leftymo wrote:DWonderful wrote:DWonderful wrote:we cant blame this loss on any one person..odom and mihm did a terrible job on the defensive end..atkins shouldnt have shot that layup..kobe shouldnt have passed the ball with 26 secs left, and when he got his offensive rebound he shouldnt have passed to chucky for a three, he should have gone rite back up with it..caron sucked..lamar or grant should have got the rebound when rose missed..and jj played terrible defence
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One sentence referring to defense, and you named the wrong guy!
Jones is one of the few guys that tries to play defense, heck he's part of the reason they got back into the game (by benching Caron).
Overall the team defense was bad, by a great many players... they lost b/c they can't guard anyone, if they give up 90 points, its a W!
Poor rotation, poor individual defense, not forcing turnovers, and just a complete overall laziness defensively is the reason they lost. No less, no more.
It's amazing that Chucky & Kobe kept them in the game. They should've lost by 25.
I'm betting serious money against them tomorrow in New York. And Kobe can do whatever you want him to, they're still going to lose b/c they can't guard anyone.
Lakerfan36 wrote:KB8 till infinity wrote:Lakerfan36 wrote:Toronto goes on a 10-0 run at the end when we were up by 4...what the FUUCCKK was kobe doing shooting a 3 when we were down by two...
and yea kobe isnt clutch anymoreYou can´t lose the clutch ability. You are either clutch or you aren´t.
kobe was clutch the last few years...but now he isnt....he hasnt made any big shots this year...
DWonderful wrote:DWonderful wrote:DWonderful wrote:DWonderful wrote:we cant blame this loss on any one person..odom and mihm did a terrible job on the defensive end..atkins shouldnt have shot that layup..kobe shouldnt have passed the ball with 26 secs left, and when he got his offensive rebound he shouldnt have passed to chucky for a three, he should have gone rite back up with it..caron sucked..lamar or grant should have got the rebound when rose missed..and jj played terrible defence
am i the only person that thinks this
Lateralus wrote:GT1 wrote:Lateralus wrote:GuRu wrote:G|B|G|B wrote:blame kobe for the loss
shots a 3 when his team mates are open :man7: :man7: :man7: :man7:
That may be the stupidest thing ive ever seen posted on this board OF ALL TIME
What, is Kobe immune from doing anything wrong? He took a moronic three when there were plenty of better options and it COSTED US THE GAME. Get off Kobe's balls and realize he can make mistakes.
Why doesn't anyone ban this guy? He does nothing but troll.
Oh I'm sorry, is reality hurting you or are you just a blind fan ?
k0pr0phage wrote:Lakerfan36 wrote:KB8 till infinity wrote:G|B|G|B wrote:Runway wrote:DJM19 wrote:butler: 1-9 FG
he's a joke
kobe is a joke
shotting 3's when his team mates are open and theres time left on the clock :man7:
IF YOU HAVE A KOBE PROBLEM I FEEL BAD FOR YOU SON. THE LAKERS HAVE 99 PROBLEMS BUT KOBE AIN´T ONE.
Kobe Turned it over...at the end of the game
Yeah. Kobe sucks. 31 points, 8 boards, 8 assists, 48% shooting. We can't have that crap.
GT1 wrote:Kobe did his job, made lots of shots, got everyone involved, how is Kobe's fault that Jalen made that OPEN shot? The player near didn't even attempt to put a hand up.
Blame the poor Laker defense you @sshat.
k0pr0phage wrote:I'm glad I had to watch this game in Spanish, because my Spanish sucks, so I didn't understand most of what they were saying. I was able to focus on what the players were doing...if the Lakers play D the way they have the last two games, the will not make the playoffs. But more seriously, I don't see them finishing at .500. Despite the two losses, our offense has been great these two games. 90 pts against Detroit is not bad (they're giving up an average of 88). 102 should be enough to beat anyone in the game. I'm fine with the way the Lakers play O (except for rebounding).
Here's the really bad news. We know how we suck when we give up 100 points per game. We're giving up an average of almost 99. On any given night, we are hovering around a point where we have almost no chance of winning. This was some of the worst, passionless D I've ever seen. This team needs help and quick.
Guru, Mitch should have made a move. We could not have done worse at the PG spot than what we have. I don't care if Chucky scores 20 points per night. He gives up more than that.
Lateralus wrote:3-3 since Kobe's return. Losing to Detroit was acceptable but the Raptors...
We were supposed to go 3-0 on this road trip.
dynasty4kobe wrote:Lamar Odom gets less respect from NBA officials than any other Laker in history (save for Shaq and Wilt).
Did Mihm or Butler play in the fourth? I don't remember them doing much.
LakerBaller7 wrote:k0pr0phage wrote:Lakerfan36 wrote:KB8 till infinity wrote:G|B|G|B wrote:Runway wrote:DJM19 wrote:butler: 1-9 FG
he's a joke
kobe is a joke
shotting 3's when his team mates are open and theres time left on the clock :man7:
IF YOU HAVE A KOBE PROBLEM I FEEL BAD FOR YOU SON. THE LAKERS HAVE 99 PROBLEMS BUT KOBE AIN´T ONE.
Kobe Turned it over...at the end of the game
Yeah. Kobe sucks. 31 points, 8 boards, 8 assists, 48% shooting. We can't have that crap.
Yes Kobe had a great game overall but your missing the point. Because of that one shot attempt he took from the 3 point line pretty much gave away what we was fighting for in the 4th. Of course the main reason we lost is because of lack of team effort but you gotta admit when he took that 3 with the time we had remaining you was probably asking yourself why did he do that?
Lateralus wrote:Lakerfan36 wrote:KB8 till infinity wrote:Lakerfan36 wrote:Toronto goes on a 10-0 run at the end when we were up by 4...what the FUUCCKK was kobe doing shooting a 3 when we were down by two...
and yea kobe isnt clutch anymoreYou can´t lose the clutch ability. You are either clutch or you aren´t.
kobe was clutch the last few years...but now he isnt....he hasnt made any big shots this year...
It's hard to be clutch when the entire opposing team knows the ball is going to be in your hands. The last few years Kobe didn't have to feel all that pressure because there were other superstars on the court. It's different now and he's obviously going to have to adjust.
Lateralus wrote:GT1 wrote:Kobe did his job, made lots of shots, got everyone involved, how is Kobe's fault that Jalen made that OPEN shot? The player near didn't even attempt to put a hand up.
Blame the poor Laker defense you @sshat.
Wait, who said it was Kobe's fault that Jalen Rose made an open shot?
DWonderful wrote:DWonderful wrote:DWonderful wrote:we cant blame this loss on any one person..odom and mihm did a terrible job on the defensive end..atkins shouldnt have shot that layup..kobe shouldnt have passed the ball with 26 secs left, and when he got his offensive rebound he shouldnt have passed to chucky for a three, he should have gone rite back up with it..caron sucked..lamar or grant should have got the rebound when rose missed..and jj played terrible defence
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I gotchu man. And yes, you can't blame one man for the loss. If the defense had been there, that shot would either A) not mattered or B) not have even been necessary to take or C) I guess both A and B mean kinda the same thing, huh?LakerBaller7 wrote:Yes Kobe had a great game overall but your missing the point. Because of that one shot attempt he took from the 3 point line pretty much gave away what we was fighting for in the 4th. Of course the main reason we lost is because of lack of team effort but you gotta admit when he took that 3 with the time we had remaining you was probably asking yourself why did he do that?
I Support #8 wrote:k0pr0phage wrote:I'm glad I had to watch this game in Spanish, because my Spanish sucks, so I didn't understand most of what they were saying. I was able to focus on what the players were doing...if the Lakers play D the way they have the last two games, the will not make the playoffs. But more seriously, I don't see them finishing at .500. Despite the two losses, our offense has been great these two games. 90 pts against Detroit is not bad (they're giving up an average of 88). 102 should be enough to beat anyone in the game. I'm fine with the way the Lakers play O (except for rebounding).
Here's the really bad news. We know how we suck when we give up 100 points per game. We're giving up an average of almost 99. On any given night, we are hovering around a point where we have almost no chance of winning. This was some of the worst, passionless D I've ever seen. This team needs help and quick.
Guru, Mitch should have made a move. We could not have done worse at the PG spot than what we have. I don't care if Chucky scores 20 points per night. He gives up more than that.
Thank you!!! And very well put and written. I'm not caring about an all-star trade (although I would have loved to have gotten Davis) but just anything so show that we're trying!!
k0pr0phage wrote:There are guys who should be shooting in the clutch and he's one of them.
GT1 wrote:Lateralus wrote:3-3 since Kobe's return. Losing to Detroit was acceptable but the Raptors...
We were supposed to go 3-0 on this road trip.
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Quit being an ignorant Kobe hater. Did you ever think of it this way?
Won three straight without Butler, 0-2 with him back. :man7:
GuRu wrote:Lateralus wrote:GT1 wrote:Lateralus wrote:GuRu wrote:G|B|G|B wrote:blame kobe for the loss
shots a 3 when his team mates are open :man7: :man7: :man7: :man7:
That may be the stupidest thing ive ever seen posted on this board OF ALL TIME
What, is Kobe immune from doing anything wrong? He took a moronic three when there were plenty of better options and it COSTED US THE GAME. Get off Kobe's balls and realize he can make mistakes.
Why doesn't anyone ban this guy? He does nothing but troll.
Oh I'm sorry, is reality hurting you or are you just a blind fan ?
What's a more blind approach? Blaming the loss on Kobe for taking a bad 3 or completely ignoring his effort the entire game that even kept us close?
i didnt watch the game, but it sounds like kobe took a bad shot. Its a mistake, but you have to take them as they come. Taking a bad shot does not constitute costing us the game. Its just a mistake at the end of the game when we were already losing
Lack of defense cost us the game.
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