Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Those free throws by Dwight were the nail in the coffin. I would rather bench him for the last 2:30 minutes or so than have him out there on the floor.

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

this is perfect.

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

agree on that, but the horrible officiating really is the reason cause the game. Heat did not shoot so well until fourth quarter but we got pwned by ref at 3rd. At least two times Lebron charge call turn to blocking call

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.

GoldHammish wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

Miami played great, great defense, and I'm not saying they weren't the better team... But damn it did feel like we got the short end of the stick in regards to the officiating.

They were running a layup drill out there and we couldn't get the ball below the 3 point line for most of the second half.... the Refs missed a couple both ways and gave a few "star" calls out but it didn't change the outcome IMO..... it's beyond a cop-out to blame the Refs..... especially when you turn the ball over 20 times and don't adjust to the defense or recognize your mismatches...

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

We lost for many reasons....TOs FTs etc. but the calls were also a factor. Come on roo, aggregate totals don't mean anything --it's the TIMELINESS of the calls and I'm sorry but the heat go some very timely calls. That being said, lakers should be glad to have even been in the game.

ramsay13 wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

this is perfect.

The first part is not perfect. Miami took a lot of jump shots, and got some easy layups with their moving screens. Plus, you can't touch LeBron, so might as well let him have the layup without committing an And-1.

Even the announcers were saying how Miami's plan was to foul when necessary, especially to foul Howard, so of course they're going to have more fouls. But only 4 more? Should have been more like 10, but oh well.

The second part is perfect, though. Seems like every time Nash got a screen, it turned into a double team on him, and he had to pass it out, disrupting our whole offense. Every. Single. Possession. Why didn't we do anything about it?

thebluemamba14 wrote:Unnecessary dunk by LeBron in the last six seconds with the shot clock off. What a dbag.

kobe has done this b4 to other teams... maybe lakers should get in his face and not let that happen..

im not hating on lakers but get in his face and dont let that happen if u dont want to see it.. they just stood around and lebron wants to send a message..

dj vitus wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.

So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....

ist half to many turnovers . 2nd half i think the refs were absolutely in favor to miami but i hate to say that what really broke us were the last 2 missed freethrows by d12 if he would ve maked these we had a tied game. but all in all we fought hard weren t lucky but i say with that kind of effort every game and cutting down the turnovers like we did in the 2nd half we will win a ton of games and make the playoffs . i say we will win the next 4 games, 3 on road and 1 at home . call me crazy or dumb but that s what i think

Rooscooter wrote:

GoldHammish wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

Miami played great, great defense, and I'm not saying they weren't the better team... But damn it did feel like we got the short end of the stick in regards to the officiating.

They were running a layup drill out there and we couldn't get the ball below the 3 point line for most of the second half.... the Refs missed a couple both ways and gave a few "star" calls out but it didn't change the outcome IMO..... it's beyond a cop-out to blame the Refs..... especially when you turn the ball over 20 times and don't adjust to the defense or recognize your mismatches...

Lol, how do you adjust when they're getting phantom calls, free moving screens, free blocks with no fouls, and free out of bounds possessions? Also, I didn't see very many calls errantly go our way, unless you can point them out.

Rooscooter wrote:

dj vitus wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.

So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....

.....don't think he suggested anything even remotely close to that

Rooscooter wrote:

dj vitus wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.

So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....

It's not a conspiracy. It's "elitism." "They're the Heat, they're good, so they deserve to get better calls. Milwaukee? Psh, who cares." I'll admit, I've seen Dwight get away with waaaaaaaaaay too many goaltends this season, but only against bad teams.

I'll even admit we got a bunch of calls during our Shaq era against the Kings. That was pretty fun at the time, but sucks to be on the other end.

Chillbongo wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

We lost for many reasons....TOs FTs etc. but the calls were also a factor. Come on roo, aggregate totals don't mean anything --it's the TIMELINESS of the calls and I'm sorry but the heat go some very timely calls. That being said, lakers should be glad to have even been in the game.

20 turnovers.... got killed in the paint.... missed 10 free throws...... didn't play to our strength (yet again).

Also when you are always attacking and being aggressive you get calls..... when you are shooting fade aways with 2 seconds on the shot clock you usually don't.....

Chillbongo wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:

dj vitus wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.

So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....

.....don't think he suggested anything even remotely close to that

You need to think it though.... either they are determining games or they are not.....

Rooscooter wrote:

Chillbongo wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

We lost for many reasons....TOs FTs etc. but the calls were also a factor. Come on roo, aggregate totals don't mean anything --it's the TIMELINESS of the calls and I'm sorry but the heat go some very timely calls. That being said, lakers should be glad to have even been in the game.

20 turnovers.... got killed in the paint.... missed 10 free throws...... didn't play to our strength (yet again).

Also when you are always attacking and being aggressive you get calls..... when you are shooting fade aways with 2 seconds on the shot clock you usually don't.....

but you have to see 20 TO 16 come from first half and we lead by 1. But start third quarter every call is against Lakers Jamison and Pau attack inside got shoved no call while Lebron clearly charge to MWP and Pau are called blocking foul. Those call can really turn the game around.

I mean it's not black and white. I'm just saying that t isn't equally officiated. Not saying that they are vying for a particular "outcome".

Regardless we're lucky to be in the game. The refs sucked in the 2nd half, but had we hit FTs or TO'd less or played better D down the stretch (wtf on those ray Allen curls) we could have won

you have a point unknowndevil

Just don't think this team is built to play championship D :(

And possibly bc of coach. I mean miamis roster top to bottom is not much younger or equipped with any more elite Defenders than us, and look at that s*** tonight

tigerjeterkobe wrote:I am so pissed right now.

Nash, Gasol, and Metta did nothing in the clutch.

9 to ZERO run. Howard airballing a free throw. nice

Looks like Kobe did nothing wrong.

escobar8 wrote:pathetic finish...sad thing i aint surprised...

Not running the offense, Nash's crazy underhand shot; D12 missing foul shots.
The Lakers cannot win a close game.

odom1year wrote:

tigerjeterkobe wrote:I am so pissed right now.

Nash, Gasol, and Metta did nothing in the clutch.

9 to ZERO run. Howard airballing a free throw. nice

Looks like Kobe did nothing wrong.

ok i'll say it terrible shooting all night up until the 4th quarter..

LeBron was certainly balling enough on his own but the zebras were stroking him all game.