Fri. 12/3 vs. Warriors - Results Inside - Postgame comments

Postby 8kobe8 on Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:52 am

I just have a hard time seeing us win this game, especially with our bad performance on Wednesay. I hope we can turn things around, and hope they stop settling for 3's.
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Postby IonZephyr on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:13 am

Why is the title of this thread starting with Wednesday? just thought Id ask. :man13:
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Postby LakRfAn on Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:38 am

8kobe8 wrote:I just have a hard time seeing us win this game, especially with our bad performance on Wednesay. I hope we can turn things around, and hope they stop settling for 3's.


We will be playing on several days' rest. We will be playing at home. We will be playing the lowly warriors.

Can you please explain why you have a hard time seeing us win this game?
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Postby MarkMadsen on Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:59 am

it shouldnt be hard for usto win this game. Granted we lost to the bulls but that still dosent makes us awful. However its still not an automatic win.
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Postby Supastas on Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:39 pm

The way some people are talking you'd think we were on a 6 game losing streak. Did it ever occur to anyone that no matter how bad the Bulls are, that we don't match up well with them? They played us pretty well earlier at home, and for some reason Tyson Chandler only logged 9 minutes. Was it really that much of a surprise that they were pumped up at home, having lost to us recently, and having had 3 days between games where they would practice and prepare specifically for our team. Was it really a big surprise that Eddy Curry (6-11 285lbs) and Tyson Chandler (7-1 235lbs) put up 28 points and 28 rebounds vs. Lamar Odom and Brian Cook for the most part (Mihm only played 16 minutes while Cook played 32). At some point you have to realize our front court is very thin and exploitable. It sucks to lose to a 1-10 team, but it happens. This is professional baskeball, any team can beat any other on a given night.

So anyway, I don't see why people should be pessimistic going into this game just because they lost to the Bulls in their house. We play well at home, and we still have a 6-4 record in our last ten games. Now I admit, I would start to get worried if they dropped this game. If they couldn't even respond well enough to that loss to beat the Warriors at home. But that hasn't happened yet. If they do respond well and take care of the Warriors, then its a good sign that loss was just a little bump on the road on this long marathon. I expect the Lakers to beat the Warriors tonight.
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Postby G|B|G|B on Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:30 pm

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Postby trodgers on Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:45 pm

Lakers should take this one. I'm looking to see Vlade get some quality minutes. Any news on his back? I like Mihm but he's not getting the job done. He's too soft.
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Postby Crono0801 on Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:49 pm

we should be able to win the game :jam2: :jam2: :jam2:

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Postby leftymo on Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:13 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:Lakers should take this one. I'm looking to see Vlade get some quality minutes. Any news on his back? I like Mihm but he's not getting the job done. He's too soft.



When a player has already been on four teams obviously there's SOMETHING wrong with him.
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Postby hZm on Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:17 pm

:man6: I know im gonna miss D-Fish a lot after this game.
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Postby G|B|G|B on Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:39 pm

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Postby kobesthegreatest8 on Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:55 pm

i love d-fish! lakers should win!!GO LAKERS!!!!! :jam2: :jam2: :jam2:
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Postby HitEmUp on Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:56 pm

i hope d-fish hits a three to put them up by 2, but then kobe makes one of his incredible shots and hits it at the buzzard and lakers win by 1
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Postby SOAD on Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:38 pm

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Postby kobesthegreatest8 on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:23 pm

game just started come on lakers!!!
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Postby JSM on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:26 pm

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Chucky Atkins vs. Speedy Claxton and Derek Fisher: This is where my confidence in us goes down. Chucky's offensive game is coming along wonderfully now, I don't know what's gotten into him on the offensive end, but I am liking it and hope he can sustain it. I know, asking for Chucky to stay consistent, is like asking George to retire, it just won't happen. I also would like for Chucky to take it easy on the 3's, at least use better shot selection, and not shoot a 3 whenever he gets the feeling that he has to try to be like Antoine Walker. I swear he jacks up 3's like a drug addict pop pills, and that's not exactly a good thing for us. What is worse than that is that he can not defend an opponent and tonight he has two he has to deal with. Craig is not called Speedy for nothing, too bad Chucky will probably have to learn that the hard way. And then comes in the fan favorite, Fisher, yes, even as an opponent, I feel that he will be one of the fan favorites tonight. He is getting a special ceremony at the beginning of the game, either that will be so emotional to him that he plays poorly or it will inspire him to give his fans still in LA an outing, but that performance will be at our PG's expense. I think their PG's will likely own us. They combine for about 20 points and 9 assists, while out two PGs combine for roughly 14 and 6. Maybe Tierre can come in an play a game like he did against the Hornets or the Bucks (the first time we played them), we could sure use it.

Kobe Bryant vs. Jason Richardson: League's scoring leader against one of the fan favorite dunkers. There are two things that each of these players are doing more of than they ever have done...shoot the ball and pass the ball. In fact, per 48 minutes, J-Rich (4th in shoots per 48 minutes) is shooting more than Kobe (12th in shots per 48 minutes), yet this could be a bad thing for the Warriors, because they Warriors have only won 3 games. This could have nothing to do with it, but something to think about, at least. Jason is one heck of an athlete, can jump out of the building, is a strong rebounder, but can't seem to find a way to lead his team to some W's. This should be a good matchup tonight, both are strong, athletic guards, very active on the offensive end, but the one of the separation points is located on the defensive end. Kobe is one of the best defenders in the game, whereas that is one of J-Rich's weaker points. Kobe should come victorious out of this matchup, hopefully he got the memo about the Lakers plan to start inside, and this should be another W for us.

Caron Butler vs. Mike Dunleavy: Caron has played very well for us this year, being a strong 3rd option for us to go to. Caron plays his best ball at home and with only one day of rest, well he has both in favor of him going into tonight's game. Caron is a lot quicker than Mike, he should be able to take advantage of his quicker first step and get to the basket quite a bit. Dunleavy can shoot, rebound, pass, and is a capable scorer for the Warriors, but he is not known for his defense. Caron should be able to produce a 15 point and 7 rebound game, I think that would be just what the doctor ordered for tonight. JJ will have his work cut out for him against the French Michael Jordan, Pietrus is quite the athletic freak, and is putting up 10 points a game. Mickael can dunk, jump, and play D, but his shot is still a little shaky. If JJ can keep him from the basket, stay in front of him, force him to shoot...then this #2 should be no problem. Najera will see some spot minutes here, especially if Caron gets off to a good scoring game, in attempt to bully him around. Najera is slower though, so Caron and JJ can work with that, as long as they keep Ed off the boards.

Lamar Odom vs. Troy Murphy: The young Warrior is impressing me. He is putting up some pretty impressive stats, scoring, rebounding the ball equally well on both ends, and shooting a decent percentage. He seems to be playing much better with his increase in minutes. Odom's game against the Bulls was the first game that he hadn't had double scoring figures, since opening night. Now, I will just attribute that to playing against the Bulls, something that we have always had some problems against. Believe it or not, Odom actually plays slightly worse at home, but Murphy plays noticeably worse on the road, so maybe that will equal each other out. I think if Lamar is able to contain Troy's shooting, he should have no problem against him. Lamar is more athletic, has longer arms, and he is quicker than Troy. I expect for Lamar to get the ball more tonight, with the Lakers trying to correct our problem, before it becomes an issue. If everything goes to plan, we will be seeing the ball go inside more, hopefully sooner, and if we are lucky, we will see the ball go outside-in, meaning more open looks for others (perhaps Kobe), when the Warriors start to collapse on us in the middle. One more thing that Lamar has to be sure to do is attack, we can't have him settling for jumpers, especially when he is playing against Cliff, who as I am sure will see some playing time at the PF. The PF spot will played mostly by Murphy, but 12 or so minutes will go to Cliff and a few to Najera. Cook should be able to hold his own against Troy, both can shoot the ball, Brian is a better shooter than Troy when he has his spacing. I would look for a solid night from Cook. I think Najera could give us some problems, because he is tough, although small, only concern I have when he is in is on the glass.

Chris Mihm vs. Clifford Robinson:
Lucky for us, we are playing at home, meaning we can expect for Chris to show up tonight, because for some reason, he isn't a road player. When you team is starting a PF, it really makes you wonder what the center that was starting has done so poorly in. And that's kind of where I am, when I see that they have gone with starting Cliff, instead of Davis. a 6-10, 38 year old is not usually your ideal starting center, so that means that the slightly younger, bigger, Davis is in a major slump. The only thing that Davis has been able to do this season is rebound, his scoring has become virtually non existent, only averaging a bucket a night, and not even 1 assist a game. Seems like they have lost confidence in him and age getting him the ball less and less, and probably why they are starting Cliff. And what's even worse for the Warriors, is that Cliff is not adapting to his new role all that well. He is shooting the lowest FG% of his career, the lowest 3 point %, but his rebounding numbers are slightly up, right there with his rebounding numbers, early in his tensure with the Suns. I think that with an athletic Mihm, playing at home, we should dominate this matchup. Chris is much quicker than Cliff has been in years, and the same goes when he is going against Davis. Even though Cliff is much slower in getting open, getting to the outside, getting his open shot, Chris still has to respect that he can shoot the ball and stick with him. That's probably the reason that Cliff's numbers from the outside are down, he isn't getting the shot selection he would like and is forced to playing a lot more in the post than he is comfortable with. The only thing that concerns me when Chris is going up against Dale is the fact that he can still rebound, might take him the rest of the game to get down the court, but he still can rebound the ball pretty well for the limited action he is seeing. I think that Cook should get his fair share of minutes tonight, some at both the center position and at the PF. He can very well go against Cliff when he is in there. I would imagine that Vlade will see his 5 or so minutes against Foyle, since he is the rawest of the bunch. To this day, I still wonder why the Warriors signed Foyle to that big contract that they did, if it was for his positive attitude and locker room presence alone, then they got ripped off. I don't hope for anything out of Vlade, that way I won't get disappointed. Right now all I am hoping for is whatever time he sees out there will slowly help him get into better condition, we need him, and at the stage he is at right now, he is useless. I don't think any of our centers will have a tough time tonight, as long as Mihm remembers he's at home and stays out of foul trouble, we should be fine.
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Postby KB24Gold on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:28 pm

Let's go L.A.!!!!! :ball1:
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Postby G|B|G|B on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:29 pm

so wut did they do for fisher?
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Postby lofton_wu on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:29 pm

Fish!! :man6:
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Postby GCMD on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:30 pm

Hope Fish lights it for 30 tonight...as long as the Lakers Win :man1:
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Postby G|B|G|B on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:30 pm

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Postby kobesthegreatest8 on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:30 pm

i dunno but ull be able to see it on sc later tonight
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Postby iWuVkObE8BrYaNT on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:31 pm

i so miss seein derek rockin the purple and gold :man6:
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Postby BDG on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:31 pm

GameCockMD wrote:Hope Fish lights it for 30 tonight...as long as the Lakers Win :man1:
I hope that happens! As long as we win of course though... by a good margin :man1:

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Postby G|B|G|B on Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:31 pm

they should let fisher start =)
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