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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:31 am

I think i would be most PO'd at Bynum though....all year its been a question mark...and I think it woulda been easier if he just shut himself down for the whole year...at least his teammates wouldn't be thinking about when he would come back...

It's been a disappointing year for the Sixers...as they gave up some nice pieces to get Bynum...and those pieces happen to be starting for the Magic now and playing pretty well....not to mention Iguodala is helping the Denver Nuggets tremendously right now with his all around game.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:42 am

KB24 wrote:Lol he creamed Bynum and every other player too.

Vujevic (traded to Magic) had 19 boards tonight...Hawes had 1. Lol


alot of outsiders were laughing at Orl for not wanting any part of Bynum, guess who laughing now :man10:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:09 pm

He was supposed to talk to the media before the game giving an update on his health & didnt. Nobody saw him in the building either & left after the game ended
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:49 pm

khmrP wrote:alot of outsiders were laughing at Orl for not wanting any part of Bynum, guess who laughing now :man10:

:man3: PHI has a better record than ORL.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby gcclaker on Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:29 pm

KB24 wrote:Lol he creamed Bynum and every other player too.

Vujevic (traded to Magic) had 19 boards tonight...Hawes had 1. Lol

Collins is hyper. He's emotional. He's blunt. Inspite of all that, I always thought he was a good coach. On attitude alone and player management, I'd take him for D'Antoni seven days a week and twice on Sundays.

Bynum...tough to see that this season for him looks to be just about shelved. I was really looking forward to watching the Sixers and see how they do.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby juninho on Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:45 pm

According to Howard Eskin of Fox 29 News in Philadelphia, the Rockets are set to offer Andrew Bynum a multi-year contract this summer in free agency. Bynum, the 25 year old center with the Philadelphia 76ers, has missed the entire season after being traded from Los Angeles in the Dwight Howard deal.


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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:19 pm

I'll take him over MDA, but god, let's just name him interim coach for now.

Bulls with Jordan and Pippen couldn't get it done with Collins. I think he'd be a decent assistant. He's extremely head strong, not going to work in an industry of multi-millionare ego-driven athletes.

7 of 10 years as head coach he got his team to a First Round loss or worse.

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:56 am

Greg Oden 2.0?

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/ESPNs_Skip_Bayless_reports_Phildelphia_76ers_Andrew_Bynum_has_degenerative_knee_condition.html

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On Wednesday’s episode of ESPN’s debate-style show, First Take, there was a segment dedicated to the struggling 76ers, in which anchors Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless discussed the state of the franchise going forward after Tuesday’s embarrassing loss to Orlando that prompted head coach Doug Collins to question his team's effort.

At one point during the discussion, Bayless said that a source inside the Sixers organization told him that the most recent MRI on Andrew Bynum’s knees showed "degeneration," meaning in effect that they will never return to full strength. Bynum was also a no-show in the locker room prior to Tuesday's game, when he was scheduled to give an update on his condition.

Bayless continued by explaining that Andrew may show some flashes of the dominance he displayed last season, when he averaged 18.7 points and 11.8 rebounds per game for the Lakers, but he will be unable to sustain it, as the knees will never be able to fully recover.

Keep in mind that this is not an official report, and the fact that Bayless, not known for his NBA connections, would be the only one with access to the information should make one somewhat skeptical.

However, if turns out to be true, this would be a huge revelation for the Sixers.

The difficult decision as to whether or not they should take a chance on signing Bynum to a lucrative, long-term deal would be defunct as re-signing him could mean several more years of knee issues and little (or no) production.

If this report is true, then you can bet Bynum and the Sixers will go their separate ways.




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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby revgen on Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:44 am

They said the same thing about Jermaine O'Neal when he was in Boston.

O'Neal said Boston team doctors have taken MRIs of his injury and have identified potential ailments...one of those concerns appears to be knee arthritis, a degenerative condition...

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=5796803
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:09 am

I don't put much stock into Skip's, "source." However, take in mind if this is true, it's even more reason for the Sixers organization to not give him the Max deal this summer. I like Drew, but he's screwed if this information is true. Maybe he should try to find a one way ticket to Phoenix.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:37 am

Chillbongo wrote:
khmrP wrote:alot of outsiders were laughing at Orl for not wanting any part of Bynum, guess who laughing now :man10:

:man3: PHI has a better record than ORL.


uh hello, Orl goal isn't to win this year fact is Orl has a 2-3 solid role players going forward and not have to worry about committing salary to a big with degenerative knees.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:38 am

revgen wrote:They said the same thing about Jermaine O'Neal when he was in Boston.

O'Neal said Boston team doctors have taken MRIs of his injury and have identified potential ailments...one of those concerns appears to be knee arthritis, a degenerative condition...

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=5796803


and Oneal lived up to those reports by missing most of his games played in Bos. So I guess Bynum better take JO lead and sign with Pho.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:17 am

Like I said, I'd do my homework. I'd talk to every single doctor he's ever been to to see what his knees really look like and whether or not he can recover.

Then I'd let the market dictate his price. If Houston indeed offers him a big contract, I'll surpass their offer to keep him. But if they don't and no one else does, I'd only offer him a 2-3 year deal worth that max. I'm not going to guarantee money to such a massive injury risk. I'm sorry.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Juronimo on Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:32 pm

What Skip Bayless said at 5:26 I couldn't disagree more.
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Postby Tragic on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:23 pm

Phoenix has a miracle healing staff.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby abeer3 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:48 pm

if you're philly, do you consider offering him a one- or two-year max deal? teams like houson are going to try to snag him AND save enough cash to get someone else. if you're philly, you can put a stop to that with some creative offers, i would think. I'd just find a price point that scare off suitors who want to load up in FA and offer a shorter deal.

if a team wants to throw 4 years, 50 million at them, let him go. but don't let him get snagged for 8 per or something like that.

and yes, if you're bynum and phx, aren't you eyeing each other? i have no idea how they continue to work miracles there.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:47 am

abeer3 wrote:if you're philly, do you consider offering him a one- or two-year max deal? teams like houson are going to try to snag him AND save enough cash to get someone else. if you're philly, you can put a stop to that with some creative offers, i would think. I'd just find a price point that scare off suitors who want to load up in FA and offer a shorter deal.

if a team wants to throw 4 years, 50 million at them, let him go. but don't let him get snagged for 8 per or something like that.

and yes, if you're bynum and phx, aren't you eyeing each other? i have no idea how they continue to work miracles there.


I'm sure they can offer a full Max Deal with a buyout clause if/when his knees limit his play. That way they get the potential upside and protect themselves somewhat from the downside.

The degenerating knee thing is frightening and if true too bad. When this kids healthy and motivated he's the best offensive big man in the game and a pretty decent defensive one as well.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:43 am

I hope he doesn't turn into a Brandon Roy case, but the longer he doesn't play the more and more likely it looks that way.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:14 pm

https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/statuses/307557903886323713

Andrew Bynum said he doesn't worry about perceptions for sitting out all year. "I'm 25. It's my life." #sixers

https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307556434390949888

"Now it's getting late. I don't know." --Bynum, on whether he'll play this season


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307558322012307457



Bynum said he WAS at WFC Tues, said he was getting treatment. Knows value of being on bench. "It's important for me to be a cheerleader."


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307558514388267008
Andrew Bynum said he experienced swelling in his right knee (the site of the original injury) after last Friday's 5-on-5 scrimmage.


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307559316339179520

Andrew Bynum: “It's like if your right arm is hurting, they punch you in the left one so you forget about the right one. Thats where I'm at"


http://sixersdish.blogspot.com/2013/03/andrew-bynum-on-whether-hell-play-this.html

As for playing to get his next contract, Bynum said he doesn't feel the need to rush anything. The Sixers have 26 games to go and Bynum, an unrestricted free agent, isn't worried about his next deal.

“Being healthy is more important than everything else,” Bynum said. “If I am healthy, I'll get a deal. I have to be able to play and I need to get to the point where I'm healthy to play.”


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307567374058541056

Collins said he's been coaching Sixers all season like Bynum would miss full season: "Always been a possibility."


https://twitter.com/gonzoCSN/statuses/307562858303070211

Bynum was 100 percent sure he'd play this year. Said that a little over a week ago. And now? Now that 100 percent has vanished #Sixerstalk


https://twitter.com/gonzoCSN/statuses/307558171872997376

When asked if he's worried about perception that he doesn't want to play in pain, Bynum said "that's true, I don't want to play in pain"
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby KB24 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:20 pm

such a crazy and weird story...On the one hand I'm extremely happy we got rid of this damaged good, on the other hand I feel bad for him.

Slowly but surely it looks like he will never be the player his abilities suggest he would become.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:37 pm

Lakerswere smart to get rid of him and upgrade at the same time. It looks like hs's going the way of Oden.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dj vitus on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:45 pm

Just imagine Phoenix with a healthy lineup of:

Bynum
Oden
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Roy

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They would dominate the league forever.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:56 pm

The Lakers had to of known this about Bynum's knees, IMO. I'm sure the Sixers did their due dilligence, but they gambled & now left with a wasted season waiting on an injured center that might not play this season at all.

I couldn't imagine having to deal with the current cirumstances that faced the Lakers this year coupled with this if we would have kept Bynum. Strange how things turn out sometimes...
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Weezy on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:33 pm

Wow, no matter how you look at it now we got a great deal in Bynum for Howard. Bynum might not play this season, and instead of being just an expiring for us he got us a relatively healthy center that on most nights is the best in the game. I'm not a huge Howard fan, especially not as a #1 option, but that's undeniably a good deal, even if Howard walks it's a lot of money off the books, or even potentially a good sign and trade, while Drew, may never play again for all we know.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:51 pm

Weezy wrote:Wow, no matter how you look at it now we got a great deal in Bynum for Howard. Bynum might not play this season, and instead of being just an expiring for us he got us a relatively healthy center that on most nights is the best in the game. I'm not a huge Howard fan, especially not as a #1 option, but that's undeniably a good deal, even if Howard walks it's a lot of money off the books, or even potentially a good sign and trade, while Drew, may never play again for all we know.


Yes it was a good deal. I don't think Andrew was going to re-sign here and I think he made that clear. He's also not the kind of guy you can coerce with the larger max deal by his current team.... he's always been a little more "independent" than the average NBA player.

The bone bruise injuries will heal and typically they do not leave permanent damage. If he has degenerative cartilage (something I've dealt with since my Football days) that is a different story. At 25 he may have another 3 or 4 years before the bone on bone condition sets in..... then it's over....
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