Xavier Henry Discussion: Xmin

Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:59 am

Has Xavier played his way to a better payday than a one-year, veteran's minimum deal?

Just curious what everyone thinks.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby SK8 on Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:21 am

^Definitely not veteran's minimum, but he is still going to be cheap.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Pig Miller on Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:48 pm

if we can't bring back Henry, I think Bazemore can bring as must as X brings. This assumes kobe is taking up the bulk of the minutes at the 2 next year obviously
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:00 pm

therealdeal wrote:Has Xavier played his way to a better payday than a one-year, veteran's minimum deal?

Just curious what everyone thinks.

I actually have a different question. Is Bazemore making X expendable?

I think X has played well but he also keeps getting hurt. His game is kind of reckless which lends itself to more injuries. Can he learn to play without it being costly? On the other hand I think Bazemore has shown he can get to the rack just as easy and hit the outside shot just as easy if not better without looking like an Injury is just waiting to happen.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby LakerFan1235 on Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:00 am

Blaze more making x expendable? Idk about that. I feel like Xavier can be almost as good as harden. More athletic, can get to the basket, shot is average but could be better.

X>bazemore and they're practically the same age
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:36 am

X has more upside. Great athletic body... The problem is can he finally stay healthy
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:21 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Has Xavier played his way to a better payday than a one-year, veteran's minimum deal?

Just curious what everyone thinks.

I actually have a different question. Is Bazemore making X expendable?

I think X has played well but he also keeps getting hurt. His game is kind of reckless which lends itself to more injuries. Can he learn to play without it being costly? On the other hand I think Bazemore has shown he can get to the rack just as easy and hit the outside shot just as easy if not better without looking like an Injury is just waiting to happen.

It's strange because between the two Henry is the one with the more NBA-type body (more size and strength) but he's the one hurting himself.

What's REALLY strange is the way Henry doesn't get calls. He gets to the rim at will, but gets hit almost every time and usually can't get calls.

Between the two I'd pick Henry just because I see more potential there and he's actually younger. You're right the injury thing is a little frustrating, but I still see some really solid potential in Henry. Bazemore has a real "wild horse" mentality. I like him, I think he's got solid potential to be a role player in this league BUT... He takes a lot of shots and his court vision isn't great. He's a good passer, but he doesn't really have that feel for passing on the fly. If he's driving then he's already made up his mind to either shoot it or pass it, if he sees something confusing, that's not going to change his decision.

That being said I'd love to keep both of them.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:56 am

LakerFan1235 wrote:Blaze more making x expendable? Idk about that. I feel like Xavier can be almost as good as harden. More athletic, can get to the basket, shot is average but could be better.

X>bazemore and they're practically the same age


and this was my point. Watching Bazemore play I see him doing all the things X does withou getting hurt. The part that stands out the most to me is I really like Bazemore on the defensive end. Just from seeing Baze getting more minutes I think he gets to the rim as easy as X, has a better shot and passes better. I like the both but if we are trying to trim the fat yadda yadda yadda for next year I was trying to figure which I would keep if the choice needed to be made. Is it really that cut and dry for X to you guys?
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:12 am

No it's not 100% cut and dry, but I still think he's better and if I had to pick just one I'd go with Henry.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:49 am

I'd take X over Bazegod.

Dude can ball. period. one play can energize our entire team. Plays hard and with fire all game, gets to the rim and line, and puts up numbers. Dudes got a torn ligament in his shooting wrist and is still shooting well and dunking.

Bazegod has a very similar game and maybe a step on defense but i'll take X being better overall. I just think X off the bench is more of a spark and something this team needs. Both are great players and would welcome both back as young cheap players with huge upside.

but I def want X, SwaggyP, and Farmar back next year.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby denimPortugal on Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:48 am

Ariza3 wrote:I'd take X over Bazegod.

Dude can ball. period. one play can energize our entire team. Plays hard and with fire all game, gets to the rim and line, and puts up numbers. Dudes got a torn ligament in his shooting wrist and is still shooting well and dunking.

Bazegod has a very similar game and maybe a step on defense but i'll take X being better overall. I just think X off the bench is more of a spark and something this team needs. Both are great players and would welcome both back as young cheap players with huge upside.

but I def want X, SwaggyP, and Farmar back next year.

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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby SK8 on Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:05 am

X, Hill, SwaggyP, Kelly, Farmar- Best bench in league.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby karacha on Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:12 am

Yeah, amazing bench really. Swag, X, Blaze... those are some serious wing players that can put a lot of pressure on the opposing bench. Their D isn't bad either. If we were actually focusing on defense.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:38 am

He can't stay healthy , this is one major problem ... we need guys who can play 70+ games
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:40 am

LakerFan1235 wrote:Blaze more making x expendable? Idk about that. I feel like Xavier can be almost as good as harden. More athletic, can get to the basket, shot is average but could be better.

X>bazemore and they're practically the same age


I feel like R. Kelly can be almost as good as Dirk
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby halekulani on Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:41 am

despite his athleticism and motor, bazemore is a total knucklehead

i dont think i could tolerate watching him for another 82 games let alone multiple seasons.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:11 am

karacha wrote:Yeah, amazing bench really. Swag, X, Blaze... those are some serious wing players that can put a lot of pressure on the opposing bench. Their D isn't bad either. If we were actually focusing on defense.

Yeah if we could get another great player in Los Angeles, I'd love having all of these guys back too. One real superstar like Durant or LeBron and a solid coach could have these guys in the playoffs.

Unfortunately we're only going to get a couple of these guys back. I think Nick Young has played his way into a contract that we can't afford. Henry might be close to doing that too.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:26 pm

X injured again
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:55 pm

Hopefully he grows out of these minor injuries... some players, as they mature, overcome it but for some it becomes chronic...
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:55 pm

Xavier Henry is not expected to return this season after being slowed by wrist and knee injuries. He averaged 10 points in 43 games.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketbal ... z2xsHey6A4


He's got to be coming back for cheap, he only played in half the season.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Barnstable on Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:20 pm

^That's actually a win for us IMO.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:41 am

^Not if he can't stay healthy. We have old guys who break we don't need young ones too. That's why I asked the question about Bazemore earlier in the thread
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Barnstable on Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:16 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:^Not if he can't stay healthy. We have old guys who break we don't need young ones too. That's why I asked the question about Bazemore earlier in the thread


It's a concern no doubt, but his pay isn't enough to make or break this team, and his play when healthy is much better than his pay would suggest. It's worth the gamble IMO. I'm hoping he can overcome the recurring injuries though working out over the summer.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:20 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:^Not if he can't stay healthy. We have old guys who break we don't need young ones too. That's why I asked the question about Bazemore earlier in the thread


X has had this issue every year in his brief career. It's hard to improve when you are constantly in rehab….

Games played each year
38
45
50
43 so far this year……

This from a guy who is average 16 minutes a game in his career. 13 before this year…..

I'd say he's fragile. I like what I see when he's on the floor but that isn't often enough based on his past.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby pound4pound1 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:09 am

50 losses..i dont want any of these bums back next year
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