Wed. 1/11 @ Blazers - Results Inside - Postgame comments

B-Scott wrote:i agree kobe isnt to blame. Im just frustrated. Kobe does need to attack the basket,though when we are in the penalty. Thats a weakness he has to improve.i

He has been way too trigger happy from downtown lately but 13-29 shots is not a horrible percentage. I mean the guy has scored 40+in 5 straight games now. He is certainly not the reason we lose

bumrusherer wrote:

nameant wrote:

bumrusherer wrote:

Punk-101 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Ring It Up wrote:This is one of reason why Kobe isnt better than MJ. Could you imagine MJ launching up three after three after three? And he wasnt hitting?

we needed the 3. period. MJ had guys like Kukoc and Kerr that were great shooters. Kobe has Sasha and Smush around him. We had no defense, so only chance we would win would be Kobe hitting them.
On the other hand MJ would have lost a game like the Clipper game couple of days back.

...have to disagree. the blazers were out of fouls very early. we had about 6 min. left and were down by like 8-10 and kobe was jacking up 3's. he should have drove to the rack

Kobe go's to the line..makes 2...then the blazers go the other way and make 2.

how do you get back in the game like that?
We weren't getting enough stops to be able to have a situation where 2's would be enough

no man, it's all kobe's fault. 100%.

oh, ofcourse

Im not blaming kobe at all. he shouldnt have had to even play the 4th quarter had our D done its job. we should have had an easy W. Portland didnt score every time. If they did, they would have won by 15-20 cause we had a lot of misses down the stretch. it wouldnt have been matching 2 for 2. (almost, but not quite, our D did suck). Im just acknowledging that jacking up 3's is not smart, especially when you cant rely on your D to get a stop.

KB8@CL wrote:

Punk-101 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Ring It Up wrote:This is one of reason why Kobe isnt better than MJ. Could you imagine MJ launching up three after three after three? And he wasnt hitting?

we needed the 3. period. MJ had guys like Kukoc and Kerr that were great shooters. Kobe has Sasha and Smush around him. We had no defense, so only chance we would win would be Kobe hitting them.
On the other hand MJ would have lost a game like the Clipper game couple of days back.

...have to disagree. the blazers were out of fouls very early. we had about 6 min. left and were down by like 8-10 and kobe was jacking up 3's. he should have drove to the rack

to drive you need someone to oepn a lane. When you play a Mihm and Odom front court against Theo Rattliff and Randolph you suck. Kobe was defended really well. People act like Portland allowed him to do anything. What was bothering me was Blake and his defense and Ruben also played really physical. I´m the last one who wants Kobe to jack up 3s but in this case I can live with it, which doesn´t mean I like it by any means. some act like if we played steady we would have won. Not a chance. we needed wonder to win this game and it became obvious in the 3rd. We needed a surge, somehow a run and IMO the only way we could have won this game was Kobe shooting threes and maybe hitting him. He tried to win a lost game and he failed. Nothing I would go mad for because the game was lost anyway even without Kobe´s threes. You should talk to Sasha who has 4-5 reach in fouls every night (at least 3 in the penalty) because he gets raped by any guard left and right. Really nobody beside Kobe on this can hit a shot when we need it. Its all Kobe and nobody. Jax also sucked like I said. His subs were horrible and he refused to take them out and bring in Kwame and Bynum.

Good point. They were clogging up the lanes. The perimietr guys could not make outside shots.

Lamar was 6-8. Maybe we should abondone the triangle a little,and post him up. We dont give him enough post up chances. he was 6-8 from the field. get him more shots out the post.

KB8@CL wrote:

Punk-101 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:

Ring It Up wrote:This is one of reason why Kobe isnt better than MJ. Could you imagine MJ launching up three after three after three? And he wasnt hitting?

we needed the 3. period. MJ had guys like Kukoc and Kerr that were great shooters. Kobe has Sasha and Smush around him. We had no defense, so only chance we would win would be Kobe hitting them.
On the other hand MJ would have lost a game like the Clipper game couple of days back.

...have to disagree. the blazers were out of fouls very early. we had about 6 min. left and were down by like 8-10 and kobe was jacking up 3's. he should have drove to the rack

to drive you need someone to oepn a lane. When you play a Mihm and Odom front court against Theo Rattliff and Randolph you suck. Kobe was defended really well. People act like Portland allowed him to do anything. What was bothering me was Blake and his defense and Ruben also played really physical. I´m the last one who wants Kobe to jack up 3s but in this case I can live with it, which doesn´t mean I like it by any means. some act like if we played steady we would have won. Not a chance. we needed wonder to win this game and it became obvious in the 3rd. We needed a surge, somehow a run and IMO the only way we could have won this game was Kobe shooting threes and maybe hitting him. He tried to win a lost game and he failed. Nothing I would go mad for because the game was lost anyway even without Kobe´s threes. You should talk to Sasha who has 4-5 reach in fouls every night (at least 3 in the penalty) because he gets raped by any guard left and right. Really nobody beside Kobe on this can hit a shot when we need it. Its all Kobe and nobody. Jax also sucked like I said. His subs were horrible and he refused to take them out and bring in Kwame and Bynum.

Good point. They were clogging up the lanes. The perimietr guys could not make outside shots.

Lamar was 6-8. Maybe we should abondone the triangle a little,and post him up. We dont give him enough post up chances. he was 6-8 from the field. get him more shots out the post.

B-Scott wrote:
Good point. They were clogging up the lanes. The perimietr guys could not make outside shots.

Lamar was 6-8. Maybe we should abondone the triangle a little,and post him up. We dont give him enough post up chances. he was 6-8 from the field. get him more shots out the post.

Lamar was alright tonight, he should have been used in the post more. He just didnt play any defense.

Thats the only thing that bothers me with him.

bumrusherer wrote:

B-Scott wrote:
Good point. They were clogging up the lanes. The perimietr guys could not make outside shots.

Lamar was 6-8. Maybe we should abondone the triangle a little,and post him up. We dont give him enough post up chances. he was 6-8 from the field. get him more shots out the post.

Lamar was alright tonight, he should have been used in the post more. He just didnt play any defense.

Thats the only thing that bothers me with him.

didnt work the boards like he usually does either.

If I had to make 1 guy responsible for the loss it would be Sasha.
Everybody sucked on defense but Sasha was absolutely the most horrible guy on the floor IMO.

KB8@CL wrote:If I had to make 1 guy responsible for the loss it would be Sasha.
Everybody sucked on defense but Sasha was absolutely the most horrible guy on the floor IMO.

ill have to agree with u on that.. but u cant blame the WHOLE loss on Sasha.. our overall D was horrible... but Sasha was on the frikken floor for a loooooooong time and yet we got no production from him at all...

KB8@CL wrote:If I had to make 1 guy responsible for the loss it would be Sasha.
Everybody sucked on defense but Sasha was absolutely the most horrible guy on the floor IMO.

The lakers sucked tonight. Lets blame sasha

nameant wrote:

bumrusherer wrote:

B-Scott wrote:
Good point. They were clogging up the lanes. The perimietr guys could not make outside shots.

Lamar was 6-8. Maybe we should abondone the triangle a little,and post him up. We dont give him enough post up chances. he was 6-8 from the field. get him more shots out the post.

Lamar was alright tonight, he should have been used in the post more. He just didnt play any defense.

Thats the only thing that bothers me with him.

didnt work the boards like he usually does either.

True. Im beginning to warm up to Lamar for artest. I just want jeff foster also. I hear the clippers are close to getting artest. At LG,they are talking about Ron is supposed to meet with the clippers soon.

Lakerfan36 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:If I had to make 1 guy responsible for the loss it would be Sasha.
Everybody sucked on defense but Sasha was absolutely the most horrible guy on the floor IMO.

The lakers sucked tonight. Lets blame sasha

blaming the amazing kobe seems more common

I don;t want to blame Kobe for playing most of the time away from the basket...We all knows that we have 82 regular games and we are only 35 games, more than half more to come...

There is a high posibilitythat he got injured if he always attacking the ring everytime at this earlier part of the season, we are stil in the playoff spot at the moment...

How many times the defender hack him when he try to go to the basket for a lay up or a dunk...He is a receppient of a flagrant fouls many times. The main objective right now is to make the playoff and once we go to the play off, I'm 100% sure Kobe will play more agrssively and attacking the basket more..

our target is to make the play off.. not to get the number 1 seed...We have to understand that we must keep Kobe away from injury. That's the main reason why he is doing his work at the moment away from the basket, and he can still get his number(ave,34pg)..

If he got injured coz of agrssive play attacking the basket,, Our dreams of making to the playoff will remain as a dream.....Patience Laker Fans...Lets look forward to the play off and you will see Kobe attacking the Basket..That's for sure.......PEACE..I'm a Lakers Forever Fan...... Support KOBE for better n for worse

magicmoment wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:If I had to make 1 guy responsible for the loss it would be Sasha.
Everybody sucked on defense but Sasha was absolutely the most horrible guy on the floor IMO.

ill have to agree with u on that.. but u cant blame the WHOLE loss on Sasha.. our overall D was horrible... but Sasha was on the frikken floor for a loooooooong time and et we got no production from him at all...

Like I said the entire team was horrible. agree with you

MarkMadsen wrote:im worried about this game. Blazers havent been winning lately but they have playing hard. Zach Randolp is always tough to guard. And Ruben is gonna be extra prepared for Kobe.

We just have to not underrate them coming in. Dont play to their level.

sick_irony wrote:

Ring It Up wrote:This is one of reason why Kobe isnt better than MJ. Could you imagine MJ launching up three after three after three? And he wasnt hitting?

well Kobe had an off night from the 3 point range but the thing is MJ didn't have to shoot that many 3's because he had other options and one of them being pippen. Odom is no pippen, and BTW i believe Jordan had some off nights too but people don't think so for some reason.... everybody only remembers his clutch plays and his dunks but nobody remembers a Jordan off night and after Kobe retires nobody will remember a Kobe off night.

I will. i will remember it forever.

Lakerfan36 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:If I had to make 1 guy responsible for the loss it would be Sasha.
Everybody sucked on defense but Sasha was absolutely the most horrible guy on the floor IMO.

The lakers sucked tonight. Lets blame sasha

Tex Winter! He is the reason why Lakers lost.

sick_irony wrote:

Ring It Up wrote:This is one of reason why Kobe isnt better than MJ. Could you imagine MJ launching up three after three after three? And he wasnt hitting?

well Kobe had an off night from the 3 point range but the thing is MJ didn't have to shoot that many 3's because he had other options and one of them being pippen. Odom is no pippen, and BTW i believe Jordan had some off nights too but people don't think so for some reason.... everybody only remembers his clutch plays and his dunks but nobody remembers a Jordan off night and after Kobe retires nobody will remember a Kobe off night.

the detroit series will stay burned in my mind forever

I think this was a must win game, but Blazers were pretty hot shootin the ball - over 50%.
I think that was main loss reason.

Post game press conference: http://www.nba.com/media/blazers/nate1_11.mp3

Got it from blazers website

"Obviously when they're not going in, then it's time to stop," Jackson said. "We kept going."

Jackson said that about the team keep shooting 3s (4-21)

kolka wrote:

Lakerfan36 wrote:

KB8@CL wrote:If I had to make 1 guy responsible for the loss it would be Sasha.
Everybody sucked on defense but Sasha was absolutely the most horrible guy on the floor IMO.

The lakers sucked tonight. Lets blame sasha

Tex Winter! He is the reason why Lakers lost.

KB8@CL wrote:"Obviously when they're not going in, then it's time to stop," Jackson said. "We kept going."

Jackson said that about the team keep shooting 3s (4-21)

Yeah, we shot horrible from behind the arc.