WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:21 pm

The Rock wrote:Since we're playing Miami it got me thinking

You look at someone like Chris Bosh...Hes a perennial all star in Toronto, averaging 20/9 for his career, the primary option for them and he goes to Miami, he gets disrespected by the fans, the media and even by his own fans. He doesn't get many plays runs for him. He doesn't get the ball in his comfort spots on the floor. He gets ignored for long stretches of the game and shoots whatever is left over from Lebron and Wade and yet the guy goes out there and competes hard, he lays his body out drawing charges. I know hes soft, I know he can put up some weak shots but the guy at the end of the day competes hard in both ends and thats why hes helped his team get to 2 straight Finals and Gasol hasn't when seemingly Gasol is supposed to be the most skilled big man in the league. You dont see Bosh pouting and complaining that he doesnt get the ball in his sweet spots or gets ignored on the floor and stop competing. Guys like Howard, Gasol and even Bynum and Odom could learn something from him


1. How come Bosh doesn't get the ball in his sweet spots ? He's a very good midrange J (this year great) , always has been ... he gets less touches but he knew that as soon as he signed with the Heat

2. the criticism is warranted ... can't get a rebound to save his life in most of his Heat tenure

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3. Ever heard of LO coming from the bench for two titles ?
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby NewDynasty on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:26 pm

They are murdering us on the boards
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby Kit on Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:31 pm

The ball just bounces to their way all day.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby Ice-Fire on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:00 pm

If MWP doesn't get traded I'm turning off the TWC Network.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby Biz on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:06 pm

Dwight had an amazing first half....then we don't go to him at all in the 2nd half. I think he had 1 shot that wasn't an offensive rebound in the second half other than his And1 with a minute to go when the game was over. That 4th quarter was horrendous...Kobe iso is just not going to cut it.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby dak22 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:07 pm

WMC: Hey at least made Lebron foul 4 times. Moral Victory Achieved
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby Ice-Fire on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:08 pm

biz wrote:then we don't go to him at all in the 2nd half.


What game were you watching? the Lakers went to Howard plenty of times in the 4th but it resulted in turnovers......

I seriously cannot watch another game of Jamison and MWP.... trade them while they still have value.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby Weezy on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:09 pm

Eh, I guess I shouldn't have expected a win was even possible in the first place. Oh well, would have still been an acceptable road trip had we not blown that game to Phoenix, would have been 5-2, 4-3 is not acceptable, sorry. MWP sucks a**, I wish he could be bought out. We're still not playing together, way too many Kobe iso's that went nowhere, no flow or movement, so many guys standing around not involved, Kobe and Dwight have zero 2 man game going on. They could be Kobe-Shaq-light if Kobe broke down the D and fed him, or he set screens up top for Nash on the pick n roll, but none of that happens, none of it. The rebounding was a joke, that was all effort and there was none of it, from almost everyone, Howard wasn't getting the ball so he decided not to try hard overall, love banking the future on a guy like that. On to the next one, the quest to just make the playoffs and get bounced in the first round to AVOID embarrassment continues.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby cthroatgtr on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:09 pm

You aren't going to win with one dependable scorer and a completely unimaginative offense. The whole offense was Kobe in the post. 4th QTR Miami just doubled that and since no one else on the Lakers was doing anything...this is what D'antoni gets paid for? He just passed backup QB as the easiest job in sports.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby The Rock on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:09 pm

4-3. I'd give this trip a B- Phoenix loss really hurt.

Im not too upset by tonight's loss in Miami. We battled for 3 Quarters and ran out of gas in the 4th. Glad the trip is over, lets take care of business and win these next two before the break comes. Must win games vs Phoenix and Clippers this week
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:10 pm

The 3rd quarter rebounding was awful. To give a team like Miami 2nd, 3rd, attempts at the basket killed us. We were playing good initial defense but couldn't finish it off by rebounding the basketball. Even then we were still in the game and the 4th quarter we self-imploded turning the ball over. That completely changed the game. They were given easy buckets, got the crowd involved and was our ultimate demise.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby KBJelleyBean24 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:10 pm

How does a team with Chris Bosh starting at center out rebound us :bang:
I should get an assist for that. It's an intentional pass to oneself, so it's an assist. That way people can't say all I do is shoot.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby khmrP on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:10 pm

valiant effort till the 4th, Kobe to many ISO's and TO's, Nash couldn't even out play Chalmers by much sad and out bench wasn't there
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby lakersyunowin on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:11 pm

not surprised, but still disappointing
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby cthroatgtr on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:11 pm

MWP is definitely the weak link here. With no production from that spot team is at a disadvantage. At this point in his career he should be the backup SF but the team has no one else and clearly Ebanks eithers sucks or is so far in D'antoni's doghouse we'll never find out.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby borri on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:11 pm

Nothing to WMC about with this loss. MIA is just a much better team.

Oh wait....there is something to WMC about:

RON ARTEST. God this guy has been putrid since Jan 1 2013.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby ElginTheGreat on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:11 pm

Well, we completely blew that one. Dwight was rolling and we were building up a decent lead. We went away from him and the game was never the same. Just don't get it.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:12 pm

4-3 isn't bad enough to bury this team but it didn't do us any favors. Now even if we win our next 2 home games going to ASB we'll still be 2 games under .500. If we won today we would have been .500 with two victories at home. Really big blow losing that PHX game.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby dj vitus on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:12 pm

Biz wrote:Dwight had an amazing first half....then we don't go to him at all in the 2nd half. I think he had 1 shot that wasn't an offensive rebound in the second half other than his And1 with a minute to go when the game was over. That 4th quarter was horrendous...Kobe iso is just not going to cut it.

True, but I think midway through the 4th, we tried to throw it into him twice and they both resulted in TOs, so then we just went away.

Also tough to pass over a fronting defender when the refs are calling push off on Howard.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby denimPortugal on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:13 pm

Right now every loss is taking a step back to reach the POs.

We have to win 4 in a row (Suns, Clipps,Celts and JailBlazers)!
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby Armani on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:13 pm

Why can't we close games anymore? Bah. We had it until the 4th Q. I don't know what happened then.
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Postby dj vitus on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:14 pm

ElginTheGreat wrote:Well, we completely blew that one. Dwight was rolling and we were building up a decent lead. We went away from him and the game was never the same. Just don't get it.

We tried going back to it in the 4th, but it led to a couple TOs. Then when he finally got the ball once, he tried to pass it out but got triple teamed, and his pass was intercepted. So not much choice other than giving Kobe his ISO ball.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:15 pm

Every player on this roster not named Kobe , Nash and Clark either suck at playing B-Ball or has the wrong mentality ...

We will probably 7-8 more wins with a decent starting SF ... Piece of Crap is beyond pathetic

- We lack a decent wing with size coming off the bench

The Dwight diva situation is getting worse and worse
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby Finwë on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:17 pm

Biz wrote:Dwight had an amazing first half....then we don't go to him at all in the 2nd half. I think he had 1 shot that wasn't an offensive rebound in the second half other than his And1 with a minute to go when the game was over. That 4th quarter was horrendous...Kobe iso is just not going to cut it.

Many of our 4th quarter turnovers happened trying to get the ball inside. Miami trapped us and either we made a bad pass because of the pressure or a decent one that just got stolen by a rotating miami player.
They played awesome pressure D and we weren't prepared for it, but it did look like we we're trying to go to Dwight in the 4th.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Down big. Get the Win? Who Knew. (24-27)

Postby dj vitus on Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:17 pm

Armani wrote:Why can't we close games anymore? Bah. We had it until the 4th Q. I don't know what happened then.

Miami is just a great veteran team. They aren't champions for nothing. That and they still get whistles on almost every layup. Despite all that, the game was still winnable if only a few rebounds went our way or if Metta could hit a couple shots (wth happened to him? plantar fascitis??)
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