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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:55 pm

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Andrew Bynum's agent continues to keep the specifics of his client's knee issue a secret.

All of the publicly available information on Bynum suggests a probable diagnosis of osteochondral lesions says one of the nation's top orthopedic surgeons, a condition that may keep Bynum out for the season.

The condition could heal on its own within four to six months, but that would keep Bynum out until March or April.

The surgeon said that surgery could keep him from playing for up to a year.

Bynum should know whether he needs surgery by December.
The surgeon spoke on condition of anonymity because Bynum is not his patient.





http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/224596/Bynum_Could_Be_Out_Until_March_With_Rest_One_Year_With_Surgery

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Well I was curious as to what osteochondarl lesions are. Not a very good ring to it. Sounds like bad news according to this on a Cedars - Sinai site:

http://www.cedars-sinai.edu/Patients/He ... icans.aspx

Osteochondral Lesions/Osteochondritis Dessicans

Osteochondral lesions or osteochondritis dessicans can occur in any joint, but are most common in the knee and ankle. Such lesions are a tear or fracture in the cartilage covering one of the bones in a joint. The cartilage can be torn, crushed or damaged and, in rare cases, a cyst can form in the cartilage.

In the knee, such cartilage damage can occur between the femur (thigh bone) and the tibia (shin bone). In the ankle, osteochondral lesions usually occur on the talus, which is the bone that connects the leg to the foot.


Symptoms

After the initial pain and discomfort of a strain or sprain subsides, individuals usually resume or even increase their activity level. If an osteochondral lesion has occurred, however, everyday activities that put pressure on the joint, may lead to pain and swelling, although the joint usually is fine when at rest. A patient with an osteochondral lesion will often feel a dull ache in the joint and may also experience a mild locking or clicking of their knee or ankle joint. The affected joint may also seem to be loose.

Causes and Risk Factors

Usually, an osteochondral lesion occurs when there is an injury to the joint, especially if there is an ankle sprain or if the knee is badly twisted. Individuals who play sports such as soccer, football, rugby and golf may be at risk of an osteochondral lesion. Although the cause of such lesions is unknown, they may involve a genetic predisposition to such a condition. They also may be caused by abnormal bone development, especially when they occur in children. Repetitive trauma has also been associated with the development of such lesions.

Diagnosis

It can be challenging to diagnose an osteochondral lesion at the time of injury. Many scans may miss the damage caused by the lesion, which is also masked by the sprain or trauma that caused the injury.

A physician will examine the joint for instability and range of motion. An X-ray may be ordered, but a cartilage tear is difficult to see on an X-ray, so a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) or computed tomography (CT) scan may be required. In some cases, both an MRI and CT are needed to diagnose an osteochondral lesion.

Treatment

Although wearing a brace or cast may ease the discomfort of an osteochondral lesion, they are usually not enough to remedy the problem permanently, except in children, who can respond well to non-surgical treatment.

For adults, such a condition usually requires surgery. The type of surgery that is most effective depends on the size, location and severity of the lesion. Most commonly, a surgeon will perform an arthroscopic exploration and treatment. The damaged cartilage is cleaned out and removed. If the damage is small, the surgeon may drill into the bone, which causes a small amount of bleeding and encourages healing. If damage is extensive, then a bone graft can be inserted to replace the cartilage. For older patients, a knee replacement may be an option. It is not a preferred option for younger patients, since failure of the knee replacement and the need for revision is more likely in younger patients.

After surgery, weight should be kept off the affected knee or ankle for four to six weeks. In some cases a cast must be worn for part or all of that period. Physiotherapy is then recommended to rehabilitate the affected knee or ankle. The vast majority of patients experience no pain or swelling even 10 years after surgical treatment of such lesions in the ankle. Treatments for lesions in the knee are more challenging, but also have promising outcomes.


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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby noobiew on Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:06 am

I am really rooting hard for Bynum and want him to success in Philly, wish you a fast recovery Drew !
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Phil XI on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:16 am

gcclaker wrote: He could have been another Joe Barry Carroll... for that matter.

Lakers fans wouldve given a left nut for JBC-like start to career from Bynum - only missed 15 gms in first 6 years, avgd about 21/9. It was the second half of his career that spoiled his rep (and the succedd of the Celtics at GSWs expense).
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Frank Dux on Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:58 pm

I hope he doesn't trick another team into giving him the max. He's fools gold, and whoever signs him is in for years of torment. It's not a matter of "if", but "when" his knee is going to blow up again. I'm alarmed at his nonchalance attitude towards dealing with his injuries in the past. Never seeming to take proper precautions. There's a reason he's not a superstar, and will never be one. And that's because he just doesn't care about the game enough.

In contrast Derrick Rose is fighting tooth and nail to come back. He's dying without the game of basketball in his life. He was crying for goodness sake.

That is love for the game, and I always wish Bynum had the same attitude.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby The Rock on Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:59 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8671136/andrew-bynum-philadelphia-76ers-indefinitely

PHILADELPHIA -- Andrew Bynum is out indefinitely and there is no timetable for his first game with the Philadelphia 76ers.

The All-Star center was acquired from the Los Angeles Lakers in a four-team trade before the season. He had been recovering from a bone bruise on his right knee and his return has now been pushed back four times since the beginning of training camp.

The Sixers were hoping Bynum would be cleared to return to basketball activities by Dec. 10 before he injured his left knee while bowling two weeks ago.

Sixers general manager Tony DiLeo says Bynum has "bilateral bone bruises and a weakened cartilage state" in his knees. Still, DiLeo defended the trade that sent All-Star forward Andre Iguodala to Denver in the multiteam deal.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:16 pm

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Sixers say Bynum's knees "are not the same" as when they traded for him, admit they've considered future without him: http://es.pn/TcUoN7
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby kenzo on Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:25 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
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Sixers say Bynum's knees "are not the same" as when they traded for him, admit they've considered future without him: http://es.pn/TcUoN7
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This sounds realy bad :man5:
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby ThizGuy83 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:57 pm

how many seasons before bynum becomes a free agent? and if sixers would actually consider to amnesty bynum... when could they do it? as soon as next off season?
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby revgen on Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:13 pm

^This is the last season of his current contract. He'll be a FA this offseason.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby kenzo on Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:25 pm

Drew needs to sign with Phoenix. These guys are amazing... this season they resurrected JO :man4:
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby dj vitus on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:04 pm

Dang, Philly lost Lou Will, Jodie Meeks, AI, and Elton Brand all in one off-season for nothing.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby ThizGuy83 on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:12 pm

revgen wrote:^This is the last season of his current contract. He'll be a FA this offseason.

im pretty sure his days with the sixers will be over before it even began... some team will pick him up tho but it wont be a max contract... mle player maybe... if his knees are even tolerable to play by then
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby GoldHammish on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:41 pm

kenzo wrote:Drew needs to sign with Phoenix. These guys are amazing... this season they resurrected JO :man4:

Hell, they should sign Roy and Oden while they're at it
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby dmaul on Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:26 pm

I'm pretty sure he'll still get a pretty good contract after this season. Not the max but definitely more than the MLE. Never underestimate the stupidity of owners willing to overpay. They like to complain about player salaries and whenever a CBA is up, they want to institute new terms and stipulations to protect themselves from making dumb deals. Hell, the Lakers overpaid Kwame Brown even though he proved to the entire league that he was a bona fide stiff. So we're not immune any more than the next team. Every owner thinks they can be the one who changes the player or that they'll "blossom" once they get here.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby The Rock on Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:47 am

These quotes make it sound like hes done for the year.

"Bottom line is Andrew is out indefinitely," DiLeo said before the Sixers played the Oklahoma City Thunder. "There are no timelines; we just have to wait and see how he reacts."


Bynum has bone bruises in both knees and is dealing with what his doctors call a "weakened cartilage state." He is believed to have done some additional damage by bowling two weeks ago.

DiLeo said the state of Bynum's knees has worsened since the team traded for him and it's changed the team's risk outlook.

"His knees now and the MRIs are not the same; it's a different type (of) situation," DiLeo said. "At the time of the trade, we had four doctors look at his MRI; we knew it was a calculated risk. We also knew we were getting the second-best center in the league, a franchise-type player. We took that risk."

Bynum is still doing low-impact rehab and the team is hoping that rest will heal the cartilage. DiLeo said the team is consulting experts around the world and examining Bynum's rehab closely. There will be no more bowling, and DiLeo said Bynum has been instructed to avoid any activity that could cause stress on the knees.

"(The bowling injury) is an unfortunate situation; when the cartilage is in a weakened state anything can happen," DiLeo said. "Basically, you can't do anything that is going to jeopardize any kind of rehab."

Neither the Sixers nor Bynum have talked about a surgical option to repair the cartilage, a move that could knock Bynum out for a year. Last week, Bynum said: "There's no surgical procedures that will really help or are safe to do at the moment. I've just got to bide my time."

Bynum is in the final year of his contract that pays him $16.5 million. The Sixers traded All-Star Andre Iguodala, young prospects Moe Harkless and Nikola Vucevic and a future first-round pick to get Bynum and veteran guard Jason Richardson. They had hoped to sign him to a long-term contract next summer.

DiLeo said the team is still hoping Bynum will heal but admits it is already having to look at other scenarios.

"We hope he will back; we're anticipating he will be back at some point," DiLeo said. "We have plans for the future if he is not back with us but we want to plan on him being here long-term."
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby Magic Skywalker on Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:00 am

I've got nothing against Philly, so it's a shame that trade went so bad for them, but man I'm glad this isn't happening to us
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:58 am

I hope Bynum hasn't blown through most of his money knowing that max contract was coming. Seriously. But WTF has happened in there (knees) that has deteriorated the cartilage per recent MRIs compared to what they were looking at when they agreed to the trade??
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby hollywood swinger on Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:56 am

LTLakerFan wrote:I hope Bynum hasn't blown through most of his money knowing that max contract was coming. Seriously. But WTF has happened in there (knees) that has deteriorated the cartilage per recent MRIs compared to what they were looking at when they agreed to the trade??


Bynum has gremlins in his knees eating away the cartilage
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby kenzo on Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:38 am

GoldHammish wrote:
kenzo wrote:Drew needs to sign with Phoenix. These guys are amazing... this season they resurrected JO :man4:

Hell, they should sign Roy and Oden while they're at it

Seriously though, if i was Oden i would do everything to end up/sign with PHX. As for Roy, im afraid he's beyond done :man5:
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby 432J on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:58 am

kenzo wrote:
GoldHammish wrote:
kenzo wrote:Drew needs to sign with Phoenix. These guys are amazing... this season they resurrected JO :man4:

Hell, they should sign Roy and Oden while they're at it

Seriously though, if i was Oden i would do everything to end up/sign with PHX. As for Roy, im afraid he's beyond done :man5:

other way around i'd say

i think oden is definitely done for. but if i was roy i would push and push to sign with the suns and have that magical medical staff work its black magic
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby jimbo327 on Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:00 am

LTLakerFan wrote:I hope Bynum hasn't blown through most of his money knowing that max contract was coming. Seriously. But WTF has happened in there (knees) that has deteriorated the cartilage per recent MRIs compared to what they were looking at when they agreed to the trade??


Yup, I hope he didn't blow all of his money, and he kept some saved up. But Bynum has been known to throw around a lot of money on exotic cars. He's got tricked out Ferraris (2), GTR, M6, Camero, Charger, Porsche 997, Mercedes. He's got expensive tastes. I don't know why 1 person would need that many cars, and cars are depreciating assets. Let's just hope he kept his grand lifestyle contained with only cars.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby KB24 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:08 am

So lucky we could get a deal done. Sounds terrible.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby thisbjgz on Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:59 am

Lol I remember a year ago, fans here supported Bynum like crazy and refused to trade him unless it was KD, Lebron, Dwight...

and here we are..with Dwight Howard for the next 10 years (hopefully)

how lucky are we? seriously sometimes you just gonna ask as Laker fans...we are seriously blessed.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby The Rock on Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:03 am

http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/29/andrew-bynum-lawsuit-guns-drugs-racism-neighbors-beckett/
NBA superstar Andrew Bynum is suing his next door neighbors, claiming they're violent, racist hooligans -- but the neighbors have fired back ... claiming Bynum is the REAL a-hole.

Bynum -- a former member of the L.A. Lakers -- claims that ever since he moved into his fancy home in Westchester, CA more than 7 years ago, he's been constantly harassed by his neighbors, Ramond and Cindy Beckett.

According to his lawsuit, filed in L.A. County Superior Court, Bynum says ... the Becketts have objected to his "profession, his race, his friends, his cars and his taste in music."

Bynum claims the Becketts have behaved like petulant children -- throwing coins at his Ferrari (which chipped the paint), screaming at him about his music, and even banging the side of his house with "a long stick."

But the Becketts quickly responded to the lawsuit with a countersuiit of their own -- TRASHING Bynum as the neighbor from hell who only sued them to preemptively strike against the lawsuit they had been planning.

In their legal docs, the Becketts UNLOAD on the NBA star -- claiming he's guilty of the following misdeeds:

-- brandishing FIREARMS in an attempt to intimidate the Becketts
-- "apparently" using drugs and allowing weed smoke to drift next door
-- blasting loud, profane rap music (including the song "Currency" by Trina)
-- blasting his video games at "window-shaking volumes"
-- letting his dogs run loose through the neighborhood
-- constantly racing his luxury cars at dangerous speeds

Bynum has denied the allegations ... and according to docs filed by Andrew, the Becketts have sold their house since the lawsuit was filed ... so they're no longer neighbors.

We reached to both sides -- no word back from either.
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Re: Drew Has Done Additional Damage To His Knees By Bowling

Postby revgen on Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:44 am

If Bynum brandished a firearm in public and threatened them, why didn't they call the police? Ditto with the "loud music" and "weed smoke". Sounds fishy to me.

Also they were apparently "planning a lawsuit" then "quickly filed a countersuit" after Bynum sued them.
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