Who would it take to trade up and get Ronnie Brewer?

Who would it take to trade up and get Ronnie Brewer?

Postby DamonBoost on Sun May 07, 2006 9:31 pm

Could it be done with say Mihm and George/Cook? Mihm/Smush?

We traded Vlade for the Kobe pick..
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Postby halekulani on Sun May 07, 2006 9:35 pm

wait for corey brewer next year.
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Postby The Kobe Era 2K5 on Mon May 08, 2006 3:18 am

I'd say McKie + Lakers 1st round pick for higher pick in late lottery.
BTW here's Brewer's scouting reports:
Ronnie Brewer (PG/SG/SF)-Arkansas University

Height: 6'7
Weight: 200 lbs


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Brewer is one of the most versatile players in college basketball A legit 6-7 point guard, he can control the tempo of the game, defend three positions, set up his teammates wonderfully and fill up every part of the stat sheet. Brewer has all the physical attributes down pat.

He's a very good athlete, extremely fluid, possesses an excellent first step, good leaping ability, superb body control and very good overall speed. He's more of a long jumper than he is a high jumper, and even though he might not wow you with his explosiveness on first sight, he grows on you with how well-rounded he is athletically and just how well he uses that athleticism to make plays.

Brewer has an NBA-ready body, possessing good size and strength, enabling him to play any of the 1-3 positions. He has an outstanding wingspan and big, quick hands that he uses to come up with a couple of steals each game. It seems as if he can run around screens for days and never tire.

Offensively, Brewer is mostly a slasher and shot-creator thanks to his fantastic ball-handling skills. Being highly fluid and extremely intelligent, he can dribble the ball with purpose using either hand, allowing him to get into the lane almost whenever he pleases.

He's extremely aggressive attacking the rim and is a great finisher once he gets to the basket, being very creative and having the strength, toughness and intelligence to either finish the play or get to the line. Brewer's game is not limited to only slashing, though. He can also score from behind the arc or by stopping and popping for the mid-range jump shot.

He's very patient with the ball in his hands, letting the game come to him. Playing up-tempo and/or in transition is where he excels the most. As you would expect from a legit 6'7 point guard, Brewer's court vision is superb. He understands how to feed the post and usually puts the ball exactly where his teammates want it.


In terms of passing, he has the entire package: he can drive and dish, pass from static positions or be flashy and throw a pinpoint lob pass for an alley-oop from behind the three point line. He's extremely unselfish, almost to a fault at times, but really knows how to make his teammates better.

Defensively, Brewer usually guards the opposing team's best perimeter player and has all the tools in the world to be a shut-down defender; including strength, length, superb instincts, excellent hands and footwork. He has great reflexes and an amazing knack for anticipating what the opposing team will do next, being a constant threat in the passing lanes because of that. Brewer's intangibles are excellent.

He has an outstanding demeanor on the court and carries himself extremely well. He's a glue-type guy with endless energy that is willing to do whatever it takes to help his team go home with the win, having the kind of attitude you love to see from such a talented player. Despite the fact that he's a legit college basketball star, he has no problem doing the little things like taking charges and diving on the floor for loose balls.

By all accounts he's an extremely hard worker that is constantly looking to improve his game. Brewer's weaknesses mostly revolve around his projected position in the NBA and the role he's currently being asked to play for his college team. People who didn't see much of him play much before his junior year might wonder where his point guard skills are since he doesn't handle the ball or set up his teammates as much as he did earlier in his college career.

He would be ideal in a role similar to how Dwyane Wade plays in Miami or Manu Ginobili in San Antonio, but there aren't many teams who would allow him to do so. In this, his junior season, Brewer has been more of a small forward as opposed to the playmaker he was in his first two seasons, but he's better when he has the ball in hands so he can create offense for himself and his teammates off the dribble.

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Postby High IQ on Mon May 08, 2006 4:48 am

DO IT MITCH
but no way mckie + 1st for the lottery pick. George/Mihm + 1st, then maybe.
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Postby Azndude2190 on Mon May 08, 2006 4:35 pm

Are 1st Rounder+DG???
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Postby The Kobe Era 2K5 on Tue May 09, 2006 1:44 am

Actually for Brewer I'd give George + draft pick, cuz he's worth it.
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Postby trodgers on Tue May 09, 2006 6:19 am

If Mihm and a 1st could get him, it might be worth it.
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Postby KAMILLION on Tue May 16, 2006 10:24 am

I truthfully haven't seen him play. If the scouts are correct, He sounds great, like a young Penny or maybe play the Scottie Pippen role in the Tri. Teams always over value their high draft picks. So in no way do I think Mihm and a 26 could do it. Is it a honest offer in reality? Yes. However, teams want your entire kingdom for a Lotto pick.

That being said, if he can be had, it needs to get done.
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Postby LakersChamps04 on Tue May 16, 2006 10:41 am

dam...i wet my pants reading that....PLZ DO IT MITCH....he looks like a very GOOD player...im gonna do some more research on him
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Postby NormNix on Tue May 16, 2006 7:13 pm

Brewer looks to be projected to be no later than 12. The earliest I've seen him going is 8 to the rockets.

So let's assume he's in the 10th, 11th, or 12th

that's

Seattle
Orlando
New Orleans

Can any of these teams use Mihm?
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Postby Nelo Ice on Tue May 16, 2006 7:16 pm

NormNix wrote:Brewer looks to be projected to be no later than 12. The earliest I've seen him going is 8 to the rockets.

So let's assume he's in the 10th, 11th, or 12th

that's

Seattle
Orlando
New Orleans

Can any of these teams use Mihm?


new orleans since p.j. brown is getting old and they could use a solid starting big
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Postby kobe4pres08 on Tue May 16, 2006 9:08 pm

Isn't he the one that shoots funny due to some physical defect?????
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Postby NormNix on Fri May 19, 2006 10:33 am

kobe4pres08 wrote:Isn't he the one that shoots funny due to some physical defect?????


yeah. elbow
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Postby NormNix on Fri May 19, 2006 10:35 am

Nelo Ice wrote:
NormNix wrote:Brewer looks to be projected to be no later than 12. The earliest I've seen him going is 8 to the rockets.

So let's assume he's in the 10th, 11th, or 12th

that's

Seattle
Orlando
New Orleans

Can any of these teams use Mihm?


new orleans since p.j. brown is getting old and they could use a solid starting big


So the next question is, why wouldn't the sonics take him? I can see orlando passing on him. But seattle is currently the highest pick between them.
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Postby Alleyhoops on Fri May 19, 2006 11:08 am

The Kobe Era 2K5 wrote:I'd say McKie + Lakers 1st round pick for higher pick in late lottery.
BTW here's Brewer's scouting reports:
Ronnie Brewer (PG/SG/SF)-Arkansas University

Height: 6'7
Weight: 200 lbs


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Brewer is one of the most versatile players in college basketball A legit 6-7 point guard, he can control the tempo of the game, defend three positions, set up his teammates wonderfully and fill up every part of the stat sheet. Brewer has all the physical attributes down pat.

He's a very good athlete, extremely fluid, possesses an excellent first step, good leaping ability, superb body control and very good overall speed. He's more of a long jumper than he is a high jumper, and even though he might not wow you with his explosiveness on first sight, he grows on you with how well-rounded he is athletically and just how well he uses that athleticism to make plays.

Brewer has an NBA-ready body, possessing good size and strength, enabling him to play any of the 1-3 positions. He has an outstanding wingspan and big, quick hands that he uses to come up with a couple of steals each game. It seems as if he can run around screens for days and never tire.

Offensively, Brewer is mostly a slasher and shot-creator thanks to his fantastic ball-handling skills. Being highly fluid and extremely intelligent, he can dribble the ball with purpose using either hand, allowing him to get into the lane almost whenever he pleases.

He's extremely aggressive attacking the rim and is a great finisher once he gets to the basket, being very creative and having the strength, toughness and intelligence to either finish the play or get to the line. Brewer's game is not limited to only slashing, though. He can also score from behind the arc or by stopping and popping for the mid-range jump shot.

He's very patient with the ball in his hands, letting the game come to him. Playing up-tempo and/or in transition is where he excels the most. As you would expect from a legit 6'7 point guard, Brewer's court vision is superb. He understands how to feed the post and usually puts the ball exactly where his teammates want it.


In terms of passing, he has the entire package: he can drive and dish, pass from static positions or be flashy and throw a pinpoint lob pass for an alley-oop from behind the three point line. He's extremely unselfish, almost to a fault at times, but really knows how to make his teammates better.

Defensively, Brewer usually guards the opposing team's best perimeter player and has all the tools in the world to be a shut-down defender; including strength, length, superb instincts, excellent hands and footwork. He has great reflexes and an amazing knack for anticipating what the opposing team will do next, being a constant threat in the passing lanes because of that. Brewer's intangibles are excellent.

He has an outstanding demeanor on the court and carries himself extremely well. He's a glue-type guy with endless energy that is willing to do whatever it takes to help his team go home with the win, having the kind of attitude you love to see from such a talented player. Despite the fact that he's a legit college basketball star, he has no problem doing the little things like taking charges and diving on the floor for loose balls.

By all accounts he's an extremely hard worker that is constantly looking to improve his game. Brewer's weaknesses mostly revolve around his projected position in the NBA and the role he's currently being asked to play for his college team. People who didn't see much of him play much before his junior year might wonder where his point guard skills are since he doesn't handle the ball or set up his teammates as much as he did earlier in his college career.

He would be ideal in a role similar to how Dwyane Wade plays in Miami or Manu Ginobili in San Antonio, but there aren't many teams who would allow him to do so. In this, his junior season, Brewer has been more of a small forward as opposed to the playmaker he was in his first two seasons, but he's better when he has the ball in hands so he can create offense for himself and his teammates off the dribble.


If you're gonna post his report, be thorough and post the whole thang:

"Weaknesses: A childhood water slide accident left him with a small bone protruding from his triceps area which has created an abnormal shooting form ... Not a great spot up shooter, makes most of his shots moving towards the basket, a rhythm shooter ... Much quicker than he is athletic, wont wow you with monster dunks, but not a bad leaper ... Mostly effective with the ball in his hands, so some feel he must dominate the ball to be effective ..."
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Postby rydjorker121 on Mon May 22, 2006 11:04 pm

I like Brewer as well, and the fact that his stock has been relatively stagnant (he is not getting as much hype anymore as scouts tend to believe he is looking more and more like a role player) may bode well for us. Granted, he's still a pick between #10 and #15 most likely, but if we really like him, I can see trading up a possibility (perhaps getting rid of someone like Chris Mihm in the process).

Even though Brewer has inherently flawed shooting mechanics, he's an okay shooter but what I really value most about his game is his all-around game; he can be a versatile triangle threat for us with his great passing skills from the wing position. He's not an uber-athlete, but he is fairly quick and can certainly high-rise for some good looking dunks. And of course, he is long, agile and always looking to wreak havoc on the passing lanes, another aspect I like, as he gets many deflections and gets roughly over 2 steals a game. His defense, his height and his versatility are certainly valued in our offense.
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Postby TaniBoyz on Tue May 23, 2006 2:17 am

just wait for Oden
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Postby KB24 on Tue May 23, 2006 12:22 pm

k0pr0phage wrote:If Mihm and a 1st could get him, it might be worth it.

I would do it. I´m a hige Brewer fan. He is exactly what Jax needs in the triangle.
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Postby rscogold on Wed May 24, 2006 3:21 am

would you deal Mihm+McKie+#26 for #9+Foyle?
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Postby KB24 on Wed May 24, 2006 3:56 am

rscogold wrote:would you deal Mihm+McKie+#26 for #9+Foyle?

no way. Foyble is a terrible ugly bigman with an even uglier contract.
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Postby The Kobe Era 2K5 on Wed May 24, 2006 4:34 am

rscogold wrote:would you deal Mihm+McKie+#26 for #9+Foyle?

I'd never try to get Foyle.
He can't catch pass and his contract is ugly.
I'd rather to get Latvian Andris Biedrins! :man1:
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Postby GCMD on Wed May 24, 2006 11:02 am

Chris Mihm could get it but then the team would have to be assured that he's going to resign for cheap next year...


He could be valuable as a deadline trading piece or next summer in a S&T...


NOH and ORL would be the people most interested...is Mihm better than what they could get in this draft?


Where would Mihm fall in this draft?


That's how high you could trade up to...
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