10/8 Lakers Report: Farmar wants roster spot, Kwame's hands

10/8 Lakers Report: Farmar wants roster spot, Kwame's hands

Postby Vasashi17 on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:02 pm

Farmar is determined to play this season. He prefers the Lakers, but will play hard for the D-Fenders if it comes down to that.

Kwame hasn't dropped a ball in training camp yet!

Aaron McKie was back at practice today scrimmaging, so its not a definitive assumption that he will be bought out.

Be sure to check in for more updates throughout the day and into tomorrow.

The Los Angeles Daily News wrote:After all his teammates had left for the afternoon, Lakers rookie guard Jordan Farmar stayed on the practice court Saturday taking one jumper after another.

Those extra 15 minutes of work were a sure sign of Farmar’s determination. Even though he had to be back for a scrimmage in only five hours, Farmar would not leave the gym without feeling good about his shot.

Only six months after leading UCLA to the NCAA championship game, Farmar is starting over as a 19-year-old in the NBA. He played beyond his years on the Lakers’ summer-league team but knows nothing is guaranteed as a rookie.

With three other ball-handling guards on the roster - - Smush Parker, Sasha Vujacic and Shammond Williams - - Farmar might get his minutes in the NBA Development League this season. He could find himself on the inactive list more nights than not.

He might also be able to challenge for a role, especially if he can knock down his jumper with consistency. Farmar summed up his expectations for the season as ``just to be productive, whatever they need me for.’’

``If they’re not going to play me, to be a good teammate,’’ he added. ``If I’m going to play, I want to contribute as much as I can. I definitely want to play, I want to be out here and compete and make the guys ahead of me better so that we can improve as a team.

``If I’m pushing them and they’re pushing me, we’re going to improve along the way. That’s my goal is just to take it step by step and do what I’m asked to do. That’s part of being a professional. You have a job to do.’’

Farmar said he struggled a little with his shot in the first week of training camp. He had to remind himself to slow down a couple of times and make good decisions.

The Lakers also have worked with Farmar to change how he shoots. Farmar has a tendency to lean back slightly, which leaves his jumper coming up short. Now he is making a point of going up straight or leaning forward when he shoots.

Since the change, Farmar said he has had more strength on his shot and greater accuracy.

``I still go back to my old way a lot,’’ Farmar said. ``It’s just natural habit. I have to keep getting the repetitions and doing it over and over again.’’

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Sure-handed: After a season of watching center Kwame Brown sometimes fumble away passes out of bounds, assistant coach Kurt Rambis’ comment Saturday came almost as a revelation.

``To be honest with you, I don’t think that I’ve noticed him dropping the ball in this training camp,’’ Rambis said. ``Which is good, considering that most of this is a hack-fest out there.’’

Brown said he is not as ``wide-eyed’’ as he was first coming to the Lakers. His biggest challenge comes not only in catching the ball, but in slowing down once he has it.

``You can think about the spot that you’re supposed to be at all day long,’’ Brown said, ``and then you can’t do nothing without the rock.’’

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Injury report: Veteran guard Aaron McKie practiced after sitting out Friday with a sore back.

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Ross Siler's Summation of Day 5's training camp practice

The Lakers held their first two-a-day practices on Saturday. We had media access at the end of the morning session. The team was going to scrimmage when it reconvened in the evening. Assistant coach Kurt Rambis was encouraged about how the team looked going through a defensive drill built around standard NBA offensive sets.

``We got through that a lot faster than I thought we would,'' Rambis said.

The most exciting thing we saw was a set of drills in which the guards, forwards and centers worked in groups. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had the centers doing a drill in which they would take up the ball on the left side with their left hands while holding a weighted ball in their right hands.

Then they would switch the weighted ball from their right to their left hands, catch the regular ball with their right hands and take it up on the right side. Repeat a couple of dozen times. It's a test of coordination. With all the questions about his hands, Kwame Brown seemed to do it pretty well.

I posted a couple of weeks ago in response to a question about how many minutes Jordan Farmar will get as a rookie. It's all up to how well Farmar plays and, especially, how he shoots. The over-under should be 11.6 minutes, which is the average for a rookie on a Phil Jackson-coached team.
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Postby Klewfish on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:05 pm

Fantastic. Kwame will be that much more productive if he can hold on to the ball.
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Postby trodgers on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:07 pm

I'll take the under on Farmar unless it's concentrated at the end of the year without him playing at all the first half of the season or so.
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Postby nicehair911 on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:42 pm

It it just me or do we only recieve good news?
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Postby Lakers Dynasty 2000 on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:45 pm

Very good news. I'm lovin' all of this!
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Postby KiDLaK3R on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:50 pm

nicehair911 wrote:It it just me or do we only recieve good news?


Have you been following anything at all? yesterday it said Mihm might not be with us in the Opener which is not good news.
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Postby JSM on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:55 pm

Well, you have to like/respect Farmer's determination and dedication out there, I just don't think it's enough to earn him a spot over the other guards in front of him. At least not this season.

And the reason Kwame hasn't dropped a pass...he probably hasn't had the ball thrown to him yet. :man10:
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Postby Barnstable on Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:55 pm

nicehair911 wrote:It it just me or do we only recieve good news?

No, it just seems like that because the practices have been going so well, and players have been addressing many problems from last year (LO's leadership, Kwame's hands, etc

The bad is the number of fouls given, and all the injuries.
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Postby jbiggs on Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:46 pm

i love the kwame news :jam2:
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Postby Vasashi17 on Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:05 pm

More from Kwame

The Associated Press wrote:Simply catching the ball was a challenge for Kwame Brown last season. Through five days of training camp with the Los Angeles Lakers, that's something he now has a handle on.

It's all about comfort.

"It's not thinking as much," Brown said after practice Saturday. "I'm not as anxious. You can't do anything without the ball. You can think about the spot you're supposed to be at all day long, but you can't do anything without the rock.

"So, I've just basically been trying to slow down. I'm not as wide-eyed as I was last year."

Brown came to his first Lakers camp a year ago as a power forward, but the team soon realized he was better suited to play center.

Brown, the No. 1 pick in the 2001 NBA draft by the Washington Wizards, averaged 7.4 points and 6.6 rebounds last season. He said he worked out running stairs over the summer to get in better condition for this year.

Chris Mihm, who started most of last season at center for the Lakers, is recuperating from offseason ankle surgery.

"Right now, everybody is pretty much saying I'm the starting center," Brown said. "But you've got to realize that Chris did it all season long, so I'm not looking at it like I'm the starting center. I'm looking at it as everybody is equal and we've got to fight for our jobs.

"I'm ready for him to come back healthy and we go at it and that'll make us better. He's going to push me and I'm going to push him."
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Postby Klewfish on Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:36 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:More from Kwame

The Associated Press wrote:Simply catching the ball was a challenge for Kwame Brown last season. Through five days of training camp with the Los Angeles Lakers, that's something he now has a handle on.

It's all about comfort.

"It's not thinking as much," Brown said after practice Saturday. "I'm not as anxious. You can't do anything without the ball. You can think about the spot you're supposed to be at all day long, but you can't do anything without the rock.

"So, I've just basically been trying to slow down. I'm not as wide-eyed as I was last year."

Brown came to his first Lakers camp a year ago as a power forward, but the team soon realized he was better suited to play center.

Brown, the No. 1 pick in the 2001 NBA draft by the Washington Wizards, averaged 7.4 points and 6.6 rebounds last season. He said he worked out running stairs over the summer to get in better condition for this year.

Chris Mihm, who started most of last season at center for the Lakers, is recuperating from offseason ankle surgery.

"Right now, everybody is pretty much saying I'm the starting center," Brown said. "But you've got to realize that Chris did it all season long, so I'm not looking at it like I'm the starting center. I'm looking at it as everybody is equal and we've got to fight for our jobs.

"I'm ready for him to come back healthy and we go at it and that'll make us better. He's going to push me and I'm going to push him."


Is that Kwame showing the beginnings of a work ethic? and feeling like he has to earn playing time and it shouldn't be given to him?

If it's true, I am impressed.
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Postby slimjim on Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:43 pm

LakersKB24LO7 wrote:
Vasashi17 wrote:More from Kwame

The Associated Press wrote:Simply catching the ball was a challenge for Kwame Brown last season. Through five days of training camp with the Los Angeles Lakers, that's something he now has a handle on.

It's all about comfort.

"It's not thinking as much," Brown said after practice Saturday. "I'm not as anxious. You can't do anything without the ball. You can think about the spot you're supposed to be at all day long, but you can't do anything without the rock.

"So, I've just basically been trying to slow down. I'm not as wide-eyed as I was last year."

Brown came to his first Lakers camp a year ago as a power forward, but the team soon realized he was better suited to play center.

Brown, the No. 1 pick in the 2001 NBA draft by the Washington Wizards, averaged 7.4 points and 6.6 rebounds last season. He said he worked out running stairs over the summer to get in better condition for this year.

Chris Mihm, who started most of last season at center for the Lakers, is recuperating from offseason ankle surgery.

"Right now, everybody is pretty much saying I'm the starting center," Brown said. "But you've got to realize that Chris did it all season long, so I'm not looking at it like I'm the starting center. I'm looking at it as everybody is equal and we've got to fight for our jobs.

"I'm ready for him to come back healthy and we go at it and that'll make us better. He's going to push me and I'm going to push him."


Is that Kwame showing the beginnings of a work ethic? and feeling like he has to earn playing time and it shouldn't be given to him?

If it's true, I am impressed.


he's always been a hard worker hasn't he?
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Postby The Maverick on Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:56 pm

slimjim wrote:
LakersKB24LO7 wrote:
Vasashi17 wrote:More from Kwame

The Associated Press wrote:Simply catching the ball was a challenge for Kwame Brown last season. Through five days of training camp with the Los Angeles Lakers, that's something he now has a handle on.

It's all about comfort.

"It's not thinking as much," Brown said after practice Saturday. "I'm not as anxious. You can't do anything without the ball. You can think about the spot you're supposed to be at all day long, but you can't do anything without the rock.

"So, I've just basically been trying to slow down. I'm not as wide-eyed as I was last year."

Brown came to his first Lakers camp a year ago as a power forward, but the team soon realized he was better suited to play center.

Brown, the No. 1 pick in the 2001 NBA draft by the Washington Wizards, averaged 7.4 points and 6.6 rebounds last season. He said he worked out running stairs over the summer to get in better condition for this year.

Chris Mihm, who started most of last season at center for the Lakers, is recuperating from offseason ankle surgery.

"Right now, everybody is pretty much saying I'm the starting center," Brown said. "But you've got to realize that Chris did it all season long, so I'm not looking at it like I'm the starting center. I'm looking at it as everybody is equal and we've got to fight for our jobs.

"I'm ready for him to come back healthy and we go at it and that'll make us better. He's going to push me and I'm going to push him."


Is that Kwame showing the beginnings of a work ethic? and feeling like he has to earn playing time and it shouldn't be given to him?

If it's true, I am impressed.


he's always been a hard worker hasn't he?


No.
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Postby MikeLG on Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:49 pm

he's always been a hard worker hasn't he?


Only on his physique.... not on his skills.
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Postby KB24 on Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:59 pm

great news :bow:

well I´m a huge Kwame fan since day 1 he entered the league. Even as a Wizzard I liked him because he is such an impressive speciman.

I sure hope he can find a rhythem early in the season :jam2:
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Postby Vasashi17 on Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:19 am

And a little bit more on Kwame's approach and impression to this season....

The Los Angeles Times wrote:Kwame Brown smiles.

"Yes," he says after exhaling, he is definitely feeling more relaxed these days.

He was trying to do everything in a hurry a year ago, moving at a painfully blurry speed whenever the ball came his way in the post. If he actually managed to secure the ball instead of fumbling it — a 50-50 proposition at times — he would begin his post moves awkwardly and rapidly, often ending with an off-balance shot.

He has now been handed the title of the Lakers' starting center, one he hopes not to drop. He says he has changed, calling the difference from a year ago "like night and day."

"Just not thinking as much, not as anxious," he said. "You can't do nothing without the rock. I'm just basically trying to slow down. I'm not as wide-eyed as I was last year."

Brown would have been an important key to a successful season before it became apparent Chris Mihm would not be ready for the start of training camp. Now, many eyes will be on Brown, who delivered in Mihm's absence toward the end of last season and will be expected to do so even more this season.

Brown averaged 13.6 points and 9.2 rebounds in the team's final 13 regular-season games, following it up with a slightly less exemplary 12.9-point, 6.6-rebound average in the playoffs.

A day after last season ended, Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak challenged Brown by saying, "My understanding is that he has not put as much time into his game during the off-season as he should."

So Brown became a fairly frequent visitor to the team training facility, although he wished he could have done more.

"I understand that he wanted to see us in here, but there were no guys in there playing," Brown said. "That's the one thing I wish that we could change. If you want us to be here, try and get some games going because there's not a lot of games going here. You can work out, you can do all the shots and skill work, and you're still behind the eight-ball because there's no playing."

Now in his sixth season, Brown can't afford to fall behind if he is going to be a meaningful post presence for an entire season.

"You can tell that he's much more relaxed out there," Lakers assistant coach Kurt Rambis said. "He has a better understanding of what we want to do. We just need him to keep growing as a ball player. Part of his job is to make sure that he controls the lane for us — defends, rebounds — and starts expanding his offense."

As for his hands?

"He's doing a good job of catching the ball," Rambis said. "To be honest with you, I don't think that I've noticed him dropping the ball in training camp, which is good, considering that most of this is a hack-fest out there. You've got grabbing and holding and they're smacking and slapping."


Phil Jackson's fill-in, Kurt Rambis, evoked a lot of laughs at the end of the Saturday morning practice by jokingly complaining about Lakers rehab specialist Chip Schaefer lingering diligently with Chris Mihm on the StairMaster instead of joining the big post-practice huddle. "We don't care about him -- he's injured!" Rambis yelled.


Coach Rambis just might have shown the Lakers hand with that comment about Mihm. Either way, I hope he completely recovers from his injury so that he can either help us or help us via helping another team...if you catch what I'm saying.

But what I like the most is that he challenges Mitch's comments. In fact I'll one up Kwame..."My understanding is that he has not put as much time into his game during the off-season as he should." Well, its "my understanding" that instead of Mitch directing this to others, it should be his own personal mantra until he shows everybody the time put into "his game" during the off-season was well spent.
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Postby Edge on Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:05 am

Don't you guys see it? It's so obvious..

Our team leader is Kobe Bean Bryant.

Thus, there's no place for people who don't work hard on this team.

Isn't impressive to read that everyone is working hard? Even Kwame who always had a reputation as a lousy worker.

Well, all of them worked hard except for Odom but he had a tragedy so.. :man5:
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Postby snakepit on Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:39 am

good news, we need a great start with all those home games early in the season.
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Postby wavy on Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:41 am

hopefully kwame can make a big difference this season. the guy has what it takes to be a supeerstar.
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Postby badboyhoward on Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:54 am

to laker fans don't expect a lot from kwame.
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Postby Weezy on Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:58 am

badboyhoward wrote:to laker fans don't expect a lot from kwame.


Um yeah, thanks for that.
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Postby #1_Kobe_fan on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:18 pm

Its called CONTRACT YEAR. What ever it is at least he's putting forth something extra.
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Postby Satan on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:44 pm

#1_Kobe_fan wrote:Its called CONTRACT YEAR. What ever it is at least he's putting forth something extra.


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Postby Weezy on Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:59 pm

#1_Kobe_fan wrote:Its called CONTRACT YEAR. What ever it is at least he's putting forth something extra.


You realize this was from a year ago right? :man3:
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Postby *wishlist* on Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:01 pm

?????

confused as to why reply to a thread from last year's training camp? errr, what extra is he putting forth?
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