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Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:01 am

revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.


D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still :man10:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:05 am

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revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.


D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still :man10:


Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum. :man10:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:08 am

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revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.


D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still :man10:


Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum. :man10:


While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be. Seriously I dont understand how you still crying bout Bynum, I mean if he was actually PLAYING and making some sort of impact I can understand your argument here but dam dude, how exactly can you still back Bynum up when he's out AGAIN for the very same reasoning most of us fans wanted him gone for?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:13 am

khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:
khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.


D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still :man10:


Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum. :man10:


While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be. Seriously I dont understand how you still crying bout Bynum, I mean if he was actually PLAYING and making some sort of impact I can understand your argument here but dam dude, how exactly can you still back Bynum up when he's out AGAIN for the very same reasoning most of us fans wanted him gone for?


What level? He's scoring less than Bynum did last season, rebounding slightly higher, turning the ball over at a much higher rate, and shooting FT's like crap. 1000x the player Bynum ever was? Now you're just being cute.

I'm not the one crying about Bynum. Laker911 was. Whining about "How were we ever wrong?". He asked. I answered. He could have let Psychobroker's comment alone and said nothing.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:15 am

revgen wrote:
khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:
khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.


D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still :man10:


Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum. :man10:


While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be.


What level? He's scoring less than Bynum did last season, rebounding slightly higher, turning the ball over at a much higher rate, and shooting FT's like crap. 1000x the player Bynum ever was? Now you're just being cute.


was is all you got is whats more cute :man10: .......like I said one's PLAYING the other is "thats what I'm hoping for" :man10: and Bynum put up those #'s only once and now you're using that as a baramoter for his whole career? :man10:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:20 am

khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:
khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:
khmrP wrote:
D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still :man10:


Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum. :man10:


While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be.


What level? He's scoring less than Bynum did last season, rebounding slightly higher, turning the ball over at a much higher rate, and shooting FT's like crap. 1000x the player Bynum ever was? Now you're just being cute.


was is all you got is whats more cute :man10: .......like I said one's PLAYING the other is "thats what I'm hoping for" :man10: and Bynum put up those #'s only once and now you're using that as a baramoter for his whole career? :man10:


I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:23 am

revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?


when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:32 am

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revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?


when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.


My boy?

And D12 isn't your boy? :man10:

Yes. I compared Bynum's last season with this team to D12's this season. Why? Because I'm not a Magic fan. I don't give a damn what D12 did for them. What is he doing for us? So far, overall, not much different than what Bynum was doing last season. So the idea that D12 is 1000x better than Bynum is simply hilarious considering what he's doing on the floor this season and what our W-L record is.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:43 am

revgen wrote:
khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?


when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.


My boy?

And D12 isn't your boy? :man10:

Yes. I compared Bynum's last season with this team to D12's this season. Why? Because I'm not a Magic fan. I don't give a damn what D12 did for them. What is he doing for us? So far, overall, not much different than what Bynum was doing last season. So the idea that D12 is 1000x better than Bynum is simply hilarious considering what he's doing on the floor this season and what our W-L record is.


as oppose to what Drew's doing on the floor this season right? and No D12 is not my boy but yes I did hate Bynum and all the reasons I hated him are pretty much proven true, immature, slow, and most important knees of a 80yr old.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:56 am

Uh... yeah... Anyway, Bynum is looking better, hopefully he can come back in the timetable he set, looking forward to seeing him back out there
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:59 am

khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:
khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?


when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.


My boy?

And D12 isn't your boy? :man10:

Yes. I compared Bynum's last season with this team to D12's this season. Why? Because I'm not a Magic fan. I don't give a damn what D12 did for them. What is he doing for us? So far, overall, not much different than what Bynum was doing last season. So the idea that D12 is 1000x better than Bynum is simply hilarious considering what he's doing on the floor this season and what our W-L record is.


as oppose to what Drew's doing on the floor this season right? and No D12 is not my boy but yes I did hate Bynum and all the reasons I hated him are pretty much proven true, immature, slow, and most important knees of a 80yr old.


Once again, what Bynum and D12 do for other teams besides ours doesn't concern me.

D12 isn't your boy, but you claim he's 1000x better than Bynum ever was? He'd have to be Kareem-level at least to come even close to being 1000x better.

Immature compared to who? Howard? Slow compared to who? Yao Ming? His "80 year old knees" have done way more for this team so far than D12's knees have. Until that changes, the "1000x better" proclamation is simply a joke.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:13 pm

Weezy wrote:Uh... yeah... Anyway, Bynum is looking better, hopefully he can come back in the timetable he set, looking forward to seeing him back out there


Interesting...... a sentiment not held by many here......
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby khmrP on Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:24 pm

revgen wrote:Once again, what Bynum and D12 do for other teams besides ours doesn't concern me.

D12 isn't your boy, but you claim he's 1000x better than Bynum ever was? He'd have to be Kareem-level at least to come even close to being 1000x better.

Immature compared to who? Howard? Slow compared to who? Yao Ming? His "80 year old knees" have done way more for this team so far than D12's knees have. Until that changes, the "1000x better" proclamation is simply a joke.


dwight immature off the court, Bynum immature on and off the court, so yea there's big difference there. How exactly would knock knee Bynum being more for this team again when he's still sideline? :man3: Slow compared to Noah, Chandler, more so even compared to the current bum of a center according to you thats currently on our team :man10: who btw is recovering and still PLAYING from back surgery something you have FAILED thus far to acknowledge in any of your rebuttal in regards to Bynum. So like I said you are a true fan through and through to still be able to argue in Bynum favor when the dude career is probably over in the next 2-3yrs tops if he's lucky.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:18 pm

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Weezy wrote:Uh... yeah... Anyway, Bynum is looking better, hopefully he can come back in the timetable he set, looking forward to seeing him back out there


Interesting...... a sentiment not held by many here......


I don't see why not, Bynum didn't leave here with bad intent, he didn't speak ill of the Lakers, he was traded and went with it no problem. I like Drew, he did a lot for us when he was here. I wish him good health going forward and hopefully a long career. A good friend of mine is a Sixers fan, and his team could use a healthy Bynum right about now, I hope he helps them out.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Finwë on Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:18 pm

This thread title is just priceless

Anyways, I was excited to see how Drew would do in Philly being the #1 option of their halfcourt game, so it's been pretty disappointing to see him injured all this time. Hopefully he comes back while the season isn't close to over and Philly makes it back to the top 8
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:43 pm

Weezy wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
Weezy wrote:Uh... yeah... Anyway, Bynum is looking better, hopefully he can come back in the timetable he set, looking forward to seeing him back out there


Interesting...... a sentiment not held by many here......


I don't see why not, Bynum didn't leave here with bad intent, he didn't speak ill of the Lakers, he was traded and went with it no problem. I like Drew, he did a lot for us when he was here. I wish him good health going forward and hopefully a long career. A good friend of mine is a Sixers fan, and his team could use a healthy Bynum right about now, I hope he helps them out.


I think you misunderstand.... I was pointing out the continued and even sometimes emphatic support for Bynum to be on any other team..... it had nothing to do with Bynum or his performance in LA.

I wish him well against 28 teams for the rest of his career. He had a few minor issues here that got blown way out of proportion but for the majority of his time here he was a good the very good player for us.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:56 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
Weezy wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
Weezy wrote:Uh... yeah... Anyway, Bynum is looking better, hopefully he can come back in the timetable he set, looking forward to seeing him back out there


Interesting...... a sentiment not held by many here......


I don't see why not, Bynum didn't leave here with bad intent, he didn't speak ill of the Lakers, he was traded and went with it no problem. I like Drew, he did a lot for us when he was here. I wish him good health going forward and hopefully a long career. A good friend of mine is a Sixers fan, and his team could use a healthy Bynum right about now, I hope he helps them out.


I think you misunderstand.... I was pointing out the continued and even sometimes emphatic support for Bynum to be on any other team..... it had nothing to do with Bynum or his performance in LA.

I wish him well against 28 teams for the rest of his career. He had a few minor issues here that got blown way out of proportion but for the majority of his time here he was a good the very good player for us.


No I understand I was just saying in general I don't see why my sentiment is not shared by many. Bynum was a good player for us like you said, and if it could be guaranteed that both would be healthy, or in other words taking health out of the discussion, I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have Bynum as a center over Howard. Bynum might not be the defender Howard is, or always give his all when it comes to rebounding, but he has his monster games, and offensively he's much more skilled than Dwight. Main reason I was happy to get Dwight was health really, if Bynum had no knee issues I'd have been fine with keeping him.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:26 pm

khmrP wrote:
revgen wrote:Once again, what Bynum and D12 do for other teams besides ours doesn't concern me.

D12 isn't your boy, but you claim he's 1000x better than Bynum ever was? He'd have to be Kareem-level at least to come even close to being 1000x better.

Immature compared to who? Howard? Slow compared to who? Yao Ming? His "80 year old knees" have done way more for this team so far than D12's knees have. Until that changes, the "1000x better" proclamation is simply a joke.


dwight immature off the court, Bynum immature on and off the court, so yea there's big difference there. How exactly would knock knee Bynum being more for this team again when he's still sideline? :man3: Slow compared to Noah, Chandler, more so even compared to the current bum of a center according to you thats currently on our team :man10: who btw is recovering and still PLAYING from back surgery something you have FAILED thus far to acknowledge in any of your rebuttal in regards to Bynum. So like I said you are a true fan through and through to still be able to argue in Bynum favor when the dude career is probably over in the next 2-3yrs tops if he's lucky.


1) I don't recall Bynum knocking up a Laker cheerleader off the court and having baby mama issues. :man10: I also don't recall Bynum smiling, laughing, and joking while we're down 19 points in a game. Especially when none of his teammates are doing so. Both of them have maturity issues. To claim otherwise is simply ridiculous.

2) He's done more for this franchise than D12 has done so far. Plain and simple. Maybe D12 surpasses what Drew has done. That hasn't been the case so far. Claiming that D12 is 1000x the player Bynum ever was is simply ridiculous until D12 actually brings more to the table than a possible lottery season.

3) Yao Ming was slower than Bynum and the rest of the centers you noted. His Rockets were among the best defensive teams in the league. If Bynum's "slow" feet were responsible for our defensive breakdowns, we wouldn't keep having them with our 3x DPOY onboard.

4) So what if he's coming off back surgery? He's still playing. If you can hold it against Bynum for playing hurt and being "gimp", then the same courtesy should be applied to D12.

5) I'm not talking about the next 2-3 years. I'm talking about what he has done as a Laker player. I've repeated this about 2-3 times already, but apparently doesn't get through your thick skull.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:24 pm

revgen wrote:I also don't recall Bynum smiling, laughing, and joking while we're down 19 points in a game. Especially when none of his teammates are doing so.


I can't speak to the other stuff, but I definitely remember Bynum doing this, did it on the bench, people here got pissed, I still don't see it as a big deal.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:27 pm

Weezy wrote:
revgen wrote:I also don't recall Bynum smiling, laughing, and joking while we're down 19 points in a game. Especially when none of his teammates are doing so.


I can't speak to the other stuff, but I definitely remember Bynum doing this, did it on the bench, people here got pissed, I still don't see it as a big deal.


I don't recall him ever doing it while we were losing a game.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:28 pm

Well I could be wrong, but I remember it pretty clearly and people got mad. We lost bad and he was laughing on the bench joking around with a few end of bench guys, look it up I'm pretty sure it happened.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:36 pm

^I don't know how to "look it up". Search function on this site isn't very accommodating. I type in "Bynum laughing bench". All I find are posts from "KeepBynum" talking about Dwight laughing on the bench.

I do remember him not joining huddles and people getting pissed. The laughing during losses, not so much. Then again, we never had a losing season while he was starting, so losses weren't regular occurrences.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby thkthebest on Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:11 pm

This was all I could find, and oddly enough, revgen posted it.

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Then they felt similar to what i felt like...

I'm not surprised they feel that way. I just wish they could laugh at it like Bynum is and move on. We still have games to play. This is no time to jump off the bridge.


Anyway, I hope Bynum does well. I'll reserve judgement, but I'm interested to see if the 76ers can play better than .500 ball with Bynum. So far, the Nuggets are the only team that has gotten better (record-wise) after the Dwight trade. :man10:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:20 pm

thkthebest wrote:This was all I could find, and oddly enough, revgen posted it.

revgen wrote:
BigDan24 wrote:
Then they felt similar to what i felt like...

I'm not surprised they feel that way. I just wish they could laugh at it like Bynum is and move on. We still have games to play. This is no time to jump off the bridge.


Anyway, I hope Bynum does well. I'll reserve judgement, but I'm interested to see if the 76ers can play better than .500 ball with Bynum. So far, the Nuggets are the only team that has gotten better (record-wise) after the Dwight trade. :man10:


That was in regards to Bynum's "we're like Santa Clause" joke he told reporters during a POSTGAME interview in the locker room. I don't mind D12 or Bynum or whomever telling a joke in the locker room to let off some steam after the game is over. Whatever you got to do to clear your mind and move on, do it. But when a game is going on, you should keep your game face on, especially if your team is losing. Save the jokes for the locker room.

I agree. I wish we had George Karl instead of the 2 Mikes.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Bowling for dollars

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:59 pm

revgen wrote:If Bynum's "slow" feet were responsible for our defensive breakdowns, we wouldn't keep having them with our 3x DPOY onboard.


This right here is what I tried to say a few times only to be shouted down in caps with the terms DOMINANT and DPOY.....

The proof is right in front of everyone in the form of our crappier defense this year..... but it will always be Bynum's fault last year and everyone but Howard's this year it seems..... When the truth is somewhere between......
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