WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

GoldenKnight wrote:8-9 was the Heat's record before they started winning 21 out of their next 22...sadly, I don't think we will do nearly as good.

trodgers wrote:

Ariza3 wrote:Kobe didn't get guys involved early. pretty much has to force shots up just to get a look. Then down the stretch you couldn't go to anyone and Kobe went 1v5 without passing once.

He didn't shoot until 5 or 7 minutes left in the first. He had three assists and seven passes in the first quarter.

The team died when Howard started the parade to the FT line.

gill wrote:That 9 pt. lead we blew in the first half with kobe playing Hero ball looking for calls in the paint was loss opportunity,

Ariza3 wrote:Kobe didn't get guys involved early. pretty much has to force shots up just to get a look. Then down the stretch you couldn't go to anyone and Kobe went 1v5 without passing once.

also bad rotations tonight. thought Meeks should have gotten way more minutes. he drills a 3 to put us up 7 in the 4th and then gets benched and we end up down by one instantly. I thought you keep him in and best case he hits more 3's worst case he opens up more room for Dwight.

Ebanks wasn't terrible and did okay just didn't want him taking Meeks mins. rather have Kobe at 3 with Meeks at 2 than Ebanks at 3. only play Ebanks when Kobe is not in.

it was just no energy on both ends and Kobe taking it upon himself too early and the ball never moved at all for the rest of the game. he also played terrible sagging lazy jogging around d all game

D.B. Cooper wrote:

trodgers wrote:

Ariza3 wrote:Kobe didn't get guys involved early. pretty much has to force shots up just to get a look. Then down the stretch you couldn't go to anyone and Kobe went 1v5 without passing once.

He didn't shoot until 5 or 7 minutes left in the first. He had three assists and seven passes in the first quarter.

The team died when Howard started the parade to the FT line.

No way, it was way before that half ended.

lakerfansd wrote:If Pau is hurt, why not sit him for a few games? Start Jamison and have Hill backup.

@docrostov: w... what. RT @conradkaczmarek: Whoops. Dwight-Jamison shared court for 19 minutes and allowed 57 points (132.7 per 100 poss.) That's a lot

Armani wrote:

lakerfansd wrote:If Pau is hurt, why not sit him for a few games? Start Jamison and have Hill backup.

It wasn't Pau's fault tonight.

@docrostov: w... what. RT @conradkaczmarek: Whoops. Dwight-Jamison shared court for 19 minutes and allowed 57 points (132.7 per 100 poss.) That's a lot

Lakers just really sucked on D... why?

trodgers wrote:My biggest complaint is reactionary posts on here.

As for the team:
Kobe played too much.
Dwight played too much.
Dwight should be removed in crunch time until he proves a remotely reliable FT shooter.
Hack-a-Dwight killed any passion/activity we had.
Our bench didn't play enough.

last stand wrote:

trodgers wrote:My biggest complaint is reactionary posts on here.

As for the team:
Kobe played too much.
Dwight played too much.
Dwight should be removed in crunch time until he proves a remotely reliable FT shooter.
Hack-a-Dwight killed any passion/activity we had.
Our bench didn't play enough.

who do we put in for dwight though. Hill is just as bad of a free throw shooter. Pau can't move.

trodgers wrote:

D.B. Cooper wrote:

trodgers wrote:

Ariza3 wrote:Kobe didn't get guys involved early. pretty much has to force shots up just to get a look. Then down the stretch you couldn't go to anyone and Kobe went 1v5 without passing once.

He didn't shoot until 5 or 7 minutes left in the first. He had three assists and seven passes in the first quarter.

The team died when Howard started the parade to the FT line.

No way, it was way before that half ended.

I don't know what "it" refers to in your post.

I'm listing ALL of LA's possessions in these runs. You tell me what Kobe did to kill the team.

Third Q:
First Hack-a-Dwight
LA is up 7 with 0:42.7 left.
Howard is fouled. Misses both.
Howard is fouled. Misses one of two.
LA is up 4 going into fourth.
-3 points in 43 seconds

Fourth Q
Dwight and Kobe enter, LA up 7. 7:08 left.
Howard misses a shot.
Howard is fouled. Misses both.
Howard is fouled. Hits both.
Bryant hits a layup. (Ties it)
Bryant misses a shot.
Howard hits one of two. (LA down 1)
MWP misses a 3.
Howard fouled. Misses 2 of 2. (Down 6)
Howard fouled. Misses 1 of 2. (Down 8)
That's with 3:11 left.
-15 swing in 4:00; Kobe consumed two possessions. Dwight consumed six. MWP 1.

Vucevic hit a shot 11 seconds later to make it Orlando 100, Lakers 90.

trodgers wrote:To close the game? Pau. No question.

JLaker17 wrote:There is no excuse losing to a team like the Magic with the talent we have. Under .500 is pathetic and the team needs to wake up.

King of Clutch wrote:Guys, notice how we're all coming up with numerous problems for this team. They're ALL CORRECT to a degree. kobe's play style right now (without nash), kobe's D after screens, team defense, no heart, rotations, paus pnr d and overall play, howards free throws, No one having the authority to tell kobe what to do. We just have too many problems!!! I'm seriously beginning to doubt this teams potential. There are sooo many things fundamentally wrong with this team. If nash can somehow bring this team to championship level play, then he will truly deserves mvp. But I just don't see it happening. Our problems lie waay past steve nash's absence...

JGC wrote:

JLaker17 wrote:There is no excuse losing to a team like the Magic with the talent we have. Under .500 is pathetic and the team needs to wake up.

I agree with you, but not everyone shares that sentiment.

I had some exchanges going in the GD thread with some folks who were saying we have some good excuses.

I've been saying it since the beginning, but I'll keep saying it. The roster is flawed. Doesn't need to be blown up, but it needs a couple of major tweaks.

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:

JGC wrote:

JLaker17 wrote:There is no excuse losing to a team like the Magic with the talent we have. Under .500 is pathetic and the team needs to wake up.

I agree with you, but not everyone shares that sentiment.

I had some exchanges going in the GD thread with some folks who were saying we have some good excuses.

I've been saying it since the beginning, but I'll keep saying it. The roster is flawed. Doesn't need to be blown up, but it needs a couple of major tweaks.

See I don't know if I agree that the roster is flawed. They look unstoppable on some nights and then awful on others. If we were barely beating teams and then getting wrecked in the losses I would agree, but we have shown signs of being an elite team but they haven't been able to put it together consistently which is why we're 8-9. Maybe they need time for the wins to become consistent? It might be too late by that time though.

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:

JGC wrote:

JLaker17 wrote:There is no excuse losing to a team like the Magic with the talent we have. Under .500 is pathetic and the team needs to wake up.

I agree with you, but not everyone shares that sentiment.

I had some exchanges going in the GD thread with some folks who were saying we have some good excuses.

I've been saying it since the beginning, but I'll keep saying it. The roster is flawed. Doesn't need to be blown up, but it needs a couple of major tweaks.

See I don't know if I agree that the roster is flawed. They look unstoppable on some nights and then awful on others. If we were barely beating teams and then getting wrecked in the losses I would agree, but we have shown signs of being an elite team but they haven't been able to put it together consistently which is why we're 8-9. Maybe they need time for the wins to become consistent? It might be too late by that time though.