they were getting the no.1 pick no metter what.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby RushDelivery on Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:07 am

CaCHooKa Man wrote:a year ago today we had chris paul then didnt

A month ago we had Phil Jackson and then we didn't.
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Re: WMC 12/13: I blame the refs! (9-11)

Postby KBJelleyBean24 on Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:20 am

RushDelivery wrote:
CaCHooKa Man wrote:a year ago today we had chris paul then didnt

A month ago we almost had Phil Jackson and then we didn't.

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