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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby kenzo on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:00 am

Doc Brown wrote:^^ As opposed to the "fake" doctor who gave his opinion?

I didn't read the article but i saw one, where a doctor speculated on what is happening (without examining Drew or seeing a MRI). I just assumed it's the same article :man12:
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby nthydro on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:05 am

For all of you upset about the Bynum/Howard trade, you should be damn glad we got rid of him. I remember certain people here talkin bout Drew's knees like it was a past issue and that Howard's back was the more serious problem. Not much you guys can say now is there? I mean, c'mon, the man injured it bowling? :man3:
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Congo Cash on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:10 am

432J wrote:im so glad the lakers were able to get rid of him

year after year worrying about his knees. enough was enough, i'm glad he's not our problem anymore. i do feel bad in a way but at the same time i dont because it's so clear that he could care less about his knees. we all know drew is not the one to bust his a** off rehabbing to get back out there. he's just saying "oh well, i won 2 rings so at least im getting paid to do nothing."

Ya, I cringe every time he falls down (whether he was hurt or not is irrelevant), the constant fear of him missing 15-20+ games a year is finally gone..
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby The Rock on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:29 am

From CBSPhilly.com

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/20/former-teammate-says-no-one-likes-basketball-less-than-andrew-bynum/

“I started investigating [the bowling] a little bit,” Twersky said. “And one of the people that I hit, a guy who has played with him before, he texted me back and said ‘I don’t know if that’s true [the bowling], but I do know that I’ve never met another player in the league who likes basketball less [than Bynum].”

“The disclaimer is, I don’t know Andrew like that. From what I hear, he’s a good guy,” Twersky said. “But the fact that I heard this from a guy who has played with him before, it kind of made me think, ‘what’s going on here exactly?’ That’s not the kind of a guy that I necessarily want to be maxing out.”
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby therealdeal on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:31 am

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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Phil XI on Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:40 am

Phil XI wrote:bowling?

What no frat parties with coeds to carry on your shoulders during rehab?

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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby quartzcharm on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:19 am

Glad we don't have to go through this rollercoaster with Bynum anymore.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Scnottaken on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:52 am

Doc Brown wrote:Drew might be out the season according to Hollinger and this article.....

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The site the link sends you to let me look at the article for maybe a second. Luckily, you can still view the article after switching the 1 to a 0 at the end.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby dmaul on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:52 am

Always felt this guy was a bum. There was a stretch in the 2010-11 season after the all-star break when the team went like 17-1 or something and it was because Bynum decided to focus on rebounding and defense. That was maybe the only time I've liked him in his tenure with the Lakers. The rest of the time he's been a big baby who plays to his ability only when he feels like it.

It's laughable that some people thought his injuries where the result of freak occurrences or that the trajectory of his career would be that he would be healthy later on. At some point, optimism becomes delusion. Not sure how much more body of evidence you would need to be convinced that what you've seen is what you're going to get with this guy. And to think, he would have been part of the cornerstone of this franchise after Kobe - my god, these threads make me grateful we bought low and sold high with Bynum. God bless the front office.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby nameant on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:17 pm

Perhaps it's seeing Bynum from an outsider's perspective now....but I couldn't imagine wanting to build a franchise around this guy. All the shoulder shrugs and smiles...this kid doesn't care.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby gcclaker on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:43 pm

I find it odd that Bynum is depicted as a player that does not care. Yes to him, basketball is a profession but it did not mean he didn't give a damn. Bynum took to Abdul-Jabbar's tutelage for four years. He could have been something else had he not been injured in that Memphis game. Bynum respected Jackson, by all accounts loved his teammates [see Fisher and Gasol as examples] and did not really cause headaches for management sans last season.

I still remember him as that player standing, yelling, watching the clock intently and trying to fire up the crowd in the 2010 Finals. Any other player would have been miffed as others were there instead of him during crunch time. Bynum was so frustrated with losing that he clocked Barea which I don't condone. He could have been another Joe Barry Carroll or Olowakandi for that matter.

I'd hate to see him shelved for this season as I wanted to see him thrive under Collins and with the Sixers.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby 432J on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:28 pm

gcclaker wrote:I find it odd that Bynum is depicted as a player that does not care. Yes to him, basketball is a profession but it did not mean he didn't give a damn. Bynum took to Abdul-Jabbar's tutelage for four years. He could have been something else had he not been injured in that Memphis game. Bynum respected Jackson, by all accounts loved his teammates [see Fisher and Gasol as examples] and did not really cause headaches for management sans last season.

I still remember him as that player standing, yelling, watching the clock intently and trying to fire up the crowd in the 2010 Finals. Any other player would have been miffed as others were there instead of him during crunch time. Bynum was so frustrated with losing that he clocked Barea which I don't condone. He could have been another Joe Barry Carroll or Olowakandi for that matter.

I'd hate to see him shelved for this season as I wanted to see him thrive under Collins and with the Sixers.

well said sir

i would really hate for drew's career to end this way. yes i'm glad the lakers got him off their hands at the right time but no one can deny his contributions to this team over the past 6-7 years. i really hope he makes a recovery and gets back out there. the only thing in question is his attitude towards making a full recovery. there is no doubt he's the 2nd best center in the league when he's healthy and has his head in the game
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby nthydro on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:29 pm

gcclaker wrote:I find it odd that Bynum is depicted as a player that does not care. Yes to him, basketball is a profession but it did not mean he didn't give a damn. Bynum took to Abdul-Jabbar's tutelage for four years. He could have been something else had he not been injured in that Memphis game. Bynum respected Jackson, by all accounts loved his teammates [see Fisher and Gasol as examples] and did not really cause headaches for management sans last season.

I still remember him as that player standing, yelling, watching the clock intently and trying to fire up the crowd in the 2010 Finals. Any other player would have been miffed as others were there instead of him during crunch time. Bynum was so frustrated with losing that he clocked Barea which I don't condone. He could have been another Joe Barry Carroll or Olowakandi for that matter.

I'd hate to see him shelved for this season as I wanted to see him thrive under Collins and with the Sixers.


I think he used to be motivated and dedicated, before he established himself as a premier player in the league. But now that he has money and recognition, he just doesn't care as much. Maybe that's why he 'fired' Kareem.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby gcclaker on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:39 pm

nthydro wrote:
gcclaker wrote:I find it odd that Bynum is depicted as a player that does not care. Yes to him, basketball is a profession but it did not mean he didn't give a damn. Bynum took to Abdul-Jabbar's tutelage for four years. He could have been something else had he not been injured in that Memphis game. Bynum respected Jackson, by all accounts loved his teammates [see Fisher and Gasol as examples] and did not really cause headaches for management sans last season.

I still remember him as that player standing, yelling, watching the clock intently and trying to fire up the crowd in the 2010 Finals. Any other player would have been miffed as others were there instead of him during crunch time. Bynum was so frustrated with losing that he clocked Barea which I don't condone. He could have been another Joe Barry Carroll or Olowakandi for that matter.

I'd hate to see him shelved for this season as I wanted to see him thrive under Collins and with the Sixers.


I think he used to be motivated and dedicated, before he established himself as a premier player in the league. But now that he has money and recognition, he just doesn't care as much. Maybe that's why he 'fired' Kareem.

Bynum cut ties with Abdul-Jabbar prior to the 2009 season if I'm correct. He did not really "establish" himself until 2012 where he was the starting center for the West where Brown made him a bigger focal point of the offense. Prior to it, it was more a question of Bynum staying upright the full season.

I think afterwards, it came down to Bynum wanting to lead his own team or at least an even bigger role. I would agree with you that with him having the hardware then it was all about the money and expanding his rep. I can't commend Bynum enough though for playing on one leg against Orlando and that other team we beat for consecutive chips.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby gill on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:42 pm

Andrew Bynum's agent continues to keep the specifics of his client's knee issue a secret.

All of the publicly available information on Bynum suggests a probable diagnosis of osteochondral lesions says one of the nation's top orthopedic surgeons, a condition that may keep Bynum out for the season.

The condition could heal on its own within four to six months, but that would keep Bynum out until March or April.

The surgeon said that surgery could keep him from playing for up to a year.

Bynum should know whether he needs surgery by December.
The surgeon spoke on condition of anonymity because Bynum is not his patient.



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/224596/Bynum_Could_Be_Out_Until_March_With_Rest_One_Year_With_Surgery

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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby gcclaker on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:45 pm

^Damn... For all his missteps as a pro, I find it disappointing for hear all of this. It will be interesting to find out what really caused it or what complications arose. That is if it would ever be disclosed. I wanted to see Bynum lay waste to the frontcourts out East.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby jjin28 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:53 pm

im beggining to think that kobe knew that Drew was gonna be seriously hurt this year and unable to perform so he had him traded with the upmost urgency. Its a conspiracy man. Kobe tells Bynum to go try the German Procedure he got. Kobe later then calls the Doctor and asks him for the down low. Doctor gives kobe all the info and lets him know that even this high tech procedure aint good enough for Bynum, his knees are totally shot for the now and the long term. Kobe then called mitch, and got it done. I thank kobe for getting him traded. :man1:
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:34 pm

thanks for helping win two rings but good riddance
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby dmaul on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:44 pm

lakerswiz wrote:^ His two major injuries were freak accidents. He might not love basketball and he might be not as dedicated, but to say that those injuries weren't freak accident is laughable in itself.

OK, so a couple of his injuries may have been of the freak nature. Then he has a propensity for getting injured in freak accidents. He has a propensity for getting injured in non-freak accidents. He has a propensity for getting injured...period. I'll guess that that won't change until the end of his career. It's not just bad luck. He's brittle.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:06 pm

LakerFanIam wrote:Think of how many Millions this stupid stunt may cost Drew...

Contract year, still major issues with the knees, showing no sign of maturity or responsibility...

For a guy that expects to get Max Money, he's sure not helping his cause.


Yeah... I'm "L"ing MAO listening to himself dig himself and Gumby a deep hole for come contract negotiation time in this contract year. Something to the effect of, "Well if bowling is going to hurt my knee, what is dunking a basketball (playing the game) going to do?"

But give me my max money....nothing to see here...keep moving and just write that check.

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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:01 pm

gill wrote:
Andrew Bynum's agent continues to keep the specifics of his client's knee issue a secret.

All of the publicly available information on Bynum suggests a probable diagnosis of osteochondral lesions says one of the nation's top orthopedic surgeons, a condition that may keep Bynum out for the season.

The condition could heal on its own within four to six months, but that would keep Bynum out until March or April.

The surgeon said that surgery could keep him from playing for up to a year.

Bynum should know whether he needs surgery by December.
The surgeon spoke on condition of anonymity because Bynum is not his patient.



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/224596/Bynum_Could_Be_Out_Until_March_With_Rest_One_Year_With_Surgery

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One of the top orthopedic surgeons in America, who is not involved in Bynum’s treatment and has not seen his MRIs


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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby LAKEROC on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:29 pm

I'd love to have Bynum back next year for MLE, even with all of his injuries, backing up Dwight at the 5. Lakers would essentially have gotten Dwight Howard for Josh McRoberts and Christian Eyenga :man10:
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Kou on Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:41 pm

Thank god he's not our problem anymore.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby ZenMaster4President on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:58 pm

Even if Dwight leaves after this season, we still won the trade. So much anxiety spared for our fans... can you put a price on that?

And that is even without considering that this is not his last injury, probably.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby jimbo327 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:41 pm

The good news is that Bynum can park legally in the handicapped spot now since he is such a fan of them through the years. Karma. I know a lot of celebs and athletes park in the handicap spots, but it's just not right.

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