Athletic Testing Results

Athletic Testing Results

Postby JSM on Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:52 pm

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/

Chad Ford of ESPN wrote:Syracuse's Jonny Flynn shocked everyone by recording the biggest maximum vertical with an impressive 40 inches. He was the only player to crack the 40-inch mark. (Last year, six players did.) Four other players scored 38 or more inches in the maximum vertical jump: France's Rodrigue Beaubois (39), USC's DeMar DeRozan (38.5), Arizona's Chase Budinger (38.5) and UNC's Wayne Ellington (38). Meanwhile, Gonzaga's Austin Daye (28) and Maryland's Greivis Vasquez (26.5) had the two worst scores in the camp.

Notre Dame's Luke Harangody and Oklahoma's Blake Griffin tested as the strongest athletes in the camp. Harangody bench-pressed 185 pounds 23 times, and Griffin did 22 reps. One other player, Xavier's Derrick Brown, got the bar up 20 times. Daye followed in Kevin Durant's footsteps by being unable to lift the bar once. Vasquez was able to get the bar up only once, and Israel's Omri Casspi got the bar up only twice.

In the lane-agility test, Miami's Jack McClinton had the best score, finishing the drill in 10.44 seconds. UCLA's Darren Collison was a close second at 10.45 seconds. Arizona's Jordan Hill finished dead last with a score of 12.23 seconds. Daye wasn't much ahead of him at 12.11 seconds.

In the three-quarter-court sprints, Florida State's Toney Douglas led the way with a blinding 3.03-second run. Damion James was second at 3.09, and Daye was last at 3.55.

Winners

• Beaubois probably put up the best numbers across the board, as he showed great leaping ability, speed and quickness.

• Flynn confirmed why he has been such a hot name, as his scores were strong across the board.

• Arizona State's James Harden also proved to be a pretty impressive athlete. His numbers didn't quite measure up to what Brandon Roy did a few years ago, but he bested Roy in the lateral quickness and sprint drills. He's definitely not the bad athlete a number of NBA teams thought he was.

Harden also measures up fairly close to Roy, who is only an inch taller. Harden has a longer wingspan and bested Roy in standing reach by two and a half inches.

• The same holds true for UNC's Tyler Hansbrough, who put up better numbers than many of the bigs who were considered more athletic in college (read: Louisville's Earl Clark, USC's Taj Gibson and Gonzaga's Josh Heytvelt). In fact, his numbers look better than those of Jordan Hill of Arizona in every area but vertical jump.

• The draft's top prospect, Blake Griffin, represented. His 35.5-inch vertical was far from historic but it put him on par with Amare Stoudemire. His lane-agility drill was excellent, putting him in the top 10 percent for power forwards. Others with similar scores include David Lee and Danny Granger.

His sprint score was in the middle of the pack and put him in the same league as Nick Collison and Mike Sweetney and just hundreds of a second off Stoudemire. However, a sore back may have contributed to this.

Overall, Griffin's numbers were good, but not great. But when you watch him in a game, you can tell he's still going to be a monster.

Losers

• Daye looked great in drills, but he was terrible in the athletic testing. However, I wouldn't read too much into it; Kevin Durant looked terrible two years ago but turned out OK.

• DeRozan was supposed to be one of the best athletes in the draft. Although his vertical jump score was impressive, what's up with those very poor lane-agility and sprint scores?

• Memphis' Tyreke Evans didn't really help himself, either. His vertical jump score was decent, but his lane-agility test was just awful for someone who's supposed to be a point guard in the pros. As his sprint score shows, he's great going north and south. But when he has to move side-to-side? Ugh. Of course, Derrick Rose's score of 11.69 last year wasn't much better, and he turned out OK.

Other

• Lots has been made about the speed of this year's point guards, with many teams debating whether Darren Collison, Patrick Mills or Ty Lawson would take the prize in the three-quarter-court sprint. None of them did.

Toney Douglas had the fastest time at 3.03 seconds. Collison and Mills were tied for second at 3.1, Lawson was fourth at 3.12, Beaubois was fifth at 3.15, Evans was sixth at 3.17, Jeff Teague was seventh at 3.18, Eric Maynor was ninth at 3.19 and Jrue Holiday was 10th at 3.21. Surprisingly, Flynn didn't make the top 10.

How do those numbers rate historically? Douglas had the sixth-best time in combine history. The most successful NBA player to beat him is Nate Robinson at 2.96 seconds. The 3.1 score of Collison and Mills puts them on par with Kirk Hinrich, Jay Williams and Russell Westbrook.

• UCLA's Jrue Holiday often gets compared to his teammate Russell Westbrook. How did they fare in the athletic category?

Westbrook measured 36.5 inches on his vertical jump, while Holiday hit 34 inches. Westbrook also got the best of Holiday in the sprint, measuring a blazing 3.08 seconds to Holiday's solid 3.23 seconds. Westbrook also benched the 185-pound bar 12 times to Holiday's six times.

However, Holiday bested Westbrook on the lane-agility drill with a pretty impressive 10.64-second score. Westbrook's score was 10.98 seconds.

Overall, it's pretty clear that Westbrook is a better athlete, but Holiday isn't too shabby either.

• Want a good NBA comparison for DeJuan Blair? Try the Warriors' Ronny Turiaf. Turiaf is taller, but both players have the same standing reach. They also have the same lane-agility score, same vertical jump and similar sprint and bench-press scores.
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Re: Athletic Testing Results

Postby JSM on Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:39 pm

Mike DeStefano of NBA Draft.net wrote:
You’ve got to respect Blake Griffin, James Harden, and Jordan Hill for participating while fellow lottery picks Ricky Rubio, Hasheem Thabeet, and Brandon Jennings did not. It’s disappointing that we don’t get a chance to see how this year’s best all stack up against each other, but we can analyze what we have.

People make a big deal about the fact that Griffin measured at 6’10” in shoes, but the things that will make Blake a nightmare at the next level are his speed and agility. His 10.95 in the lane agility test and 3.28 in the ¾ court sprint were right there with the likes of Jonny Flynn, a player considered to be one of the most athletic point guards in college basketball this past year. He also recorded 22 reps on the bench press, good for 2nd best at the combine. Not like it matters; Griffin could have put up Austin Daye – numbers and would still go #1.

No projected lottery player was more surprising at the combine than James Harden. Many scouting reports on Harden say that he’s not athletic, but his results say otherwise. First, he recorded a 37” vertical and reached the same maximum height (11’8.5”) as Blake Griffin. Second, he ran a 3.13 sprint, which was only one hundredth behind speedster Ty Lawson, and repped 17 on the bench press. It’s been reported that the Thunder are considering him at #3. With no more reservations about his athleticism, is this enough for Harden to leapfrog Rubio?

Hill was up and down at the combine. On one hand, his standing reach (9’0”), body fat (6%), and maximum height (11’11”) were impressive. His 3.3 sprint was actually faster than several wing players as well. On the other, he recorded the worst agility score at the combine and only repped 11 on the bench. With the way the game has evolved, most NBA PFs are stronger and more agile than Hill, so he has some work to do physically.

Point Guards

Don’t be fooled by that baby face; just because Stephen Curry looks like a 12-year-old, it doesn’t mean he has the body of one. Surprisingly, he reached ten reps in the bench (honestly, who thought he’d get past 3?) and had the same vertical as Mr. Griffin. While his speed and agility weren’t on par with other PGs, his IQ will help to make up for it at the next level.

Jeff Teague only has 4.5% body fat and repped 13 on the bench, both impressive numbers for the underclassmen. He also recorded a 36.5” vertical leap.

Two surprises with Ty Lawson: his vertical (36.5”) and the fact that five guys posted faster times in the sprint. Just the opposite, there were no surprises with Eric Maynor or Jonny Flynn. Flynn’s 40-inch vertical was best at the combine.

Toney Douglas was the fastest player at the combine (3.03 on the sprint) while Jack McClinton was most agile.

Wings

Considering what a physical specimen Gerald Henderson looks like, his 8 reps on the bench and 11.17 agility time can only be deemed disappointing. His 4.4% body fat (best in the combine) is impressive, though.

Demar Derozan is an elite jumper, not an elite athlete. His max vertical of 38.5” was good for 3rd best at the combine, but his bench press (5 reps), agility (11.88 – terrible for a wing), and sprint (3.31) left much to be desired.

Earl Clark’s measurements (6’10.25,” standing reach 9’1.25”) were excellent, but five reps on the bench press are weak.

One of the most impressive players at the combine was Xavier’s Derrick Brown. Brown was considered a potential lottery pick earlier this year, but his stock plummeted. While his 3.13 in the sprint, 20 reps on the bench, and maximum height of 11’11” won’t catapult him back into the lottery, those numbers are impressive enough to make some teams think.

Wayne Ellington was always known for his fluid game, but his measurements should eliminate any concerns about his size and athleticism. He is over 6’5” in shoes, has a vertical leap of 38 inches, and pumped 185 lbs 13 times.

Austin Daye and Greivis Vasquez had the worst performances of the combine by far. Neither player exhibited the speed, strength, or jumping ability necessary to make an impact at the next level.

Bigs

Dejuan Blair had only 12% body fat, which was the same as Wake’s James Johnson. Looking at them, you’d never guess they’d have equal body fat. Blair’s 18 bench reps and decent agility numbers coupled with his incredible wingspan make him an intriguing prospect.

A big man that helped himself a lot is Luke Harangody. He turned out to be the strongest player at the combine (23 reps) while posting solid numbers in the sprint and agility tests.
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Re: Athletic Testing Results

Postby laakers on Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:25 pm

thanks a lot for posting, i enjoyed reading
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Re: Athletic Testing Results

Postby karacha on Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:55 am

So... Austin Daye is not fast, can not jump... but at least he's compensating for that by not being able to lift 180 lbs once?

Nice.
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Re: Athletic Testing Results

Postby Piston Boris on Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:55 pm

Good info.

Athleticism isn't as important as skill, though.

Unfortunately, just about everyone has holes in their skill sets...
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