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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:18 pm

Uncle Drew wrote:And you are like some kind of saint or what??
Yes i called Jack bandwagon fan so what? Screw that guy, he won't help us getting to playoffs, it was just funny to me how he can't stand losing like a man and sit there to the end of a game.
Wait thursday when Heat come @Staples, Jack will walk out at halftime :man10:


Not if Morris is locking Lebron down
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby pound4pound1 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:24 pm

watching this team is a disgrace
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:25 pm

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Doc Brown wrote:JVG was speaking the truth last night, maybe the Lakers FO can bring him in as a special guest speaker, so that he can tell all the children on our team how they should be playing.

I've read that a lot. What was he saying? I didn't get to watch the game.


I'll try to keep it brief and hit on the main points....

Main point - Too many players on our team are pouting if they don't get theirs on offense and it's reflecting in our defense.

Other points ....
1.) He emphasized what Clark/Sacre were doing. They just went out and worked hard, gave 100% energy and didn't care about shots or where they would like to be on the court. They just played hard and did what they were supposed to do (To the best of their abilities) on both ends of the court.

2.) D12/Pau should be taking notes on the above because too often they are talking about what they want and not giving the team what they need and that's 100% regardless of how many shots you are getting.

3.) D12 shouldn't be taking veiled shots at Kobe in the media, he needs to be a man, hash it out in the locker room and take responsibility for his actions on the court.

Basically just calling out the players for being babies and the childish reasons that they are not giving 100% on both ends of the court, even though guys 13/14/15 on our roster have half the skill and are busting their a** because they want to win and not because they are playing for stats.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:39 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
Punk-101 wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:JVG was speaking the truth last night, maybe the Lakers FO can bring him in as a special guest speaker, so that he can tell all the children on our team how they should be playing.

I've read that a lot. What was he saying? I didn't get to watch the game.


I'll try to keep it brief and hit on the main points....

Main point - Too many players on our team are pouting if they don't get theirs on offense and it's reflecting in our defense.

Other points ....
1.) He emphasized what Clark/Sacre were doing. They just went out and worked hard, gave 100% energy and didn't care about shots or where they would like to be on the court. They just played hard and did what they were supposed to do (To the best of their abilities) on both ends of the court.

2.) D12/Pau should be taking notes on the above because too often they are talking about what they want and not giving the team what they need and that's 100% regardless of how many shots you are getting.

3.) D12 shouldn't be taking veiled shots at Kobe in the media, he needs to be a man, hash it out in the locker room and take responsibility for his actions on the court.

Basically just calling out the players for being babies and the childish reasons that they are not giving 100% on both ends of the court, even though guys 13/14/15 on our roster have half the skill and are busting their a** because they want to win and not because they are playing for stats.


and Kobe has to play better off the ball D and sacrifies some shots too ...
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Punk-101 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:34 pm

Much obliged, doc.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Ariza3 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:40 pm

Matt Barnes

11.2 pts - highest of his entire career (prev high - 10.2 PHX)
1.0 blk - highest of his entire career (prev high - 0.8 LAL)
1.3 stl - highest of his entire career (prev high - 1.0 GSW)

36.0% 3PT - 2nd highest of his entire career (highest - 36.6% GSW)
49.5% FG - 2nd highest of his entire career (highest - 53.6% PHX BUT only 3PPG @ 10.8 MPG)

this guy plus a solid pointguard (aka Nash) is amazing as a backup. why did we let him go??? so stupid of jim buss especially since we didnt even have a real backup SF bc Ebanks is still unproven and now not even playing. ugh! :disagree:
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:52 pm

Ariza3 wrote:Matt Barnes

11.2 pts - highest of his entire career (prev high - 10.2 PHX)
1.0 blk - highest of his entire career (prev high - 0.8 LAL)
1.3 stl - highest of his entire career (prev high - 1.0 GSW)

36.0% 3PT - 2nd highest of his entire career (highest - 36.6% GSW)
49.5% FG - 2nd highest of his entire career (highest - 53.6% PHX BUT only 3PPG @ 10.8 MPG)

this guy plus a solid pointguard (aka Nash) is amazing as a backup. why did we let him go??? so stupid of jim buss especially since we didnt even have a real backup SF bc Ebanks is still unproven and now not even playing. ugh! :disagree:


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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby The Original 81 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:41 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:watching this team is a disgrace


This. Just pathetic, I expect us to lose every single game. I forgot what it felt like for us to win a game...
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Ariza3 on Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:02 pm

even if we win one by sheer luck we lose the next few. and repeat.

but i have faith that from now on it'll get better. we need pau back and dwight and maybe sign martin or delonte which would be smart now before its too late, but either way i think this team will do better. i have to believe that
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby TheOp on Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:39 pm

Ariza3 wrote:even if we win one by sheer luck we lose the next few. and repeat.

but i have faith that from now on it'll get better. we need pau back and dwight and maybe sign martin or delonte which would be smart now before its too late, but either way i think this team will do better. i have to believe that


Even if they win 65 % of their games the rest of the way, its still not enough to make the playoffs.

This team has to be really really dominant the rest of the way. Like 95' Bulls dominant.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby JGC on Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:30 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
Punk-101 wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:JVG was speaking the truth last night, maybe the Lakers FO can bring him in as a special guest speaker, so that he can tell all the children on our team how they should be playing.

I've read that a lot. What was he saying? I didn't get to watch the game.


I'll try to keep it brief and hit on the main points....

Main point - Too many players on our team are pouting if they don't get theirs on offense and it's reflecting in our defense.

Other points ....
1.) He emphasized what Clark/Sacre were doing. They just went out and worked hard, gave 100% energy and didn't care about shots or where they would like to be on the court. They just played hard and did what they were supposed to do (To the best of their abilities) on both ends of the court.

2.) D12/Pau should be taking notes on the above because too often they are talking about what they want and not giving the team what they need and that's 100% regardless of how many shots you are getting.

3.) D12 shouldn't be taking veiled shots at Kobe in the media, he needs to be a man, hash it out in the locker room and take responsibility for his actions on the court.

Basically just calling out the players for being babies and the childish reasons that they are not giving 100% on both ends of the court, even though guys 13/14/15 on our roster have half the skill and are busting their a** because they want to win and not because they are playing for stats.


One point JVG brought up that was missed here...

4) He said that Kobe needs to sacrifice some of his shots to get D12 the ball more because getting the ball is important to D12. I thought that was a good point. JVG did say that Kobe has been scoring efficiently, but even when he's making them, he's got to give some of them back to keep D12's head in the game so to speak.

I'm sure we'll see a lot of eyes rolling on that comment and surely there was a reason why it wasn't listed here, but, it makes a lot of sense. I think that's a point a lot of people miss when the discussion of Kobe's shot totals comes up. It's not always about how efficiently he shot, it's about how high shot volumes can impact a team especially on a team with players who do care about having the ball.

If someone else on the team meant Kobe only shot the ball 7 times per game I'm pretty sure he'd be pissed about it too.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Armani on Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:58 pm

JVG is right on all points... he's a knowledgeable guy, really understands basketball. Was a pretty good coach for the Rockets, too.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:19 am

JGC wrote:I'm sure we'll see a lot of eyes rolling on that comment and surely there was a reason why it wasn't listed here, but, it makes a lot of sense.


Maybe there wasn't a reason. Maybe, just maybe, I forgot that JVG said that because I was going from memory.

You could of just added JVG's comment in, but in typical JGC fashion, the post has been twisted to invoke an argument over something that isn't really there.

Here how about some practice....

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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby flipmeister on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:16 am

Uncle Drew wrote:And you are like some kind of saint or what??
Yes i called Jack bandwagon fan so what? Screw that guy, he won't help us getting to playoffs, it was just funny to me how he can't stand losing like a man and sit there to the end of a game.
Wait thursday when Heat come @Staples, Jack will walk out at halftime :man10:

The guy even arranges his filming schedule so that he can watch each game, If he walks out, they deserved it
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Congo Cash on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:00 am

Wow, calling Jack Nicholson a bandwagon, I have seen it all...
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby borri on Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:58 pm

Oh boy, the reaction in this thread if we lose tonight............yikes!
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby laker911 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:03 pm

What if we hired Jeff Van Gundy instead? Do you guys think he would have done a good job?
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Magic Skywalker on Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:09 pm

JVG and Dwight would be hilarious... but I don't know if it would be good for the team.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby pound4pound1 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:10 pm

borri wrote:Oh boy, the reaction in this thread if we lose tonight............yikes!



a home loss to the Cavs who are without Varejao?


its gonna be brutal
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby dj vitus on Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:31 pm

TheOp wrote:
Ariza3 wrote:even if we win one by sheer luck we lose the next few. and repeat.

but i have faith that from now on it'll get better. we need pau back and dwight and maybe sign martin or delonte which would be smart now before its too late, but either way i think this team will do better. i have to believe that


Even if they win 65 % of their games the rest of the way, its still not enough to make the playoffs.

This team has to be really really dominant the rest of the way. Like 95' Bulls dominant.

Yeah, we need to win about 70% the rest of the way to get to about 47 wins on the year.

It's more likely that players are gonna quit and go, "Well, it's just one of those years..." :man5:
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby JGC on Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:05 pm

The 70% mark is only if the lower seed teams continue at their current pace. If they do, I believe we would need 48 wins since Houston could own the tiebreaker on us since they have won 2 of 3 this season.

I dont know when the last time to make 8th seed was with 47 wins or more but its been a while so really, based on the past 45 should be enough. Based on current pace, 48. Doesn't sound like much but thats a lot when you only have like 40 something games left.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:38 pm

its sad that im excited that we were able to beat the 2nd worst team in the league
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby escobar8 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:48 pm

nothing to wmc except for so many TOs...that kind of game will cost us against better,faster teams
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:54 pm

I hope they build from this win, it's not the fact that they won, it's how they won that should be a confidence booster for the entire team. I want to see some inspired basketball from here on out.
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Re: WMC 12/13: What's a 3-pointer? (15-21)

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:56 pm

I think they might lose to the Bucks lol
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