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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby Legendary on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:08 pm

Stafford? Dude needs to be investigated. Ridiculous call. Even in real-time you could see the ball was off of Anthony's hand. But this guy makes the same absurd call AFTER REVIEWING THE PLAY. What...in...the...F***!
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby borri on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:21 pm

WMC:

It took a 5 game winning streak to get back to .500. :freak2:
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby lakersyunowin on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:22 pm

f*** those refs...that replay call made me so upset and then the BS 6th foul on metta
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby DarthRekal on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:25 pm

its a CHRISTMAS MIRACLE :jam2:
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:26 pm

Refs were utter garbage. Another epic win, though! I could get used to this winning stuff. Nash is so freaking great. Also slight WMC, we need to knock down those open looks from outside. If we do we win that game by double digits.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:27 pm

Weezy wrote:Refs, seriously, f*** these refs. That was some of the most rigged crap I've ever seen, they tried so hard to make this game come down to the last shot and we still won and were having none of it. How in the hell do you get an out of bounds call wrong AFTER you spend 2 minutes looking at the replay? And some of those calls on MWP, you gotta be kidding me, what a joke. They tried to take over the game in the end after letting them play most of it, we should never talk about the refs if they do their job and call it fair for both sides, but that was not what happened today.


Agreed.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:35 pm

D12 needs to be more involved offensively ... was pretty much treated like a bench guy through the 1st 3 quarters
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby Punk-101 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:35 pm

Legendary wrote:Stafford? Dude needs to be investigated. Ridiculous call. Even in real-time you could see the ball was off of Anthony's hand. But this guy makes the same absurd call AFTER REVIEWING THE PLAY. What...in...the...F***!

Melo and Kobe's hands were pretty close (not really, but let's throw them a bone) so i can understand the confusion, but what about melo's right thumb?
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby Damian Necronamous on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:38 pm

I don't care as much about Dwight's offense as I do Pau's. We NEED Pau to score 16-18ppg on this team and get back to creating in the low post. I'm hoping that dunk sparks his confidence.

What I want to see from Howard is just consistent dominance on defense. We can win with Dwight scoring 15ppg - we just need him to be pulling down ~15 boards and changing all kinds of shots in the lane.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:38 pm

WMC: the officiating against the Lakers. This has been a tragedy all year.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby JGC on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:42 pm

Lakerjones wrote:
Weezy wrote:Refs, seriously, f*** these refs. That was some of the most rigged crap I've ever seen, they tried so hard to make this game come down to the last shot and we still won and were having none of it. How in the hell do you get an out of bounds call wrong AFTER you spend 2 minutes looking at the replay? And some of those calls on MWP, you gotta be kidding me, what a joke. They tried to take over the game in the end after letting them play most of it, we should never talk about the refs if they do their job and call it fair for both sides, but that was not what happened today.


Agreed.


Seconded. (Except for the rigged part).
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby LakerFan1235 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:44 pm

As everyone else has said, the officiating was down right disgusting. I have seen some terrible calls in the 13 years I have been watching the Lakers, but that reviewed out of bounds call has to be top 5. Just retarded.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby nthydro on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:49 pm

The calls down the stretch were atrocious. Even after reviewing the call they still gave the ball to the Knicks? If anything it should've been a jump ball. And that "foul" on Metta, I don't even think he touched him. Then that play where Gasol made the dunk, he clearly got hit by Kidd and Melo. This would've been a tough one to lose.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby raviator on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:51 pm

borri wrote:WMC:

It took a 5 game winning streak to get back to .500. :freak2:


should be at least 2 or 3 over, but I'll still take it
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby Weezy on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:53 pm

JGC wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:
Weezy wrote:Refs, seriously, f*** these refs. That was some of the most rigged crap I've ever seen, they tried so hard to make this game come down to the last shot and we still won and were having none of it. How in the hell do you get an out of bounds call wrong AFTER you spend 2 minutes looking at the replay? And some of those calls on MWP, you gotta be kidding me, what a joke. They tried to take over the game in the end after letting them play most of it, we should never talk about the refs if they do their job and call it fair for both sides, but that was not what happened today.


Agreed.


Seconded. (Except for the rigged part).


Well what other word do you use for wrong/bad calls being made on purpose to keep a game close for TV? Looking at a replay to get the call right and STILL getting it wrong? Anyone can see that's rigging going on, Kobe was in disbelief that they looked at it and still called it wrong. And those phantom fouls to get Ron out of the game? Wow. I'm not saying the refs were trying to make one team or another win, just that they were trying to make it a last possession game, makes for great Christmas day tv.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby Scnottaken on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:54 pm

I just noticed. The way Anthony was trying to get space was the same way Dwight was trying to get space last game during the 1Q. One was ruled an offensive foul, the other gets rewarded with an undeserved possession. Seems legit.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:56 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:WMC: the officiating against the Lakers. This has been a tragedy all year.


The last two games have seemed even more terrible than usual. It seems like they are literally trying to handicap us. Sucks.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby StudentOfTheGame on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:02 pm

Here for the obligatory WMC on minutes.

Hopefully this team can get into a better place in the standings and allow MDA to dish out some more minutes to the bench.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby charvin on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:07 pm

StudentOfTheGame wrote:Here for the obligatory WMC on minutes.

Hopefully this team can get into a better place in the standings and allow MDA to dish out some more minutes to the bench.


I was worried about the minutes. I could understand it against GS because you had 3 days before playing NY. Now, they have a game tomorrow, not to mention it's at Denver...
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby gcclaker on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:08 pm

As an aside...not feeling the ABC crew of Wilbon, Johnson, Rose and that fourth guy.
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Re: WMC 12/13: Four in a NASH! (13-14)

Postby JGC on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:08 pm

Weezy wrote:
JGC wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:
Weezy wrote:Refs, seriously, f*** these refs. That was some of the most rigged crap I've ever seen, they tried so hard to make this game come down to the last shot and we still won and were having none of it. How in the hell do you get an out of bounds call wrong AFTER you spend 2 minutes looking at the replay? And some of those calls on MWP, you gotta be kidding me, what a joke. They tried to take over the game in the end after letting them play most of it, we should never talk about the refs if they do their job and call it fair for both sides, but that was not what happened today.


Agreed.


Seconded. (Except for the rigged part).


Well what other word do you use for wrong/bad calls being made on purpose to keep a game close for TV? Looking at a replay to get the call right and STILL getting it wrong? Anyone can see that's rigging going on, Kobe was in disbelief that they looked at it and still called it wrong. And those phantom fouls to get Ron out of the game? Wow. I'm not saying the refs were trying to make one team or another win, just that they were trying to make it a last possession game, makes for great Christmas day tv.


I use two words. Poor officiating. I mean, if you could prove that the calls were made incorrectly on purpose then I would use the word rig. But they could have done some other things on subsequent (or prior) plays to keep it even closer and they didn't. For instance, they could have called a foul on Howard when he stole the ball on the play after the horrific review.

The calls were horrendous today, really bad, but, that is all they were.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby Weezy on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:15 pm

So calling a play incorrectly after viewing it for 2 minutes on replay and seeing what the right call was is not make an incorrect call on purpose? Eh, I don't see it that way, but I don't really want to argue after a great win like this, in the end we agree the refs were terrible, on purpose or not.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby jOeyB7000 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:22 pm

I would usually complain about the amount of minutes Kobe is playing, but sometimes during really important games it's necessary for your star players to do some heavy lifting. Today's game was one of those games.

I still don't like that in the previous 3-4 games before today's game that D'Antoni played him heavy minutes, and he absolutely has to get him some rest in the 2nd half of games now. We have Nash back now who is actually better at orchestrating this offense than Kobe is so there's no excuse to not rest Kobe more.
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Re: WMC 12/13: And NYK make FIVE (14-14)

Postby Uncle_Meat on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:45 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:

How obvious does 'fix' have to be. Was this point shaving? Who was favored in Las Vegas? You do the math.
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