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Re: Another Injection For Drew (Pg. 2)

Postby KB24 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:45 pm

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revgen wrote:It's probably that injection he got before the all-star break last season. IIRC he gets that done twice a year as a regular maintenance procedure.

its probably his knees just aren't right.


The 76ers claim they're keeping Bynum out for 3 weeks as a "precautionary measure". If they keep him out longer, then I'll agree with you.


still not worried? its been almost 5 weeks now...
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby revgen on Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:09 pm

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:28 pm

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

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Re: Another Injection For Drew (Pg. 2)

Postby FabFourLakers on Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:56 pm

KB24 wrote:
revgen wrote:
KB24 wrote:
revgen wrote:It's probably that injection he got before the all-star break last season. IIRC he gets that done twice a year as a regular maintenance procedure.

its probably his knees just aren't right.


The 76ers claim they're keeping Bynum out for 3 weeks as a "precautionary measure". If they keep him out longer, then I'll agree with you.


still not worried? its been almost 5 weeks now...


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Re: Another Injection For Drew (Pg. 2)

Postby revgen on Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:09 pm

KB24 wrote:
revgen wrote:
KB24 wrote:
revgen wrote:It's probably that injection he got before the all-star break last season. IIRC he gets that done twice a year as a regular maintenance procedure.

its probably his knees just aren't right.


The 76ers claim they're keeping Bynum out for 3 weeks as a "precautionary measure". If they keep him out longer, then I'll agree with you.


still not worried? its been almost 5 weeks now...


I agree. It's definitely not "precautionary" anymore. The 76ers have since changed their tune to "well we aren't going to let him play until he's pain-free". Which is pretty confusing to me. How many players who have played professional basketball for 7 years can claim to be pain free? Much less a player who had two knee surgeries? The newspapers are claiming that he has "knee discomfort". What's that exactly? Can he play on it without making it worse? It's hard to tell what the hell they're talking about. Bynum himself has told reporters that he could play if the team really needed him. No real straight answers coming forth.

Judging from the quotes from Bynum and the rest of the 76ers players and staff it looks like they are trying to prevent a Derek Rose situation from happening. The whole league seems to be ultra-conservative this year with their high-value players. From Granger, Ginobli, the two Denver players who missed the 76ers Nuggets game, etc, etc. Makes me wonder if the owners got together and had a secret handshake meeting and said "if you don't play your guy when he's hurt, I won't play mine".
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby jimbo327 on Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:58 pm

Philly fans are only going to be patient for so long. Soon you'll start hearing boos and colorful commentary. Philly is not a town you can heal on company time. They are going to give Bynum enough time until the Sixers start losing because they don't want to break Drew's confidence just yet.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby revgen on Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:24 am

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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby therealdeal on Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:27 am

76er fans will be fine as long as the team is winning... if and when they start struggling they'll start asking questions.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby FabFourLakers on Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:00 pm

Well this idiot better get back soon because he's on my fantasy team. Luckily, I am still killing my opponent without Bynum. But I can only wait for so long right?

Thank GOD he's not our problem any more....
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby revgen on Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:54 pm

2 regular season games so far. I haven't watched either of them, but the stat sheet indicates 3 things.

1) Jrue Holiday is looking like he could be a borderline all-star this season. 14 points and 11 assists in the first game. 27 points and 7 dimes in the 2nd game.

2) Evan Turner is not looking like the all-star that Collins and 76ers were hoping for. This is his 1st year starting, so we'll see what happens.

3) They scored 84 points in both games. That's despite their PG handing out 9 assists per game and averaging 20ppg. That doesn't bode well for the future as long as Bynum is out. They held the Nuggets to 75 points, but they weren't so sucessful against the Knicks. Melo and JR Smith killed them.

They're missing Bynum's offense right now for sure. Unless Turner starts showing up, it looks like it's the Jrue Holiday show.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby hoopschick03 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:36 pm

I agree. It's definitely not "precautionary" anymore.



Pssst....It was NEVER precautionary!!! :man10: :man10: When has anything having to do with Andrew's knees ever been precautionary?? I get that you love the guy...but come on. I expect Philly to use the 'precautionary' word for their fans. They don't know any better and still have hope. But we know better here in Lakerland...or at least we should.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby hoopschick03 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:42 pm

And one more thing....this soreness crap?? Again, that's just stuff the team is saying for their fans. WE KNOW BETTER. Andrew Bynum is not sitting because his knees are sore. He wore double braces all last season. Think his knees weren't sore then? You're gonna have sore knees wearing double braces. Andrew Bynum is sitting because HE...CAN'T...PLAY. He's injured. Period.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby revgen on Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:17 pm

^So is Drew lying when he says that he could play right now if the team really needed him? Is this a conspiracy theory among Bynum, his agent, and the 76ers brass meant to fool the fans?

If so, then it's an Interesting theory.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby hoopschick03 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:22 pm

He can't play, Rev. Call it what you want - conspiracy, lies, denial...whatever. But those already tender knees are failing him, they have not responded to the 'precautionary' (I can't even say that with a straight face) injections, and it has prevented him from joining his team and bonding with his new teammates on the court. Now I suppose if it were a dire situation like say the playoffs, he'd suck it up and drag those 'sore' knees out there. But he's getting bi-annual silicon injections, plasma therapy which is also injected, AND he's wearing braces on both knees. Now he needs these injections in order to play and keep the knees from discenigrating to dust. But he got the plasma in Sept, and the silicon in October. It's November...and he's still 'sore.' That's a rather extensive recovery curve. :man3:
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby revgen on Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:34 pm

hoopschick03 wrote:He can't play, Rev. Call it what you want - conspiracy, lies, denial...whatever. But those already tender knees are failing him, they have not responded to the 'precautionary' (I can't even say that with a straight face) injections, and it has prevented him from joining his team and bonding with his new teammates on the court. Now I suppose if it were a dire situation like say the playoffs, he'd suck it up and drag those 'sore' knees out there. But he's getting bi-annual silicon injections, plasma therapy which is also injected, AND he's wearing braces on both knees. Now he needs these injections in order to play and keep the knees from discenigrating to dust. But he got the plasma in Sept, and the silicon in October. It's November...and he's still 'sore.' That's a rather extensive recovery curve. :man3:


1) The injections aren't "precautionary". He's been having them on a regular basis since 2010. They are a maintenance procedure.

2) The plasma therapy was scheduled in May. Way before Bynum even had the bone bruise. Bynum talks about it in his exit interview.

3) What's keeping him from joining the team is a bone bruise that he developed while doing something on the practice court. It has nothing to do with the injections.

4) He's not wearing braces on both knees. Only the right knee. Which he's been doing since 2009.

It sounds to me like you're not properly informed on what's going on.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby hoopschick03 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:20 pm

You can sweat me on the details and the point is taken. But the overall question remains... The injections are supposed to help him play, right? They're supposed to give him more fluidity, less swelling, less discomfort, right? So what's with the continued 'soreness' from the initial plasma shot in Sept, missed camp and preseason completely in Oct and we're now into Nov and the reg season with no debut date in sight? If he can play, why wouldn't he? Simple answer, he can't.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby revgen on Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:47 pm

hoopschick03 wrote:You can sweat me on the details and the point is taken. But the overall question remains... The injections are supposed to help him play, right? They're supposed to give him more fluidity, less swelling, less discomfort, right? So what's with the continued 'soreness' from the initial plasma shot in Sept, missed camp and preseason completely in Oct and we're now into Nov and the reg season with no debut date in sight? If he can play, why wouldn't he? Simple answer, he can't.


1) The synvisc injection is to prevent arthritis. Ditto with plasma injections. He lost some cartilage in 2010. The injections keep it from wearing down further, so he won't be "bone on bone" someday.

2) The bone bruise is something else entirely. Unlike arthritus, which is gradual, the bone bruise happened while he was doing a drill on a practice court. These injections don't deal with bone bruises.

3) If he can play and it won't get worse and won't prevent the injury from healing on it's own, then he should play. The problem is that Bynum and the 76ers front office are giving different answers that don't clarify what is going on.

The questions I want answered are

1) Can he actually play if the team needed him to play?
2) Would playing on the leg make the problem worse?
3) If the answer to question #2 is no, then would playing on the knee not allow it to heal all the way if he plays too long on it?

None of the Philly reporters are asking these questions, so it's hard to get a read on what's going on. This whole situation makes me notice the difference between the Lakers organization and other organizations. The Lakers don't BS about what the injuries are to the players. They give straight answers.
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby Johnnyboy on Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:04 am

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Johnnyboy wrote:people are still trying to say bynum is dependable? Give it up Bynum lovers. the guy is always hurt. He's yet to play 82 games in a season

Bynum played every game last year except for one. He hasn't really had a serious injury since 2010. That's nearly three years ago. This is not something that's gonna keep him out for that long so I don't see what the big deal is. Philly is just trying to make sure he's healthy before they bring him out. Don't wanna risk bringing him back too early and him suffering a more serious injury and missing even more time.

JoelMyersScrotalSack wrote:I still can't believe we got Dwight Howard for Andre Bynum :man10: :man10:

Why is it so hard to believe? Bynum is still easily the second best center in the game. It's not like we gave up some scrub. We gave up a guy who is a terrific player, an All Star, and a potential superstar. To act like we just gave up nothing for Howard is ridiculous.


Re read what I wrote. He hasn't played a full 82 games season. Not sure if you remember, but there was this thing called a lock out last year. It wasn't a full season. The guy has glass knees. Get over it
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby The Rock on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:17 am

http://www.phillyburbs.com/sports/sixers/barzilai-is-the-team-s-analytics-expert/article_2c4091a0-3a53-5fe8-9a07-0324ea4930aa.html
Bynum update

DiLeo said Monday that there’s nothing to report with injured center Andrew Bynum (knee bone bruise).

Bynum has begun low-impact conditioning, but won’t start any basketball-related activities until he’s pain-free.

“He’s improving, but it’s still the same situation,” DiLeo said.

There is still no timetable for Bynum’s return, according to DiLeo
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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby jimbo327 on Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:17 am

2 blow out losses to the NYK. I think the Philly crowd is already shifting in their seats. It won't be long before they get their usual pitchforks.
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Re: Drew Improving, But Situation Remains Unchanged (Pg. 4)

Postby Kobe8Fan on Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:28 am

Drew Improving, But Situation Remains Unchanged

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Philadelphia 76ers' general manager Tony DiLeo said Monday that there’s nothing to report with Andrew Bynum, who is still out with a knee bone bruise.

Bynum has begun low-impact conditioning, but won’t start any basketball-related activities until he’s pain-free.

“He’s improving, but it’s still the same situation,” DiLeo said.

Bynum still has no timetable to return, according to DiLeo.


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Re: 76ers To Sit Drew Until He Has No Pain In Knee (Pg. 3)

Postby revgen on Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:05 am

jimbo327 wrote:2 blow out losses to the NYK. I think the Philly crowd is already shifting in their seats. It won't be long before they get their usual pitchforks.


Something tells me Laker fans will have their pitchforks out before Philly fans do.

And if the Philly fans do take out their pitchforks, it will be against Vick and the Eagles.
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