Andrew Bynum Discussion: Out for the season, 2x knee surgery

^ massive, even bigger/more muscular than when he left the Lakers.. i'm hoping he proves all his naysayers wrong (again).

with 2 jacked up knees, shouldn't he be trying to slim down?

Psychobroker wrote:^ massive, even bigger/more muscular than when he left the Lakers.. i'm hoping he proves all his naysayers wrong (again).

Again? When did he ever prove us wrong? Shouldn't he be playing to be able to prove us wrong in the first place? He also has a lot of maturing left to do.

I don't think he looks that much bigger, except for his hair...

laker911 wrote:He also has a lot of maturing left to do.

It's a center thing..... apparently.....

for old times sake

^


I do miss Bynum's antics.

laker911 wrote:

Psychobroker wrote:^ massive, even bigger/more muscular than when he left the Lakers.. i'm hoping he proves all his naysayers wrong (again).

Again? When did he ever prove us wrong? Shouldn't he be playing to be able to prove us wrong in the first place? He also has a lot of maturing left to do.

Depending upon who you are...

1) When he became an all-star and a 2nd team all-nba player last season.

2) Oh, and my favorite one...when he became an all-star and a 2nd team All-NBA player, people were making the excuse that Pau "sacrificed his game" so that Bynum could achieve those goals. Nevermind that it was Pau who played like crap during the 2011 playoffs, forcing Bynum into the 2nd option role by necessity. Pau continues his course of horrible play even when Bynum is gone.

3) Our defense continues to suck eggs despite our "slow lazy center" not being here anymore. Our 3x DPOY center was supposed to kiss it and make it better. It appears that some PF "throw in" Mitch acquired in the Howard deal is actually making it better while our "slow lazy PF" is out.

4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.

revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.

D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.

D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still

Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum.

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.

D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still

Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum.

While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be. Seriously I dont understand how you still crying bout Bynum, I mean if he was actually PLAYING and making some sort of impact I can understand your argument here but dam dude, how exactly can you still back Bynum up when he's out AGAIN for the very same reasoning most of us fans wanted him gone for?

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.

D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still

Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum.

While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be. Seriously I dont understand how you still crying bout Bynum, I mean if he was actually PLAYING and making some sort of impact I can understand your argument here but dam dude, how exactly can you still back Bynum up when he's out AGAIN for the very same reasoning most of us fans wanted him gone for?

What level? He's scoring less than Bynum did last season, rebounding slightly higher, turning the ball over at a much higher rate, and shooting FT's like crap. 1000x the player Bynum ever was? Now you're just being cute.

I'm not the one crying about Bynum. Laker911 was. Whining about "How were we ever wrong?". He asked. I answered. He could have let Psychobroker's comment alone and said nothing.

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:4) The "D12 is a franchise player" crowd. Oops. Looks like we'll be looking for #1 to pair with #2 when Kobe and Nash leave.

D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still

Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum.

While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be.

What level? He's scoring less than Bynum did last season, rebounding slightly higher, turning the ball over at a much higher rate, and shooting FT's like crap. 1000x the player Bynum ever was? Now you're just being cute.

was is all you got is whats more cute .......like I said one's PLAYING the other is "thats what I'm hoping for" and Bynum put up those #'s only once and now you're using that as a baramoter for his whole career?

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:
D12 while not a true franchise player is as close to it as you can get while Bynum case couldn't be further from the truth. Only in Lakerland can we still have fans complaining bout not having a gimp of C still

Only in Lakerland do you have posters putting Dwight Howard in the same echelon as Hakeem, Shaq, and Kareem while claiming that our degenerating PF "sacrificed his game" for Bynum.

While I dont put Howard in those class of players, the fact he's playing at this level while recovering from back surgery makes him 1000x the player Bynum is, was and will ever be.

What level? He's scoring less than Bynum did last season, rebounding slightly higher, turning the ball over at a much higher rate, and shooting FT's like crap. 1000x the player Bynum ever was? Now you're just being cute.

was is all you got is whats more cute .......like I said one's PLAYING the other is "thats what I'm hoping for" and Bynum put up those #'s only once and now you're using that as a baramoter for his whole career?

I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?

revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?

when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?

when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.

My boy?

And D12 isn't your boy?

Yes. I compared Bynum's last season with this team to D12's this season. Why? Because I'm not a Magic fan. I don't give a damn what D12 did for them. What is he doing for us? So far, overall, not much different than what Bynum was doing last season. So the idea that D12 is 1000x better than Bynum is simply hilarious considering what he's doing on the floor this season and what our W-L record is.

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?

when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.

My boy?

And D12 isn't your boy?

Yes. I compared Bynum's last season with this team to D12's this season. Why? Because I'm not a Magic fan. I don't give a damn what D12 did for them. What is he doing for us? So far, overall, not much different than what Bynum was doing last season. So the idea that D12 is 1000x better than Bynum is simply hilarious considering what he's doing on the floor this season and what our W-L record is.

as oppose to what Drew's doing on the floor this season right? and No D12 is not my boy but yes I did hate Bynum and all the reasons I hated him are pretty much proven true, immature, slow, and most important knees of a 80yr old.

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:

khmrP wrote:

revgen wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about here. Did I say anything about "barometer for his whole career" anywhere in my previous post?

when you arguing my WAS, you use Bynum one good season to compare to current injured Howard and call it cute? Whats cute is you actually using ONE good season to compare to Howard career of good season. Man I wonder what kind of "excuse" oops I mean reasoning you could come up with to support that gimpif that Howard trade didn't go through and your boy was still here.

My boy?

And D12 isn't your boy?

Yes. I compared Bynum's last season with this team to D12's this season. Why? Because I'm not a Magic fan. I don't give a damn what D12 did for them. What is he doing for us? So far, overall, not much different than what Bynum was doing last season. So the idea that D12 is 1000x better than Bynum is simply hilarious considering what he's doing on the floor this season and what our W-L record is.

as oppose to what Drew's doing on the floor this season right? and No D12 is not my boy but yes I did hate Bynum and all the reasons I hated him are pretty much proven true, immature, slow, and most important knees of a 80yr old.

Once again, what Bynum and D12 do for other teams besides ours doesn't concern me.

D12 isn't your boy, but you claim he's 1000x better than Bynum ever was? He'd have to be Kareem-level at least to come even close to being 1000x better.

Immature compared to who? Howard? Slow compared to who? Yao Ming? His "80 year old knees" have done way more for this team so far than D12's knees have. Until that changes, the "1000x better" proclamation is simply a joke.

Weezy wrote:Uh... yeah... Anyway, Bynum is looking better, hopefully he can come back in the timetable he set, looking forward to seeing him back out there

Interesting...... a sentiment not held by many here......

revgen wrote:Once again, what Bynum and D12 do for other teams besides ours doesn't concern me.

D12 isn't your boy, but you claim he's 1000x better than Bynum ever was? He'd have to be Kareem-level at least to come even close to being 1000x better.

Immature compared to who? Howard? Slow compared to who? Yao Ming? His "80 year old knees" have done way more for this team so far than D12's knees have. Until that changes, the "1000x better" proclamation is simply a joke.

dwight immature off the court, Bynum immature on and off the court, so yea there's big difference there. How exactly would knock knee Bynum being more for this team again when he's still sideline? Slow compared to Noah, Chandler, more so even compared to the current bum of a center according to you thats currently on our team who btw is recovering and still PLAYING from back surgery something you have FAILED thus far to acknowledge in any of your rebuttal in regards to Bynum. So like I said you are a true fan through and through to still be able to argue in Bynum favor when the dude career is probably over in the next 2-3yrs tops if he's lucky.

This thread title is just priceless

Anyways, I was excited to see how Drew would do in Philly being the #1 option of their halfcourt game, so it's been pretty disappointing to see him injured all this time. Hopefully he comes back while the season isn't close to over and Philly makes it back to the top 8

Weezy wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:

Weezy wrote:Uh... yeah... Anyway, Bynum is looking better, hopefully he can come back in the timetable he set, looking forward to seeing him back out there

Interesting...... a sentiment not held by many here......

I don't see why not, Bynum didn't leave here with bad intent, he didn't speak ill of the Lakers, he was traded and went with it no problem. I like Drew, he did a lot for us when he was here. I wish him good health going forward and hopefully a long career. A good friend of mine is a Sixers fan, and his team could use a healthy Bynum right about now, I hope he helps them out.

I think you misunderstand.... I was pointing out the continued and even sometimes emphatic support for Bynum to be on any other team..... it had nothing to do with Bynum or his performance in LA.

I wish him well against 28 teams for the rest of his career. He had a few minor issues here that got blown way out of proportion but for the majority of his time here he was a good the very good player for us.