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Postby Chillbongo on Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:01 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Jordan got 30+ million in his last two years in Chicago because he got paid mini-MLE money for his first 9 years there.


It's actually kind of amazing how NBA salaries (money in general, actually) inflated ridiculous amounts during the 2000's.

I don't feel bad for Jordan for making a few million through most of his career because between Nike, Hanes, McDonalds and his Jordan line.....he made BILLIONS.
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Postby Scnottaken on Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:58 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:Jordan got 30+ million in his last two years in Chicago because he got paid mini-MLE money for his first 9 years there.


It's actually kind of amazing how NBA salaries (money in general, actually) inflated ridiculous amounts during the 2000's.

I don't feel bad for Jordan for making a few million through most of his career because between Nike, Hanes, McDonalds and his Jordan line.....he made BILLIONS.

What was the salary cap back then? Did he consume the whole thing himself?
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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:50 pm

scheven wrote:Oh, and

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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:29 pm

Scnottaken wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:Jordan got 30+ million in his last two years in Chicago because he got paid mini-MLE money for his first 9 years there.


It's actually kind of amazing how NBA salaries (money in general, actually) inflated ridiculous amounts during the 2000's.

I don't feel bad for Jordan for making a few million through most of his career because between Nike, Hanes, McDonalds and his Jordan line.....he made BILLIONS.

What was the salary cap back then? Did he consume the whole thing himself?


both the years that MJ made $30+ mil, the salary cap was less than $27 mil. the bulls had the highest salary in the league both years. his salary alone was higher than more than half of the teams total salaries in the league.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby OX1947 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:15 pm

scheven wrote:All signs point to Kobe retiring after his contract is up. If you think Kobe will take a paycut like KG/Duncan then you're delusional. He has always said in the past it's up to the team to make the salaries work. MJ got 33m in his final season with the Bulls so I don't see Kobe taking anything less than 20m. The Lakers org would probably join the 2014 FA chase, and giving Kobe a 1 year contract over 20m will prevent that from happening (assuming we are able to retain Howard). It will be a mutual decision between the Lakers and Kobe in the end, I think.

Speaking of Howard, I think one of Kobe's selling point to him would be handing the keys over to D12 after next season. I think Dwight stays in the end. He might not like Pringles but if next season becomes another failure he'll get fired for sure.

All this talk from him about losing passion for the game and wanting to spend more time with family, finding a new passion, being content with his career accomplishments, not sticking around averaging 19 ppg, point to Kobe retiring after next season. Better start savoring each game he plays next season because I think it will be his last.


Spending time with family is nice and all, but the 12th time eating at Chuck E Cheese would get old. Especially when kids start hanging with their friends and going to school. Kobe isnt the type to go smoke cigars in clubs and play golf like MJ. He will get bored and if he thinks he can still ball, he will want to play.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:05 am

Kobe Bryant glimpses retirement

Kobe Bryant had a film session last week, only this time he found himself turning off Dr. James Naismith's game to watch Dr. Seuss.

"I tried watching a game," Bryant told me Monday in a sit-down interview. "I tried watching Miami-Indiana, Game 3 maybe or Game 4, I can't really remember, but I'm sitting in bed, I'm watching it. My kids jump in the bed, I'm sitting there watching the game and they're like, 'Hey, we want to watch 'The Lorax.' Can we watch 'The Lorax'? I was like, 'No, I'm watching the … yeah, what the hell. Why not? Yeah, sure. What am I watching this for anyway? Yeah, let's watch 'The Lorax.'"

Instead of tuning into LeBron James playing basketball with ease, Bryant chose to watch the little furry guy who speaks for the trees.

Yup, this is as close to retirement as Bryant has ever been.

And he seems to be just fine with that.

"I'm limited as to what I can do," Bryant said, laughing when I referred to retirement as the R-word, rather than scolding me for bringing up the subject as he might have done in the past. "I can't train. I can't get after it. When you retire, I'm assuming there's no incentive to push yourself as hard as you've been pushing yourself physically, so, you have to start focusing on other things.

"But to be honest with you man, I love the game, but there's something about lying in the bed or sitting on the couch and watching a kid's movie that's just much more enjoyable."

Bryant turns 35 in August. The birthday will officially push his lifetime score to NBA Player 18 (years), Regular Guy 17. At least for now, his torn Achilles means more time to spend with his daughters -- 10-year-old Natalia and 7-year-old Gianna -- and more time to ponder what he's going to do when there isn't a next season to prepare for or next game to play.

"It's still a moving target," Bryant said. "I think for me it's about finding something that you're equally as passionate about, that you can really sit down and do on a daily basis. But finding that is half the battle."

He's taught himself piano in the past year, but cracked up at the idea of him leaving basketball to become a concert pianist. If his Twitter timeline is any indication, the advertising world has Bryant's attention. He's also taken up the cause to eradicate homelessness in Los Angeles. And ever since his youth, when he was an American boy living in Italy, he's had a keen interest in fostering relationships across cultural boundaries and could pursue that in some capacity.

"It's about finding what that next challenge is going to be and then being able to go for it," Bryant said. "Being in this position, I'm pretty fortunate to be able to pick up the phone and talk to some of the people who are the best in their respective fields and just try to learn as much as I can."

Who are those people?

"You know I always keep those mentors secret, man," Bryant said. "They're all considered chief Buddhas to me."

While Bryant is privileged enough to be able seek counsel from pretty much whomever he chooses, he knows that trial and error is just as important in the growth process -- just as it was for his basketball career.

"It's crazy when you go through life and you go through kind of tip-toeing and being afraid to make mistakes or whatever, you really don't learn anything and you don't experience anything," Bryant said. "I've really experienced life to the fullest in trying to figure how to lead, how not to lead and how to follow and all this sort of stuff. You only can do that just by putting yourself out there and making mistakes and trying to figure it out as you go."

This summer will be a taste of the post-NBA life that Bryant will resume sooner rather than later. Will it be one more season before he's retired for good? Two?

His game will tell him when it's time to go. However, as long as he's under contract, he is going to do everything he can to represent the Los Angeles Lakers' purple and gold and all that it stands for. Bryant, a New York Yankees fan, was able to draw a comparison to Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter in the twilight of their careers.

"These guys really try to figure out everything that they can do to make sure they're playing at a top level, or, if they're not, then why play? You're doing a disservice to this great organization," Bryant said.

The man still measures himself as Kobe Bryant, basketball player, but the search for a new title is in full thrust.

"Now you start looking at what the future is going to be post your NBA career -- things that you can focus on, things that you can acclimate yourself to -- and you start looking at that as a challenge a little bit," Bryant said.

But before Bryant gets totally engulfed in that next challenge, don't be surprised if he sits back and watches "Horton Hears a Who!" with his daughters.


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9341795/kobe-bryant-gets-glimpse-retirement-heals-injury

Guys, retirement for Kobe has never been closer to Kobe than it is now. It's not down the street like Kobe himself has said before, it's right around the corner.......

Also..... check this out, pretty insightful stuff right here for next year:

Kobe looking to be more of a facilitator next year

“You have to be able to adapt. During this last season, I was able to find areas to adjust my game to help us win, in terms of being more of an assist guy. You got to pick up certain areas and a lot of it depends on just the team that you have and the guys that you have around you. I’m more than comfortable just sitting back and scoring 21, 22 points or whatever and getting 10, 11 assists whatever the case might be. More than comfortable with that. It’s just a matter of the pieces that you have around you and what you can do to elevate everybody else.”


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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:20 am

Well that interview with Mcmenamin was not at all what I thought it would be.
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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby XXIV on Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:58 am

In reference to a more facilitator role in the future, imagine if he averaged say 20 & 9/10 ast throughout the course of next season. Going from averaging 35+ points in a season to averaging double digits in assist in his "twilight" years, that would be really great to watch.
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Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:20 am

Well, if he's going to take on a facilitator role, I'm expecting his "last words" to Dwight is going to be...

"Okay Dwight. This is your team now. I can't push myself as I could anymore, I'm 35. I'll step back my game and only do it when I need to. But I will MAKE SURE you're the center point on offense no matter what MDA says. Me and Steve will make that a point.

You go to Houston you'll have to share the ball between Harden, Parsons, Lin? Not gonna happen with young guys who want the rock."
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:27 am

lakerfan2 wrote:Well, if he's going to take on a facilitator role, I'm expecting his "last words" to Dwight is going to be...

"Okay Dwight. This is your team now. I can't push myself as I could anymore, I'm 35. I'll step back my game and only do it when I need to. But I will MAKE SURE you're the center point on offense no matter what MDA says. Me and Steve will make that a point.

You go to Houston you'll have to share the ball between Harden, Parsons, Lin? Not gonna happen with young guys who want the rock."

Followed by:
"Then after me and Steve are done, you get to recruit whoever you want to LA. It's yours and it's your decision. The Lakers will do everything they can to bring you here.

Not to mention in LA you get to be in Hollywood. You get to be by the most beautiful beach spots on the West Coast. You get to be a part of the most storied franchise in the NBA. This is the star life. This is what you always wanted. Bring yourself hard every game like we all know you can and LA will embrace you."
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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:04 pm

therealdeal wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Well, if he's going to take on a facilitator role, I'm expecting his "last words" to Dwight is going to be...

"Okay Dwight. This is your team now. I can't push myself as I could anymore, I'm 35. I'll step back my game and only do it when I need to. But I will MAKE SURE you're the center point on offense no matter what MDA says. Me and Steve will make that a point.

You go to Houston you'll have to share the ball between Harden, Parsons, Lin? Not gonna happen with young guys who want the rock."

Followed by:
"Then after me and Steve are done, you get to recruit whoever you want to LA. It's yours and it's your decision. The Lakers will do everything they can to bring you here.

Not to mention in LA you get to be in Hollywood. You get to be by the most beautiful beach spots on the West Coast. You get to be a part of the most storied franchise in the NBA. This is the star life. This is what you always wanted. Bring yourself hard every game like we all know you can and LA will embrace you."


The Kobe part is believable... the rest sounds like a Harlequen Romance Novel...... :man12:
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Postby Doc Brown on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:36 pm

"Bring yourself hard every game......"

Pause.....

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Re: Kobe Discussion: He's a Reverse-G G (669)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:17 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Well, if he's going to take on a facilitator role, I'm expecting his "last words" to Dwight is going to be...

"Okay Dwight. This is your team now. I can't push myself as I could anymore, I'm 35. I'll step back my game and only do it when I need to. But I will MAKE SURE you're the center point on offense no matter what MDA says. Me and Steve will make that a point.

You go to Houston you'll have to share the ball between Harden, Parsons, Lin? Not gonna happen with young guys who want the rock."

Followed by:
"Then after me and Steve are done, you get to recruit whoever you want to LA. It's yours and it's your decision. The Lakers will do everything they can to bring you here.

Not to mention in LA you get to be in Hollywood. You get to be by the most beautiful beach spots on the West Coast. You get to be a part of the most storied franchise in the NBA. This is the star life. This is what you always wanted. Bring yourself hard every game like we all know you can and LA will embrace you."


The Kobe part is believable... the rest sounds like a Harlequen Romance Novel...... :man12:

I have a half written romance novel under my bed actually. :man10:

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Postby Weezy on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:26 pm

Kobe said he'd be comfortable scoring 20,21 a game and getting 10, 11 assists, he didn't say he was going to change to do that. Sounded more to me like if he HAD to do that he would be ok with it, not that the will score is gone from him. I would love to see it, and maybe the injury will force it, but I will believe Kobe being an under 25 ppg scorer when I see it. :mhihi:

If he is going to be that guy the team is going to have to bring in some players that can actually score though. They need to do that anyway so he's not playing entire freaking games coming back off a torn ACL. Before I don't think he should have been doing that, now I don't think he WILL be able to do that. If Dwight stays I don't see him suddenly turning into a 28ppg scorer, so those points are going to have to come from somewhere, hopefully whoever we get for Pau.
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Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:29 pm

therealdeal wrote:
lakerfan2 wrote:Well, if he's going to take on a facilitator role, I'm expecting his "last words" to Dwight is going to be...

"Okay Dwight. This is your team now. I can't push myself as I could anymore, I'm 35. I'll step back my game and only do it when I need to. But I will MAKE SURE you're the center point on offense no matter what MDA says. Me and Steve will make that a point.

You go to Houston you'll have to share the ball between Harden, Parsons, Lin? Not gonna happen with young guys who want the rock."

Followed by:
"Then after me and Steve are done, you get to recruit whoever you want to LA. It's yours and it's your decision. The Lakers will do everything they can to bring you here.

Not to mention in LA you get to be in Hollywood. You get to be by the most beautiful beach spots on the West Coast. You get to be a part of the most storied franchise in the NBA. This is the star life. This is what you always wanted. Bring yourself hard every game like we all know you can and LA will embrace you."


Plus, "However there's 2 caveats, MoFo, you need to actually develop a real post game way beyond what you have now, and be able to hit FTs to have this work. Get your bleep to work!" :man1:
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Postby TIME on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:06 pm

therealdeal wrote:I have a half written romance novel under my bed actually. :man10:

No lie.


Kind of creeps me out that you keep it under your bed. :man12:
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Postby gcclaker on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:39 pm

TIME wrote:
therealdeal wrote:I have a half written romance novel under my bed actually. :man10:

No lie.

Kind of creeps me out that you keep it under your bed. :man12:

Nyeh...TRD just let it slip that he has a sensitive side.

Aside from the nonsense... :man1: I think Bryant will likely pattern himself after Johnson in setting up ventures in his name. The latter looked to some heavyweights in the business and entertainment world for advice. 24 probably has laid a similar groundwork with all the "Buddhas" he alluded to. I wonder if Gasol is or will be part of them since they are close. They did invest in a racehorse together.
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Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:58 pm

TIME wrote:
therealdeal wrote:I have a half written romance novel under my bed actually. :man10:

No lie.


Kind of creeps me out that you keep it under your bed. :man12:

It's a secret I'm keeping from the ball and chain because it's basically just a journal of what I wish happened. :man1:
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:38 pm

therealdeal wrote:I have a half written romance novel under my bed actually. :man10:

No lie.


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Postby tigerjeterkobe on Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:59 pm

Good stuff. Kobe saying he would like to get Dwight back and start the season where they - presumably him, Dwight, and Nash, and maybe Gasol - left offi, since they had really figured each other out and were playing well. But he also said that the FO would need to add a few pieces, some "length" and some guys who can cover ground quickly (meaning wing defenders and guys who can close out on shooters quickly, defend pick and roll, and get out in transition on offense).

Losing Gasol wouldn't help with length - but him being traded for pieces could help with the speed part.

He didn't mention getting shooters, which I found interesting.

Also interesting, he didn't pick a winner between Spurs and Heat. When asked if he was really hoping Duncan doesn't tie him with 5 rings, he said it didn't matter because he plans to finish with more than 5. Ha ha. I love this guy.

He also said that if the Spurs win another one, it would motivate his FO more to get back on top. Hmmmmmm
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Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:25 pm

Go Spurs!! Regardless.
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Postby Basketball Fan on Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:54 pm

Kobe was on Kimmel competing with that 2 year old in FTs he tied him

Did better than Shaq who got 0 baskets
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Postby shoe on Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:59 pm



dunno if this was taped before the Achilles injury, but kobe's walking pretty good.
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Postby Uncle Drew on Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:46 am

^nah, this is old video, check out date in this Kobe tweet:

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but i don't know why are they uploading it now :man3:
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