WMC 12/13: Mercy kill. (0-4)

Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:32 am

Well at least now we have ZERO expectations left for the season ...

I wish the Lakers PR would stop BSing with the one week thing though ... everybody knows D12 will be out for at least one month
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby Finwë on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:22 am

It's really starting to hit me: "We'll probably MISS the playoffs". Wow. I just can't believe this is happening. Things were already looking horribad for us and now THIS happens. Our THREE BEST BIGS are injured, and being 6 games below .500 is extremely plausible.

I don't think many will point out to injuries if/when we miss the playoffs. And they shouldn't. Despite our TERRIBLE luck, health is simply not enough of an excuse. This team was meant to do great things, and failed (so far) miserably. Our failure was partially caused by injuries, but the truth is most of it has to do with actual mediocre basketball performance. Issues have crept out from all over the place, in various forms.
This could end up being one of the most embarrassing seasons in the history of sports. The most expensive roster, 4 potential HOF players, a former all-star and defensive player of the year, a couple of valuable bench guys, and we are out of the playoff picture (as it stands).

I just can't believe this is where we're at.

Hopefully a miracle happens and somehow we find ways to win games, our guys get healthy, we finally gel and all of the sudden become something similar to what was expected from us since the beginning.
But I just don't see it.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby KBJelleyBean24 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:28 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:WMC: Did we piss off the Devil or Jesus? I mean this is getting depressing.

We pissed off the Basketball Gods with our blasphemous superteam. Now we must sacrifice someone. I nominate Pau :man11: :man12:
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby MC on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:50 am

Finwë wrote: Issues have crept out from all over the place, in various forms.


has it really or is the same problem since this FO changes philosophies

2 different coaches but TOs, no off ball player movement and long rebounds seem to be a very consistent thing to me..............

The Lakers, not only this year but for a long time, have always struggles with transitional basketball........ but this new philosophy FO has taken since Jackson left has drove the Lakers team straight into their weaknesses and pumped it up with steroids..... Brown actually got it right to start pre-season this year by going to the Princeton..... certain member(s) in the front office are dead set at getting it wrong though and used a quick trigger and some early struggles (that were expected early learning a new offense) as an excuse to go right back to the wrong style of play which tells me they never were fully behind the change to the Princeton to start with......

D-Y-S-F-U-N-C-T-I-O-N-A-L........... very bi-polar "ish"........
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby LakerBoyz24 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:02 am

The way this team is structured is the original problem. They did the New York Knicks style of reasoning where they filled up the roster top heavy with big names without thinking how it will all fit. And it came to bite us back and will continue to, just as Knicks are now stuck with the failed experiment of Carmelo Anthony and Amare Stoudemire. Kobeball makes it very hard for most of this roster to maximize their potential, and if you were going to allow full out Kobe ball(with Kobe as the sole #1 option taking 20-30+ shots a game) and no teamball, then you have to build the roster as such.

Some of the problems are glaring problems that we already seen. It's just I guess the Lakers organization thought with a different player it would just magically fix itself. We already saw from Bynum that Pau Gasol(who is pretty much a C himself at this point in his career and works best played as the sole C) cannot coexist with a real 5 that operates in his paint area, and that limits Gasol into a jumpshooting stretch 4. They basically took the exact same player like Bynum, and upgraded his defensive skills/athleticism(with less of a post game and no jump shot whatsoever) in Howard and hoped that it'll work out. No.

Bringing Nash over when defense is a problem(not offense) and we're running Kobeball to the point where Nash is delegated to being another Derrick Fisher bringing the ball up just to feed it to Kobe, was, well, expected to happen if you're going to be reliant on Kobeball. There's only so many touches to go around with Kobe taking 30 shots a game, so if you're going to play this style, you have to build your roster as such with players that fit Kobe and not big star names to just plug into the roster hoping it'll work. The Lakers organization made the biggest mistake of them all; this is not fantasy basketball and a team that looks good on paper doesn't always look great in real life. They hoped by plugging in big name stars (ala Knicks with Amare/Carmelo/Chandler) that they'll be good while failing to see how it might not work out in real life.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby themasterphil on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:11 am

When i see our players on the court, when i see them on postgame conf, when I see that pic of Kobe and Dwight I have a feeling that they are not worried at all about this situations....the Q is why??? its maybe that they dont care or maybe think they can make some great run of 15-20 games and make things right.....
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:17 pm

they have no defensive identity and cant manufacture a stop at any critical point in a game. you can pretty much count on a loss if theyre losing with 2 minutes left in the game.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby noobiew on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:24 pm

6th straight loss with the coming SAS and OKC games baby
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby raviator on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:25 pm

Man they might not win a game for...a while!
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Postby phoenixrisingla on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:25 pm

We're in big trouble on this road trip.

I dont feel like we're moving in the right direction even.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby lakersyunowin on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:25 pm

of all the seasons to miss the playoffs (if we do), this one would really really sting.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:26 pm

layup drill pretty much expected, I :man10: when I see Metta/Kobe just lose their man all together and force a rookie 2nder to cover for them and think how anyone can think these guys are good defenders. Whole team are bad on defense minus the absent guys (Pau no included :man10: )
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:27 pm

Done.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby noobiew on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:27 pm

15-21 here we come !

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Postby cthroatgtr on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:30 pm

What did Ebanks do? I mean if you don't play in this game...deep deep in the doghouse.
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Postby Pig Miller on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:31 pm

the guys played hard, that's about all you can say of this game. expecting any more is just ludicrous.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby thisbjgz on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:31 pm

Everyone in the coaching staff, assistants, mda.

Kobe, Nash, metta,... To the rest of the team.

This team plays zero defense(Kobes opposition never fails to score 20+ against us, tonight delfino, parsons, Douglas each took turns) Jamison made us remember why He was a DNP. Dude got no legs. Sacre and Clark is still raw and fouls too much. Meeks can't hit a wide open 3 and often rushes into a contested 3 anyway. Kobe taking it upon himself knowing he was outta gas anyway. Pringles preaching no defense, bench players all look disinterested(Ebanks) I can go on. This team sucks.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby odom1year on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:32 pm

Hope we can destroy old and slow Spurs.
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Postby noobiew on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:32 pm

If the Houston can scored 125 point on us, SAS and OKC are gonna score 130 and 140 points against us.

This team is a joke! :bang:
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby 432J on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:32 pm

cthroatgtr wrote:What did Ebanks do? I mean if you don't play in this game...deep deep in the doghouse.

thank god he didn't play

he's garbage and so is this pathetic team
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby Ariza3 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:33 pm

open layup after open 3 followed up sacre fouling on an and-1.

that was the game. how do you leave delfino wide open 5 times aswell as all there other teammates. no paint presence really killed us as well as kobe having an off night.

we didnt get really that many called but a ton called against us. earl clark got fouled a ton of times as well as kobe on jumpshots.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby Big Mamma Jamma on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:38 pm

I'm not all torn up by what I am seeing this season ... if losing means that the front office will make changes that frankly needed to be done a couple of seasons ago I am all for it. The Lakers need a youth infusion! It's tough to watch them lose but this is the new NBA ... young and athletic is the blueprint for success.

Mitch needs to start looking at a partial rebuild with youth.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby Ariza3 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:40 pm

done for the season unless we win against he spurs and okc which will NOT happen when half the guys out there should be in the dleague and have never played together.
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:41 pm

cthroatgtr wrote:What did Ebanks do? I mean if you don't play in this game...deep deep in the doghouse.


What ever it is I approve of it..... :man1:

I saw 2/3 of a game with high energy and effort followed a loss of energy and tired legs.

Living by the 3 and too many long rebounds that turned into transition opportunities. Add in the fact that we were tired most of the 3rd and 4th quarters and we get what we got....

Can't be too upset with this one.... guys like Sacre and Clark played over their heads actually and Jamison made a few shots with is pretty good for a guy that's a rhythm shooter and hasn't had a chance to play. Even Morris wasn't complete trash tonight....
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Re: WMC 12/13: OK, so who do we blame now? (15-18)

Postby Punk-101 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:48 pm

Every Rocket but two shot over 50%fg and those two were 4/5 and 1/3.
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