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Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:23 am

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I'd say he's fragile. I like what I see when he's on the floor but that isn't often enough based on his past.

I don't know if I call him fragile as much as I call him reckless. He plays on athletecism instead of intellect to me and his body is paying the price. I'm high on X I really like his game he reminds me a lot of Ariza but a notch or two better. But like your post showed he can't stay on the floor even with only 16 minutes a game. If I had to choose which to keep I think I'd lean towards Bazemore even though his sample size is limited in range too.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby karacha on Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:51 am

I agree: he needs to stop being so reckless.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby LakersN4 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:47 pm

Most of us spent alot of season hoping X doesn't get a big multi year offer from another team & we lose him.. Now that it finally looks like we can keep him for the minimum guys want to dump him? I hope after we use our cap space he is 1 of the players we bring in for the minimum, hopefully with a 2nd year as a team option.. All he needs is a coach to get him to see the big picture & play more under control.. Even if D'antoni is back, the right assistant could do that.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Vasashi17 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:35 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:50 losses..i dont want any of these bums back next year


I agree completely!

Its been 40 years folks....50 losses is 50 losses. There's no excuses for that.

The coach is at fault, but these players are also accountable. If they have their agents try to drive a hard bargain, then they can walk.

These guys all deserve less than market...and if they want more, there's the door. I don't give a damn about your 40 point, 15 board, 15 dime outbursts.....I can't ignore 50. And lets not ignore that most of those 50 weren't competitive games that came down to the wire....the majority of those Ls were slaughters.

If they want a second chance, then sign a make-good type contract (another one year deal where they prove they deserve the big bucks)....otherwise deuces!
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby pound4pound1 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:46 pm

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pound4pound1 wrote:50 losses..i dont want any of these bums back next year


I agree completely!

Its been 40 years folks....50 losses is 50 losses. There's no excuses for that.

The coach is at fault, but these players are also accountable. If they have their agents try to drive a hard bargain, then they can walk.

These guys all deserve less than market...and if they want more, there's the door. I don't give a damn about your 40 point, 15 board, 15 dime outbursts.....I can't ignore 50. And lets not ignore that most of those 50 weren't competitive games that came down to the wire....the majority of those Ls were slaughters.

If they want a second chance, then sign a make-good type contract (another one year deal where they prove they deserve the big bucks)....otherwise deuces!





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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby LakersN4 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:57 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:
pound4pound1 wrote:50 losses..i dont want any of these bums back next year


I agree completely!

Its been 40 years folks....50 losses is 50 losses. There's no excuses for that.

The coach is at fault, but these players are also accountable. If they have their agents try to drive a hard bargain, then they can walk.

These guys all deserve less than market...and if they want more, there's the door. I don't give a damn about your 40 point, 15 board, 15 dime outbursts.....I can't ignore 50. And lets not ignore that most of those 50 weren't competitive games that came down to the wire....the majority of those Ls were slaughters.

If they want a second chance, then sign a make-good type contract (another one year deal where they prove they deserve the big bucks)....otherwise deuces!

I don't want to come off in any way like I'm making excuses for the team having such a terrible season, but putting it on (most of) the players is wrong imo, so making excuses for them is exactly what I'm going to do in this post..

The team was overachieving even by most homers expectations before Kobe returned.. Putting the best bench in the league out there.. Staying above .500 without a superstar (or even star/allstar unless you're Pau's biggest fan). A lot of fans agreed that it was an extremely fun team to watch with all of these young guys stepping up & playing outstanding team ball with great ball movement.. We looked like we would definitely be a playoff team when Kobe returned to lead these guys.

& it was all downhill from there.. They struggled to mesh with Kobe when he returned.. The great ball movement was gone & so was all of the energy that seemed to keep us in games.. Once Kobe got hurt again I think that just completely took the wind out of their sails.. At that point you know you're not playing for anything meaningful except your next contract. For the most part this is a group of guys that are in their first season here.. They haven't grown together as a team yet. They didn't have that chemistry to lift each other up & pull together to compensate for their leader being gone for the season.

I won't even get into the injuries or idiotic rotations that have frustrated & alienated multiple players on the team.. But if you ask me, you put this same group on this team next season & give them a healthy Kobe & an upgrade from Pau as our #2.. Give them hope & a goal to play for as a team, not as individuals looking for their next contract, & we'll see a complete turnaround from this nightmare of a season.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Vasashi17 on Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:28 am

^^I agree with alot of those points...but still I can't pardon these group of players.

Kobe "ruined team chemistry" for all of 6 games (1/14th of a season).....and like Kobe said himself, it wasn't like the team was playing at a ridiculous level before he ruined their chemistry....they were playing .500 ball and of the 10 wins they got before Kobe got back, only the Rox and the Clips were truly powerhouse playoff teams, if you even want to call them that, so early in the season. The other playoff teams they beat in that span were Brooklyn, GS and ATL. I don't really understand why folks think we were overachieving during that early portion of the season.....and I guess different strokes for different folks, but I found nothing amusing about the way we played earlier in the season.

The thing about those strokes is that they were low percentage shots and eventually those shots that fell, will gravitate back to the mean.

These players get alot of leash for the type of season we had....but we have endured through some rather harsh losses. Its really one thing to lose...but in the manner we have accumulated some of these losses is down right embarrassing. In the Lakers program guide, the have a section dedicated to largest Laker losses in history....I'm positive that page will look entirely different for the 2014/15 version.

And when an article comes out that this group of Lakers could be the biggest losers in Laker history, they decide to play the part of playerhaters for other teams....yeah, where was that to start the season?...or when Kobe got re-injured?....the only thing they're playerhating on is our draft position!

The players were a part of this putrid season....and as a result, their potential contracts warrant that type of stench....until they prove otherwise.

None of them deserve a lucrative deal with us...not a one. If that's what they're looking for, then look somewhere else...but then again, I'm looking up top and a certain 3 year 28M deal comes to mind....and don't even get me started on our coaching contracts....so I guess there is a chance that we end up overpaying for an unworthy player or 2....but I hope not.

BTW, this isn't intended just for X...I'm thinking every player on this team looking for a substantial pay raise, shouldn't be able to find one with us.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Savory Griddles on Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:12 am

Vasashi17 wrote:^^I agree with alot of those points...but still I can't pardon these group of players.

Kobe "ruined team chemistry" for all of 6 games (1/14th of a season).....and like Kobe said himself, it wasn't like the team was playing at a ridiculous level before he ruined their chemistry....they were playing .500 ball and of the 10 wins they got before Kobe got back, only the Rox and the Clips were truly powerhouse playoff teams, if you even want to call them that, so early in the season. The other playoff teams they beat in that span were Brooklyn, GS and ATL. I don't really understand why folks think we were overachieving during that early portion of the season.....and I guess different strokes for different folks, but I found nothing amusing about the way we played earlier in the season.

The thing about those strokes is that they were low percentage shots and eventually those shots that fell, will gravitate back to the mean.

These players get alot of leash for the type of season we had....but we have endured through some rather harsh losses. Its really one thing to lose...but in the manner we have accumulated some of these losses is down right embarrassing. In the Lakers program guide, the have a section dedicated to largest Laker losses in history....I'm positive that page will look entirely different for the 2014/15 version.

And when an article comes out that this group of Lakers could be the biggest losers in Laker history, they decide to play the part of playerhaters for other teams....yeah, where was that to start the season?...or when Kobe got re-injured?....the only thing they're playerhating on is our draft position!

The players were a part of this putrid season....and as a result, their potential contracts warrant that type of stench....until they prove otherwise.

None of them deserve a lucrative deal with us...not a one. If that's what they're looking for, then look somewhere else...but then again, I'm looking up top and a certain 3 year 28M deal comes to mind....and don't even get me started on our coaching contracts....so I guess there is a chance that we end up overpaying for an unworthy player or 2....but I hope not.

BTW, this isn't intended just for X...I'm thinking every player on this team looking for a substantial pay raise, shouldn't be able to find one with us.


I agree with everything in this post. The two players on this roster I like as backups or even specialist role players we have options for (Marshall and Kelly). So they can both prove themselves for one more season, one where we hopefully have at least SOME help from the draft and players that actually have starter potential.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:02 am

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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:31 pm

Xavier Henry expects to become healthy in five to six weeks; wants to re-sign with Lakers
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In this file photo, Utah Jazz’s Brandon Rush, left, and Derrick Favors defend as Los Angeles Lakers’ Xavier Henry (7) passes the ball during the first half of an NBA basketball game Friday, Dec. 27, 2013, in Salt Lake City. (Gene Sweeney Jr./The Associated Press file)
In this file photo, Utah Jazz’s Brandon Rush, left, and Derrick Favors defend as Los Angeles Lakers’ Xavier Henry (7) passes the ball during the first half of an NBA basketball game Friday, Dec. 27, 2013, in Salt Lake City. (Gene Sweeney Jr./The Associated Press file)

The imagery jumped out on Xavier Henry’s shoes.

The Lakers forward sported a new pair of Kobe Bryant’s new Nike shoes dubbed the “Kobe 9 Nike IDs.” Beyond the flashy footwear that both showed affection for his teammate’s branding stood an important message Henry has tried to follow.

Two words were inscribed on the back of his left shoe: “Built For.” Two words were inscribed on the back of his right shoe: “The Grind.” Combine those four words together, and you have a mission statement summing up how Henry has approached the rehab surrounding his left wrist and right knee that he believes will fully heal within the next five to six weeks.

“It’s been a long time, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel,” said Henry, who has rehabbed since having surgery on both his left wrist and right knee in mid-April shortly before the 2014-15 season ended. “I feel good. I’m heading in the right direction. I feel all right.”


While the Lakers hosted a pre-draft workout at the team’s practice facility in El Segundo on Friday, Henry worked on a series of ball handling and shooting drills with player development coach Larry Lewis. But one caveat. Henry could only perform everything with only his right hand. The southpaw reported that he still has to build more strength in his wrist before using his left hand to shoot and handle the ball. Meanwhile, Henry has worked on various exercises that will help build balance to strengthen his left knee.

“It feels like I’m strengthening my leg the right way,” Henry said. “When I’m finally done with the rehab, I will feel good, explosive and fast and powerful. I like to play like that.”

That explains why the Lakers liked Henry, who averaged 10 points per game by showing bursts of athleticism toward the basket. Henry will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1, representing one of 12 Lakers players that will face uncertainty on whether they play again.

The Lakers would like to re-sign Henry. But the Lakers are hoping to retain all role players on one-year contracts on relatively inexpensive deals to maximize financial flexibility for high caliber players, such as LeBron James in 2014, Kevin Love in 2015 or Kevin Durant in 2016. Meanwhile, Henry would love to stay here.

“With my mind on my wrist and knee and getting it back to 100 percent and as healthy as I can, I’m not too worried about the free agency stuff,” Henry said. “At the end of the day, even if I sign for $100 million, I’m not going to be healthy. If I’m not healthy, I’m not going to have fun. I have to be healthy. Then whatever happens, happens.”

Henry has dealt with unpredictable events for most of his four-year career.

The Memphis Grizzlies drafted him 12th overall in the 2010 NBA Draft after impressing scouts with his playmaking, shooting and hustle in his lone season with the Kansas Jayhawks. But Henry suffered a right knee injury that kept him out for all but 38 games. The Grizzlies then traded Henry to New Orleans the next season where he missed a combined 69 games the next two years.

Last season, Henry encountered more frustration with the Lakers’ losing season and continuous injuries. Yet, he finally discovered a place where he found comfort. So even if Henry does not re-sign with the Lakers right away, he believes he will still have the chance to work at the team’s facility. Then he can continue to push and live by the motto etched on his sneakers.

“As long as I don’t sign somewhere else, I think they’ll help me,” Henry said of the Lakers’ training staff. “I’m a decent guy and didn’t treat anybody too bad where they would say, ‘You’re not under contract. We’re not going to help you out anymore. Have fun with a gimp leg and messed up wrist.’ I think they’ll help me through it so I can get 100 percent.”

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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:36 pm

Sure he wants to re-sign. Where else in the league can he get the PT he'll get here while still getting high exposure? We'll be worse than the Bucks but on TV 15 times.... I'm sure the agent of any player with a little potential wants to get their client on the Lakers for a one year deal. Do well and it's a 3 year deal somewhere else.....

If he had kept up his play earlier in the year and had not gotten injured he'd be getting that 3 year deal somewhere.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby davriver290 on Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:05 pm

I'd sign him on a 2-3 year deal, but a super cheap one. Just to get two extra years outta him because I'm sure he'd be an excellent bench player.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:45 am

davriver290 wrote:I'd sign him on a 2-3 year deal, but a super cheap one. Just to get two extra years outta him because I'm sure he'd be an excellent bench player.

This. I'd offer him the Robert Sacre deal: super cheap, but for a few years. He's still very young. If he produces well he can get paid again afterwards. If he doesn't... well then he'll be an end of the bench guy and easily expendable.

But if he wants more than that, no thanks. Sorry Xavier.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby LakersN4 on Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:01 am

davriver290 wrote:I'd sign him on a 2-3 year deal, but a super cheap one. Just to get two extra years outta him because I'm sure he'd be an excellent bench player.

I don't think he'll take more than a year or 2.. He's going to want to string together 1 healthy season & then cash in with a multi year deal. I'd be fine with the minimum for 1 or 2 years.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Delicious on Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:05 am

Report: Lakers, Xavier Henry interested in reunion


Aside from Kobe Bryant's much-maligned return, there wasn't much for fans of the Los Angeles Lakers to be excited for last season.

However, if there were one ray of sunshine that managed to peek through the Lakers' cloud of negativity, it was certainly the play of Xavier Henry. The unheralded forward posted career highs in points (10), rebounds (2.7) and assists per game (1.2) in 43 games before a pair of injuries ended his season.

It appears that the Lakers and Henry - who is an unrestricted free-agent - have mutual interest in a reunion. According to Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Daily News, Henry wants to re-sign with the Lakers, and the team wants to re-sign him, but they hope to keep their books clean by signing him for just one season.

Given Henry's career took him to three NBA teams over four seasons, it wouldn't be a surprise for him to prioritize job security as a free-agent. However, his season was cut short by injuries which may limit Henry's options beyond any offers made by the Lakers.

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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby JSM on Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:21 pm

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Lakers made mock ups of Melo's No. 7 jersey per source. Unlikely Xavier Henry will be as offended as Jeremy Lin


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Lakers do actually want to re-sign Xavier Henry. Not as a priority obviously as Melo
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:24 pm

Technically Xavier isn't on our team right now though. :man10:

Lin was probably in the room while they photoshopped Carmelo into his jersey wondering why no one likes him in Houston.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby SK8 on Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:24 pm

Any news on Xavier?
I would like him here, but i can't find any news and i don't see that any other teams are asking for his service, no?? Isn't that strange, teams were killing over Bazemore, but no word on Xavier :freak2:
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Snakell Beast on Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:46 pm

Uncle Drew wrote:Any news on Xavier?
I would like him here, but i can't find any news and i don't see that any other teams are asking for his service, no?? Isn't that strange, teams were killing over Bazemore, but no word on Xavier :freak2:


That's injury risk for you. It lost us Bazemore, but might help us keep X...oh, and it brought us Randle...We'll see what that means.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby JSM on Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:45 pm

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Ryan Kelly will likely reach deal soon w/ Lakers. Lakers like Xavier Henry, but no deal is imminent. Lakers unlikely to keep Wesley Johnson
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Weezy on Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:53 pm

^^^ Hey, good news all around there.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby LTLakerFan on Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:11 pm

I'm big on Henry too, but he just has to stay healthy. He seems with his final steps on a drive to the hoop and for elevating…..to kind of take long, stiff legged strides for take off a lot. Does anybody else see that? I remember locker room footage last year with Swaggy making light hearted fun of X's stiff legged last steps style as how he hurt himself.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:13 pm

Weezy wrote:^^^ Hey, good news all around there.

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Yeah... I'm really disappointed in what we got out of Wes. I thought (still do) that he had a lot of potential. I thought Kobe might be able to help him realize it, but the kid just doesn't have the head for the game. Too bad. I was wrong on that one. :man5:

I'm definitely looking forward to Kelly coming back and I'm hopeful we get some positive news on Xavier as well.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby Juronimo on Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:11 pm

I hope we give him another look. If he can stay healthy he'd be a quality NBA player.
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Re: Xavier Henry Discussion: X Man

Postby KB24 on Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:14 pm

Kelly is a 100% bum who will not find another NBA spot if not with the Lakers...the train wreck of the NBA right now. I can't believe we will sign him again...zero athleticism, rebounding, post game and defense...semi-decent shot for a big and thats all he has to offer...

He is a really nice guy and I like Kelly the person though...but thats not winning basketball games.
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