Bynum Discussion

Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby KB&AB on Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 pm



Will we see Bynum becomes more explosive again after getting the kobe knee treatment in Germany? what do you think?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:13 pm

Where is page 307? :man9:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby Juronimo on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:26 pm

wtf I noticed the same thing. Was this thread pruned?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby GoldHammish on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:29 pm

Juronimo wrote:wtf I noticed the same thing. Was this thread pruned?

I think this needs to be an announcement:
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^from the D12 thread.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby Juronimo on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:33 pm

Oh, I never saw that. Thanks
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby revgen on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:45 pm

KB&AB wrote:

Will we see Bynum becomes more explosive again after getting the kobe knee treatment in Germany? what do you think?


I think he'll get better. 2 healthy offseasons in a row can't hurt. Combine that with Orthokine and you have reason to be optimistic. But don't expect 2007-2008 Bynum to return from the dead.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby VincentTH on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:54 pm

Hopefully, David Lee -- the agent of Bynum and Ariza -- learned something from Ariza's lesson: You don't mess with Mitch!!!!!
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby khmrP on Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:00 pm

^^^well unlike Ariza, Bynum will get what he's asking for whether its from us or someone else.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby KB&AB on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:12 pm

revgen wrote:
KB&AB wrote:

Will we see Bynum becomes more explosive again after getting the kobe knee treatment in Germany? what do you think?


I think he'll get better. 2 healthy offseasons in a row can't hurt. Combine that with Orthokine and you have reason to be optimistic. But don't expect 2007-2008 Bynum to return from the dead.


Thanks! I really hope we will see 2007-2008 Bynum back. It works well for Kobe. But if not, i am still happy with this currently Bynum. He is the most offensive talent at the center position. He has a variety of moves unlike DH12. And He is going to get better. I am really looking forward to watching Nash with Gasol, Bynum and Kobe. Its going to be fun to watch.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion (contract option picked up page 307)

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:18 pm

I don't see Bynum ever being as athletic as he was in 2007, but he doesn't have to be. He's so much better offensively. Back then all he could really do was dunk. Now he has a legit lowpost game.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby davriver290 on Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:16 pm

So now with the Dwight trade looking unlikely, Bynum will be our center. What should he focus on to improve his lateral quickness to better defend the pick and roll?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby XXIV on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:23 pm

davriver290 wrote:So now with the Dwight trade looking unlikely, Bynum will be our center. What should he focus on to improve his lateral quickness to better defend the pick and roll?


I want him to learn on passing out of double teams.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:35 pm

davriver290 wrote:So now with the Dwight trade looking unlikely, Bynum will be our center. What should he focus on to improve his lateral quickness to better defend the pick and roll?

Drew can get better at everything. He can get alot better as a player. That's a scary prospect for the rest of the NBA. You're talking about a guy who averaged 19/12 last season amd he can and will get alot better.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Finwë on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:39 pm

Bynum should work on bball stuff of course (maybe shooting a turnaround avoiding the double team), but his biggest problem is his head. Until he starts showing up every game and playing with real effort every game he's not gonna be winning chips. He needs someone to help him understand that, or help him achieve that. He needs mentorship IMO.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:41 pm

Finwë wrote:Bynum should work on bball stuff of course (maybe shooting a turnaround avoiding the double team), but his biggest problem is his head. Until he starts showing up every game and playing with real effort every game he's not gonna be winning chips. He needs someone to help him understand that, or help him achieve that. He needs mentorship IMO.

He's already got two. That's more than most guys have in an entire career.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Scnottaken on Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:11 am

KeepBynum wrote:
Finwë wrote:Bynum should work on bball stuff of course (maybe shooting a turnaround avoiding the double team), but his biggest problem is his head. Until he starts showing up every game and playing with real effort every game he's not gonna be winning chips. He needs someone to help him understand that, or help him achieve that. He needs mentorship IMO.

He's already got two. That's more than most guys have in an entire career.

I think he means as a number 1 or 1a/b option.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Finwë on Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:59 am

Scnottaken wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:
Finwë wrote:Bynum should work on bball stuff of course (maybe shooting a turnaround avoiding the double team), but his biggest problem is his head. Until he starts showing up every game and playing with real effort every game he's not gonna be winning chips. He needs someone to help him understand that, or help him achieve that. He needs mentorship IMO.

He's already got two. That's more than most guys have in an entire career.

I think he means as a number 1 or 1a/b option.

Umm, future tense anyone? "gonna be winning" pretty much = "is going to win" and "will win"

Also:
1) Bynum hardly played when it mattered in both title runs you referred to. It was mostly LO and Pau.

2) Bynum's lackluster showings and overall immaturity have been much more present this past season. I think it was a combination of 2 things: a) No more Phil. Brown can't even touch Phil as a motivator/mentor/advisor. b) Becoming the 2nd option, putting up big stats, being an all-star. I think all of that got into his head a bit and he started showing signs of overconfidence and arrogance (not necessarily bad -see Kobe-, but you have to "walk the walk", and we know he didn't).
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:19 am

Bynum averaged 17.4 mpg and 24.4 mpg in the 2009 & 2010 playoffs respectively. Wouldn't call that hardly playing.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Lakeshow24 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:39 am

Looks like he's a keeper. I'm ready to turn the Dwightmare page and start being thankful for what we've got. Now if we can just find a way or a coach who can motivate him without the arrogance and cockiness so he can develop his true potential. If he can find it, he's way better than Dwight IMO. The key is IF IF IF somebody can get his maximum ability out of him...
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby SublimeAnarky on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:09 am

Does anyone here see him develop into a good P&R big ? He has the hands for it.. if we can get him to learn that - i say we let the baby in orlando be..
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby jlkr on Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:13 am

He does have a decent stroke for a 15 foot shot. He might be good as a pick and pop big as well as a pick and roll big.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby DaylightinthePivot on Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:10 am

KeepBynum wrote:Bynum averaged 17.4 mpg and 24.4 mpg in the 2009 & 2010 playoffs respectively. Wouldn't call that hardly playing.


As a comparasion, Jordan Hill averaged 18 mpg in the playoffs last year. Roll player minutes.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:19 am

DaylightinthePivot wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:Bynum averaged 17.4 mpg and 24.4 mpg in the 2009 & 2010 playoffs respectively. Wouldn't call that hardly playing.


As a comparasion, Jordan Hill averaged 18 mpg in the playoffs last year. Roll player minutes.


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Re: Championships

Postby JUST-MING on Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:49 am

lakerfan2 wrote:There's a reason we won back to back.

Kobe Bryant.

Spoiler:
Jordan

1996: 30.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.1 apg, .459 FG%, .403 3FG%, .818 FT%
1997: 31.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 4.8 apg, .456 FG%, .194 3FG%, .831 FT%
1998: 32.4 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.5 apg, .462 FG%, .302 3FG%, .812 FT%

Bryant

2008: 30.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, .479 FG%, .302 3FG%, .809 FT%
2009: 30.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.5 apg, .457 FG%, .349 3FG%, .883 FT%
2010: 29.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg, .458 FG%, .374 3FG%, .842 FT%
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:46 pm

phil's use of drew was a lot different than brown's.

phil was prob genius enough to see drew's emergence coming and kept him on a leash as pau was more valuable to kobe's play. unlike brown...
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