WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby khmrP on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:24 pm

Jellincon wrote:WMC:

-O rebounds. It was so demoralizing on some possessions to give good effort on D but not finish the job by getting the board.

-Missed timely wide open 3's. Could have made a good dent in the lead if we had hit just a few of those wide open 3's down the stretch.


these 3's are so frustrating, its not like they're under heavy pressure at all, they're missing WIDE open dam shots! :bang: I swear if we had real shooters like a Korver/Novak getting these types of looks they'd shoot 50%+
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby raviator on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:26 pm

No consistent energy on the defensive side. Getting outworked on the boards. Couldn't make timely baskets. Bad coaching.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby hollywood swinger on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:30 pm

Gasol with his usual clippers performance of poor effort, no force, girlish physicality, euro aggressive
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:32 pm

that was bad. some possessions we played awesome D for 24 seconds but then would just let the rebound go over their heads to someone else. didnt really work hard on the glass and that killed us.

the 3 point shooting was great at first but then they couldnt hit anything. Blake was pathetic from 3. the amount of WIDE open corner 3's he missed was just bad. they were all at huge times and he missed them all. it was terrible.

dantoni made the worst timeout calls i felt and really gave the clippers a ton of momentum by holding off.

just overall effort wasnt there which isnt surprising as its a sunday 12:30 game in which they ALWAYS play like this. turnovers werent even that bad it was just the rebounding i thought was the real reason they lost and getting back on d.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:35 pm

the refs were terrible too. it wasnt the reason we lost by any means but it def didnt help. i thought the lakers couldnt get a single call and were called for touching the clippers. barnes 3 point shot foul was complete bs and of course they didnt get the rebound.

just so many times it was a blatant foul and nothing. cp3 stripping dwight was nothing but arm no call. just a lot of bad officiating in favor of the clippers which isnt surprising as the clippers winning brings in more $ right now than the lakers winning imo. historic run for the clippers of course they'll officiate in their favor. it was obvious
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby hollywood swinger on Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:06 pm

Clippers are just a horrible matchup for us too fast too athletic too deep & a dominant pg. not to mention we have injuries. that being said this loss was really no ones fault just gotta move on. Clippers will lose in 1st round anyway so who cares.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby Finwë on Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:20 pm

Not boxing out, terrible coverage of P&Rs, and bricking open shot after open shot in the 2nd half.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby abeer3 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:56 pm

gotta make shots. the clippers made a bunch of tough ones, and the lakers didn't step up, period. also, the few that the clips missed ended up in their hands. yuck.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby JGC on Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:14 pm

Weezy wrote:Just being honest, I expected a Lakers loss today. My only thought was that maybe we could get it closer to 10, maybe even a single-digit loss instead of like the 25 I believe it was last time since we seem to have improved. I guess we did that, 14 is better than 25 right? :man10: Anyway, Clippers just own us now, too deep, too athletic, bad matchup for us, is what it is, and it's why I said like a week or two ago that if we do get into the playoffs I did not want to face them and didn't get people wanting to. Hell we seem to have a better shot vs the Spurs and Thunder than the Clippers or Nuggets, at least those games stay close most of the time, the Clippers and Nuggets seem to beat us by around 20 every time.

I guess my WMC is that these are "dark times" for Lakers fans though, looks like missing the playoffs is likely, the Clippers sweep the season series for the first time ever, get their first Pacific Division title ever, Jerry is gone and the Lakers future in the hands of Jim is still unknown, strange times.


Totally agree. I didn't want to face the Clippers in the playoffs because I really don't want to lose to them. If we play against OKC or SAS and lose, ok, I could handle that, but only two teams where it would really bother me to see them win and that's LAC and MIA.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby khmrP on Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:59 pm

so if we dont make playoffs, anyone think Jim Buss will have anything to say about his coaching selection or just throw out the check list of excuses?
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby DarthRekal on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:02 pm

khmrP wrote:so if we dont make playoffs, anyone think Jim Buss will have anything to say about his coaching selection or just throw out the check list of excuses?

excuses... see the MDA thread.. its already being primed.. WHOLE season yadda yadda.. injuries.. yadda yadda... training camp.. blah blah blah
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Re: WMC 12/13: Grizzed the Grizz "Keeping Pace" (40-36)

Postby abeer3 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:05 pm

JGC wrote:
Weezy wrote:Just being honest, I expected a Lakers loss today. My only thought was that maybe we could get it closer to 10, maybe even a single-digit loss instead of like the 25 I believe it was last time since we seem to have improved. I guess we did that, 14 is better than 25 right? :man10: Anyway, Clippers just own us now, too deep, too athletic, bad matchup for us, is what it is, and it's why I said like a week or two ago that if we do get into the playoffs I did not want to face them and didn't get people wanting to. Hell we seem to have a better shot vs the Spurs and Thunder than the Clippers or Nuggets, at least those games stay close most of the time, the Clippers and Nuggets seem to beat us by around 20 every time.

I guess my WMC is that these are "dark times" for Lakers fans though, looks like missing the playoffs is likely, the Clippers sweep the season series for the first time ever, get their first Pacific Division title ever, Jerry is gone and the Lakers future in the hands of Jim is still unknown, strange times.


Totally agree. I didn't want to face the Clippers in the playoffs because I really don't want to lose to them. If we play against OKC or SAS and lose, ok, I could handle that, but only two teams where it would really bother me to see them win and that's LAC and MIA.


amen. when i realized the lakers weren't a contender (about six weeks before i realized they weren't a playoff team, which was about 4 months ago...), i was at least glad that i wouldn't have to watch them get smashed by miami in the finals. now that i've accepted the lakers' crappiness, the only things i have to look forward to are miami and the clips' respective exits from the playoffs. i'm guessing the former won't happen, but at least the latter will--and at least neither one will be punching the lakers out.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby khmrP on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:09 pm

DarthRekal wrote:
khmrP wrote:so if we dont make playoffs, anyone think Jim Buss will have anything to say about his coaching selection or just throw out the check list of excuses?

excuses... see the MDA thread.. its already being primed.. WHOLE season yadda yadda.. injuries.. yadda yadda... training camp.. blah blah blah


figures with Dr. Buss gone is there anyone or anything that could challenge Jim authority now? Is there any possibility of booting him out right of any type of decisions when it comes to the team?
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby DarthRekal on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:14 pm

khmrP wrote:
DarthRekal wrote:
khmrP wrote:so if we dont make playoffs, anyone think Jim Buss will have anything to say about his coaching selection or just throw out the check list of excuses?

excuses... see the MDA thread.. its already being primed.. WHOLE season yadda yadda.. injuries.. yadda yadda... training camp.. blah blah blah


figures with Dr. Buss gone is there anyone or anything that could challenge Jim authority now? Is there any possibility of booting him out right of any type of decisions when it comes to the team?

jeanie could make a power move... but i dont see it happening.. she loved daddy.. and would respect his wishes... we are going to be stuck with him for a while.. :man5:
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby noobiew on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:19 pm

Missed the Lakers-Clippers game because that was too early in my country here but did finished watched the Jazz-Warrior game. I have to say props for this Jazz team, they just play like they want the game more than the Lakers.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby odom1year on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:27 pm

Said many times before, Paul is the new king of LA.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby karacha on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:28 pm

odom1year wrote:Said many times before, Paul is the new king of LA.


Meh. LeBron James is the only King in the NBA anyway. Right?
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:30 pm

odom1year wrote:Said many times before, Paul is the new king of LA.


The Clips are going to have to win some playoff series before that is even close to being true.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:03 pm

odom1year wrote:Said many times before, Paul is the new king of LA.

:jam2: Thats what's up
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby odom1year on Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:37 pm

karacha wrote:
odom1year wrote:Said many times before, Paul is the new king of LA.


Meh. LeBron James is the only King in the NBA anyway. Right?


Most likely he is winning MVP again this year. I REALLY hope someone wins F-MVP rather than him.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby Helljumper on Sun Apr 07, 2013 8:38 pm

Call me crazy, but my WMC: Mitch.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:17 pm

Decided to look at this depth problem we have and compared our team minus our starters to the top teams in the league without their starters. (Not including injured players out for season)

Lakers
Blake / Duhon
Meeks
Clark
Jamison

Clippers
Bledsoe
Crawford / Billups
Barnes / Hill
Odom
Hollins/Turiaf

OKC

Jackson/Fisher
Martin
Brewer
Collison
Thabeet

Spurs

Mills/Neal
Ginobili / de Colo
Jackson
Bonner/Blair
Diaw

Nuggets

Miller
Brewer/Fournier
Chandler
Randolph
McGee/Mozgov

Miami

Cole
Allen
Miller/Jones
Haslem/Lewis
Anderson/Anthony

Chicago

Robinson
Belinelli

Gibson
Mohammed

Knicks

Prigioni
Smith
Novak
Martin
Camby/Thomas

If this problem doesn't get fixed next year, we are going to be looking at the same s*** as we are this year. Our starters are supposed to have the big advantage, but looking at these teams with their starting 5's, we don't have a huge advantage or any compared to these teams. Add in the fact that we have one of the weakest benches in the league and it's no wonder MDA has to run the starters into the ground.

I'm done with the lets see how many stars we can pack into a starting lineup. We need to balance this team out big time. Even with the starters taken out, these teams are still deep, while we can barely scrap together a 2nd unit.

We need to get some able bodies in here, so that if/when the injuries come we have replacements. There is no way we should be in a position if MWP goes down we don't have another SF to step up. That's ridiculous.

If it's just Kobe/D12 and a bunch of solid role players next season, I won't complain one bit. At least we won't be top heavy with a bunch of aging players with no backups behind them.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby Vasashi17 on Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:52 pm

The thing about that is, are our starting 5 being used effectively?

I don't think they are....and that is where MDA is hugely at fault.

I love JVG, but he came out recently saying that MDA deserves respect for not forcing his quick offense on this team and going to the strengths of this team. So our huge front line is resorted to PnR or stretch players, while our guards dominate the ball and try to play set-up. Still 7 man rotations....since December. Please tell me otherwise, how the direction and utilization of this team hasn't been done correctly? We don't see the blitzing offense that we normally would with MDA....but his imprints are all over this mess. And just look at how low we have fallen on the defensive front even with capable defenders on this team....I respectfully disagree with JVG...MDA's imprints are all over this team. But it felt good to see JVG associated in some way with the Lakers...maybe its something to look forward to.

We are top heavy, but if the top was used right, you don't need to overly rely on the bottom...right? In fact, if you utilize the top efficiently, you don't have to overuse the top....and maybe, just maybe...you don't drive these guys into an injury plagued season.

Management needed to make the smaller moves to shore up the roster....but their most erroneous move was the hiring of MDA with far more accomplished and decorated candidates available. The season was lost then IMHO.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby The Rock on Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:44 pm

How is offense even a problem...over the last 2 weeks since Pau returned

Pau 13.5 points, 7.8 rebs 5 assists 53% FG
Howard 18 points 14rebs 63% FG
Kobe 27 points, 6.3 rebs, 8 assists 42% FG

Nash has been gone most of those 2 weeks so our Big 3 is putting up huge offensive numbers....our big 3's offense is not the problem they're working just fine

Our 3 point shooting to relieve and support our big 3 has been inconsistent and so is the defense...those are bigger issues and thats a problem thats been here before MDA got here
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Re: WMC 12/13: Kings of LA? Clippers? Wait What.... (40-37)

Postby hollywood swinger on Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:53 pm

'yes i screwed your team and what are you gonna do about it?"
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