WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Doc Brown wrote:After reading what Barnes said about his time here, Mike Brown effed us over in the free agent department.

While it may be true that Brown hurt us getting Barnes I can't say it "effed" us because Matt could never stay healthy when the playoffs came. I was one of Matts biggest supporters but it didn't help he couldn't stay healthy. I am with everyone else that Mike Brown did more harm to the players with his absolute control over everything.

puffyusaf#2 wrote:

Doc Brown wrote:After reading what Barnes said about his time here, Mike Brown effed us over in the free agent department.

While it may be true that Brown hurt us getting Barnes I can't say it "effed" us because Matt could never stay healthy when the playoffs came. I was one of Matts biggest supporters but it didn't help he couldn't stay healthy. I am with everyone else that Mike Brown did more harm to the players with his absolute control over everything.

My comment wasn't really about Barnes, rather free agency and the potential players we could of had in general.

^fair enough... I do think Brown hurt us over all.

Ariza3 wrote:if we had dantoni from the offseason im sure wed have a better bench than we do now. barnes would prob be here still. might have help sessions wanting to stay. grant hill would have come here for sure.

Nash/Sessions or Blake
Kobe/Meeks
Grant/Barnes
Pau/Metta/Jamison
Dwight/Hill

bench would have been solid. f u mike brown

Grant wouldn't have came.. You didn't see his big spiel about Nash joining the Lakers & how he could never do that? Sessions didn't like the pressure that came with being expected to win a title every season. I think Glock would still be on the roster. I'm sure D'antoni would have pushed for Pietrus or someone. Roster wouldn't be that different though.

No real WMC tonight. Boys played great on both ends. It didn't really seem like Portland came to play which was a shame but we needed a game like this IMO.

There's room for Jamison to be in the rotation, it would help us in the long run, 10-12 minutes for him is 100% possible.

i didn't see 99% of the 4th, but why in the blowout win did jamison not even get in for a few minutes? was he not on the active roster? i saw earl clark on the floor in the last couple seconds.

All 12 played tonoight. Jamison wasn't even active. D'Ant has some sort of grudge going on.

Only WMC is that Kobe didn't extend his 30+ streak, he had a few good looks in the third quarter that could have done it, but oh well. Other than that it was a solid win with the Lakers looking like a properly talented basketball team.

Pig Miller wrote:i didn't see 99% of the 4th, but why in the blowout win did jamison not even get in for a few minutes? was he not on the active roster? i saw earl clark on the floor in the last couple seconds.

There's no good reason. He should have been in for Pau in the 4th, he could have used the rest as well with his recent foot issues. As for why Jamison didn't come in during garbage time, I assumed in the gameday thread that it would have been insulting to put him in then.

Edit: but now that I see Phil XI's post I see that he may have indeed been inactive, as 12 players did play, but none of us in gameday seemed to notice

Doc Brown wrote:After reading what Barnes said about his time here, Mike Brown effed us over in the free agent department.

Pretty much. It wouldn't surprise me if that's ALSO part of the reason he was canned. The idea that we lost Sessions AND Barnes for next to no reason at all has a lot to do with the coach at the time...

Time to trade Jamison.

My WMC is which team will show up next game.... That was our first blow out win of the season I believe and we have been following good games with not so good ones.... Will we be able to break the cycle and start to put together concerted efforts in a row?

Rooscooter wrote:My WMC is which team will show up next game.... That was our first blow out win of the season I believe and we have been following good games with not so good ones.... Will we be able to break the cycle and start to put together concerted efforts in a row?

I agree except for the bolded; we blew out Dallas in similar fashion on the road earlier in the season. The Denver game on November 30th also comes to mind; although, I might be mistaken with that game. Nevertheless, you're right about putting out more effort every game and developing more of a rhythm...

Lakeshow24 wrote:

Doc Brown wrote:After reading what Barnes said about his time here, Mike Brown effed us over in the free agent department.

Pretty much. It wouldn't surprise me if that's ALSO part of the reason he was canned. The idea that we lost Sessions AND Barnes for next to no reason at all has a lot to do with the coach at the time...

Sessions had much less to do with Brown and more to do with "getting an opportunity to start".

I'm sure he's content with his life, but in 30 years he'll look back on this opportunity and regret it.

therealdeal wrote:

Lakeshow24 wrote:

Doc Brown wrote:After reading what Barnes said about his time here, Mike Brown effed us over in the free agent department.

Pretty much. It wouldn't surprise me if that's ALSO part of the reason he was canned. The idea that we lost Sessions AND Barnes for next to no reason at all has a lot to do with the coach at the time...

Sessions had much less to do with Brown and more to do with "getting an opportunity to start".

I'm sure he's content with his life, but in 30 years he'll look back on this opportunity and regret it.

In 30 weeks when we're hoisting up the Larry O'Brien he'll regret it.

^ Damn straight.

i'm going to do a reverse WMC and ask that whoever officiated the portland game be present at all laker games henceforth. kobe actually got some calls; dwight was allowed block shots, guys on the other team got whistled for over the back calls...it was like the freakin' twighlight zone.

mor plz.

abeer3 wrote:i'm going to do a reverse WMC and ask that whoever officiated the portland game be present at all laker games henceforth. kobe actually got some calls; dwight was allowed block shots, guys on the other team got whistled for over the back calls...it was like the freakin' twighlight zone.

mor plz.

Actually, there was a bad call made I think at the end of the half when they pushed Pau under the basket and didn't get whistled for an over and back.

Interestingly, Kobe got the same number of FTs in the Portland game as he did in the Denver game.

dwighthowardsdad wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:My WMC is which team will show up next game.... That was our first blow out win of the season I believe and we have been following good games with not so good ones.... Will we be able to break the cycle and start to put together concerted efforts in a row?

I agree except for the bolded; we blew out Dallas in similar fashion on the road earlier in the season. The Denver game on November 30th also comes to mind; although, I might be mistaken with that game. Nevertheless, you're right about putting out more effort every game and developing more of a rhythm...

We also blew out Detroit, Golden State and Denver, all at home.

JGC wrote:

abeer3 wrote:i'm going to do a reverse WMC and ask that whoever officiated the portland game be present at all laker games henceforth. kobe actually got some calls; dwight was allowed block shots, guys on the other team got whistled for over the back calls...it was like the freakin' twighlight zone.

mor plz.

Actually, there was a bad call made I think at the end of the half when they pushed Pau under the basket and didn't get whistled for an over and back.

Interestingly, Kobe got the same number of FTs in the Portland game as he did in the Denver game.

Except that he took quite a few more shots at Denver, and he only played 3 quarters vs. Portland.

Scnottaken wrote:

JGC wrote:

abeer3 wrote:i'm going to do a reverse WMC and ask that whoever officiated the portland game be present at all laker games henceforth. kobe actually got some calls; dwight was allowed block shots, guys on the other team got whistled for over the back calls...it was like the freakin' twighlight zone.

mor plz.

Actually, there was a bad call made I think at the end of the half when they pushed Pau under the basket and didn't get whistled for an over and back.

Interestingly, Kobe got the same number of FTs in the Portland game as he did in the Denver game.

Except that he took quite a few more shots at Denver, and he only played 3 quarters vs. Portland.

True, but we played at home AND the team was a lot more aggressive from the very start of the game. So I figure that kind of offsets that.

Playing sluggishly on the road isn't a great strategy if the whistle is what you want.

Finwë wrote:

dwighthowardsdad wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:My WMC is which team will show up next game.... That was our first blow out win of the season I believe and we have been following good games with not so good ones.... Will we be able to break the cycle and start to put together concerted efforts in a row?

I agree except for the bolded; we blew out Dallas in similar fashion on the road earlier in the season. The Denver game on November 30th also comes to mind; although, I might be mistaken with that game. Nevertheless, you're right about putting out more effort every game and developing more of a rhythm...

We also blew out Detroit, Golden State and Denver, all at home.

This is true.... I guess I was thinking of a blow out in the sense that we rested the starters for the 4th quarter.... In those other "blow outs" Kobe logged his usual minute total in all but one of them.

Rooscooter wrote:

Finwë wrote:

dwighthowardsdad wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:My WMC is which team will show up next game.... That was our first blow out win of the season I believe and we have been following good games with not so good ones.... Will we be able to break the cycle and start to put together concerted efforts in a row?

I agree except for the bolded; we blew out Dallas in similar fashion on the road earlier in the season. The Denver game on November 30th also comes to mind; although, I might be mistaken with that game. Nevertheless, you're right about putting out more effort every game and developing more of a rhythm...

We also blew out Detroit, Golden State and Denver, all at home.

This is true.... I guess I was thinking of a blow out in the sense that we rested the starters for the 4th quarter.... In those other "blow outs" Kobe logged his usual minute total in all but one of them.

True. I remember the one against Detroit lol as soon as the lead was lower than 25 or 20 Brown was already putting Kobe and Dwight in. He was just desesperate at that point

They keep waiting until the end of the game to wake up and actually try out there. Sad.

WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE TO SUB .500 TEAMS AT HOME. We're not making the playoffs like that.

Need more urgency.