Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby laker911 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:20 pm

Those free throws by Dwight were the nail in the coffin. I would rather bench him for the last 2:30 minutes or so than have him out there on the floor.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby ramsay13 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:20 pm

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.


this is perfect.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Unknowndevil on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:20 pm

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.


agree on that, but the horrible officiating really is the reason cause the game. Heat did not shoot so well until fourth quarter but we got pwned by ref at 3rd. At least two times Lebron charge call turn to blocking call
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby dj vitus on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:20 pm

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:20 pm

Miami picked a perfect time to play this type of defense against us they haven't been playing earlier.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:23 pm

GoldHammish wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

Miami played great, great defense, and I'm not saying they weren't the better team... But damn it did feel like we got the short end of the stick in regards to the officiating.


They were running a layup drill out there and we couldn't get the ball below the 3 point line for most of the second half.... the Refs missed a couple both ways and gave a few "star" calls out but it didn't change the outcome IMO..... it's beyond a cop-out to blame the Refs..... especially when you turn the ball over 20 times and don't adjust to the defense or recognize your mismatches...
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:23 pm

Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

We lost for many reasons....TOs FTs etc. but the calls were also a factor. Come on roo, aggregate totals don't mean anything --it's the TIMELINESS of the calls and I'm sorry but the heat go some very timely calls. That being said, lakers should be glad to have even been in the game.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby dj vitus on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:24 pm

ramsay13 wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.


this is perfect.

The first part is not perfect. Miami took a lot of jump shots, and got some easy layups with their moving screens. Plus, you can't touch LeBron, so might as well let him have the layup without committing an And-1.

Even the announcers were saying how Miami's plan was to foul when necessary, especially to foul Howard, so of course they're going to have more fouls. But only 4 more? Should have been more like 10, but oh well.

The second part is perfect, though. Seems like every time Nash got a screen, it turned into a double team on him, and he had to pass it out, disrupting our whole offense. Every. Single. Possession. Why didn't we do anything about it? :bang:
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Maluco Beleza on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:24 pm

thebluemamba14 wrote:Unnecessary dunk by LeBron in the last six seconds with the shot clock off. What a dbag.



kobe has done this b4 to other teams... maybe lakers should get in his face and not let that happen..

im not hating on lakers but get in his face and dont let that happen if u dont want to see it.. they just stood around and lebron wants to send a message..
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:25 pm

dj vitus wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.


So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby kobebryant248 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:26 pm

ist half to many turnovers . 2nd half i think the refs were absolutely in favor to miami but i hate to say that what really broke us were the last 2 missed freethrows by d12 if he would ve maked these we had a tied game. but all in all we fought hard weren t lucky but i say with that kind of effort every game and cutting down the turnovers like we did in the 2nd half we will win a ton of games and make the playoffs . i say we will win the next 4 games, 3 on road and 1 at home . call me crazy or dumb but that s what i think
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby dj vitus on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:26 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
GoldHammish wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

Miami played great, great defense, and I'm not saying they weren't the better team... But damn it did feel like we got the short end of the stick in regards to the officiating.


They were running a layup drill out there and we couldn't get the ball below the 3 point line for most of the second half.... the Refs missed a couple both ways and gave a few "star" calls out but it didn't change the outcome IMO..... it's beyond a cop-out to blame the Refs..... especially when you turn the ball over 20 times and don't adjust to the defense or recognize your mismatches...

Lol, how do you adjust when they're getting phantom calls, free moving screens, free blocks with no fouls, and free out of bounds possessions? Also, I didn't see very many calls errantly go our way, unless you can point them out.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:27 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
dj vitus wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.


So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....

.....don't think he suggested anything even remotely close to that
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby dj vitus on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:28 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
dj vitus wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.


So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....

It's not a conspiracy. It's "elitism." "They're the Heat, they're good, so they deserve to get better calls. Milwaukee? Psh, who cares." I'll admit, I've seen Dwight get away with waaaaaaaaaay too many goaltends this season, but only against bad teams.
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Postby dj vitus on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:29 pm

I'll even admit we got a bunch of calls during our Shaq era against the Kings. :man10: That was pretty fun at the time, but sucks to be on the other end. :man11:
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:29 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

We lost for many reasons....TOs FTs etc. but the calls were also a factor. Come on roo, aggregate totals don't mean anything --it's the TIMELINESS of the calls and I'm sorry but the heat go some very timely calls. That being said, lakers should be glad to have even been in the game.


20 turnovers.... got killed in the paint.... missed 10 free throws...... didn't play to our strength (yet again).

Also when you are always attacking and being aggressive you get calls..... when you are shooting fade aways with 2 seconds on the shot clock you usually don't.....
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:31 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
dj vitus wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

That doesn't mean anything. There are other calls like out of bounds plays, traveling, goaltending, moving screen, etc. that make up 90% of it.


So was it a "conspiracy"? if so then why even watch if you KNOW the refs are going to ensure the Heat win?.... You can't go down that road half way.....

.....don't think he suggested anything even remotely close to that


You need to think it though.... either they are determining games or they are not.....
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Unknowndevil on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:33 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:For all of the "bellyaching" over the Refs..... we had fewer fouls (by 4) and more FT attempts (by 5).

The difference was when Nash was on the floor..... they had a plan for that and executed it to perfection on both ends. Combine that with fantastic defense and Miami was the better team.

We lost for many reasons....TOs FTs etc. but the calls were also a factor. Come on roo, aggregate totals don't mean anything --it's the TIMELINESS of the calls and I'm sorry but the heat go some very timely calls. That being said, lakers should be glad to have even been in the game.


20 turnovers.... got killed in the paint.... missed 10 free throws...... didn't play to our strength (yet again).

Also when you are always attacking and being aggressive you get calls..... when you are shooting fade aways with 2 seconds on the shot clock you usually don't.....


but you have to see 20 TO 16 come from first half and we lead by 1. But start third quarter every call is against Lakers Jamison and Pau attack inside got shoved no call while Lebron clearly charge to MWP and Pau are called blocking foul. Those call can really turn the game around.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:34 pm

I mean it's not black and white. I'm just saying that t isn't equally officiated. Not saying that they are vying for a particular "outcome".

Regardless we're lucky to be in the game. The refs sucked in the 2nd half, but had we hit FTs or TO'd less or played better D down the stretch (wtf on those ray Allen curls) we could have won
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:36 pm

you have a point unknowndevil
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:39 pm

Just don't think this team is built to play championship D :(

And possibly bc of coach. I mean miamis roster top to bottom is not much younger or equipped with any more elite Defenders than us, and look at that s*** tonight
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby odom1year on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:40 pm

tigerjeterkobe wrote:I am so pissed right now.

Nash, Gasol, and Metta did nothing in the clutch.

9 to ZERO run. Howard airballing a free throw. nice


Looks like Kobe did nothing wrong.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby CarFlagChris on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:43 pm

escobar8 wrote:pathetic finish...sad thing i aint surprised...


Not running the offense, Nash's crazy underhand shot; D12 missing foul shots.
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Maluco Beleza on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:49 pm

odom1year wrote:
tigerjeterkobe wrote:I am so pissed right now.

Nash, Gasol, and Metta did nothing in the clutch.

9 to ZERO run. Howard airballing a free throw. nice


Looks like Kobe did nothing wrong.



ok i'll say it terrible shooting all night up until the 4th quarter..
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Re: Thurs. 1/17 - Lakers vs Heat - Predictions & Comments

Postby Lakeshow24 on Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:04 am

LeBron was certainly balling enough on his own but the zebras were stroking him all game.
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