Andre Miller Suspended 2 Games for Yelling at B-Shaw

Andre Miller Suspended 2 Games for Yelling at B-Shaw

Postby revgen on Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:02 pm

Nuggets suspend Andre Miller after yelling at Brian Shaw

The Denver Nuggets suspended veteran guard Andre Miller two games Thursday, one day after he blew up at coach Brian Shaw on the sideline.

Miller was a healthy scratch for Wednesday's 114-102 loss to the Philadelphia 76ers, the first "did not play — coach's decision" line of Miller's 15-year career. He took out his frustrations on first-year coach Shaw, yelling at him during the game.

"There's a time and place for everything," Shaw said, via The Denver Post. "In the middle of the arena in front of everyone ... I just tried to calm it down."

General manager Tim Connelly cited "conduct detrimental to the team" in the news release about the suspension.

The loss was the Nuggets' eighth in a row, putting them at 14-17 after a 14-9 start. Shaw has tried shaking things up to pull his team out of the slide, but while Miller has played less, the Nuggets are 11-5 when he hits 20 minutes. The 37-year-old is averaging 5.9 points and 3.3 assists a game this season.

Denver went 57-25 last season, earning the No. 3 seed in the Western Conference playoffs. But a first-round playoff exit led to general manager Masai Ujiri leaving for the Toronto Raptors, and George Karl, winner of the 2012-13 NBA Coach of the Year Award, was fired.

Miller's suspension begins Friday against the Memphis Grizzlies. He will not travel for Sunday's game at the Los Angeles Lakers.
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Re: Andre Miller Suspended 2 Games for Yelling at B-Shaw

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:08 pm

I just came to NBA Discussion to post the following copy/paste about the issue that I just read 4 minutes ago as well. I don't blame Miller. At least let the guy keep his lengthy streak of games alive. What…. does Shaw have a "Dan's doghouse" mentality too, or has Miller become a "C" word in the clubhouse too? No idea. But on surface seems like a sucky "Dan" type move, killing his streak.

Andre Miller got into it with coach Brian Shaw on the bench during first career DNP-CD in Nuggets’ loss to 76ers
By Dan Devine | Ball Don't Lie – 9 hours ago

Andre Miller wants to know why he's sitting. (David Richard-USA TODAY Sports)
You might think that giving up a 44-point second quarter to a 9-21 Eastern Conference team playing the fourth game of a six-game West Coast road trip would've been the lowest point of Wednesday evening for the Denver Nuggets. You'd be wrong, though. (Silly you.) The deepest valley appears to have come just past the midway point of the fourth quarter, with the Philadelphia 76ers well on their way to sending Brian Shaw's Nuggets to their eighth straight loss, a 114-102 debacle that featured a near dust-up on the Denver sideline:

About that "not playing at all" thing — this unexpected sit-down not only snapped a streak of 239 consecutive appearances for the veteran guard, but it also marked just the seventh time in Miller's 15-year NBA career that he hasn't seen game action. Here were the first six:

• Dec. 13, 2001, while a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers: Not with the team due to a contusion of the right shoulder.
• Dec. 1, 2002, while with the Los Angeles Clippers: Did not dress due to a sprained left ankle.
• Jan. 24, 2003, with the Clippers: Not with the team for personal reasons.
• Dec. 20 and 22, 2006: Didn't suit up for his first two games in Philadelphia after Denver moved him as part of the Allen Iverson trade.
• Dec. 7, 2010, while a member of the Portland Trail Blazers: Not with the team while serving a one-game suspension for body-checking Blake Griffin. ( YAY Andre Miller No Likee Blake Griffin!! :man10: )

And that's it. Wednesday, though, marked the first time in 1,163 career regular-season games that Miller didn't play as a result of his coach's decision ... and the veteran didn't appreciate it. Chris Dempsey of the Denver Post followed up after the game: Miller yelled about the disrespect he felt he was being shown by sitting. And if he was being disrespected, he'd do the same to the Nuggets' first-year head coach.

"There's a time and place for everything," Shaw said. "In the middle of the arena in front of everyone ... I just tried to calm it down." Asked if Miller understood the reasons for his one-game seat on the bench, Shaw said, "You'll have to ask him." But by that time, Miller had already left.

The DNP-CD continued a recent trend of Shaw de-emphasizing Miller as he searches for second-unit answers to jumpstart his flagging Nuggets. After playing just under 30 minutes in a Dec. 23 loss to the Golden State Warriors, the veteran point guard was limited to 15 minutes in a loss to the New Orleans Pelicans, 11 minutes in a loss to the Memphis Grizzlies and just under 10 minutes in a loss to the Miami Heat, culminating with Wednesday's scratch in the loss to Philly.

Miller's numbers (right around six points and three assists in 19 minutes per game on 46 percent shooting) don't exactly pop off the page in a way that seems to demand boatloads of playing time, and if you're looking to shake up a lineup that has underperformed to the tune of nine losses in 10 games and posting a bottom-10 efficiency differential (whether you score more points than you allow per 100 possessions, or vice versa) during a 5-10 month of December, somebody's going to see his minutes curtailed; there's got to be an odd man out, and in this case, it's 'Dre. (Swingman Jordan Hamilton, too — he's gone from 28 minutes on Dec. 28 to 14 total minutes over Denver's past two games.)

Still, there's an argument to be made that despite not being a solo offensive firestarter or a defensive presence (to put it mildly), Miller shouldn't be the one on the outside looking in. For one thing, while the Nuggets have been in a total overall tailspin over the past 10 games, they've been better — or, at least, less awful — with Miller on the court (outscored by 4.5 points-per-100 over 147 minutes) than off it (outscored by 13.2-per-100 over 333 minutes) during their recent 1-9 stretch, according to's lineup data. Plus, as a general rule, more 'Dre has been a positive thing for Denver, as's John Schuhmann notes:

Given both that and the fact that removing Miller entirely didn't exactly right the Nuggets' sinking ship — even Denver's typically effective reserve lineups seemed stagnant and stuttering against a 76ers defense that entered Jan. 1 as the league's second-worst unit (now just fourth-worst!) — it might make sense to see Miller get another crack at things. Then again, given how vocal and visible his frustration has become, the well-traveled vet could find himself on the move once again before the Feb. 20 trade deadline. I'm not sure "having to be restrained from going after your coach" is the most alluring line item on a prospective acquisition's resume, but Miller's track record of steady offensive production and even-handed orchestration could still make him an attractive commodity for a contending team ... even if it doesn't seem all that attractive to his present head coach.
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Re: Andre Miller Suspended 2 Games for Yelling at B-Shaw

Postby 432J on Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:35 pm

miller should have controlled himself but i can understand why he was upset

i'd love to see him return home to LA. he's always been one of my favorite players
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Re: Andre Miller Suspended 2 Games for Yelling at B-Shaw

Postby halekulani on Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:03 pm

he could have played him like 2 min and avoided this issue
not sure what b shaw is thinking
poor leadership
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