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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dj vitus on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:50 pm

To me, it seemed like Bynum was more or less "forced" to play on 1 leg during our run. He was young, and the NBA was new to him, so he was more eager to play (than now) and he followed orders.

Maybe he's depressed from hurting his knees. Not being able to do your job can do that to you, making you lose passion, focus and what not.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby revgen on Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:03 am

So, in 2010, Bynum "followed orders" to play on a swollen limb that required constant draining of fluid? I'll need to see a source before I believe that.

Also, Bynum wasn't "new" when he played in 2010. It was his 5th year in the league. And he had played on a bum wheel the season before so he knew what he was in for. He wasn't naive.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby karacha on Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:47 am

I don't know what Magic is talking about. Bynum played hurt for us and contributed. OK, maybe he's not a gym rat -- but he did tolerate pain and play with drained knees in the playoffs.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:34 am

The Rock wrote:Well then, Magic

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Magic, though, thinks it's more of a bum attitude than anything physical.

"I loved playing basketball so I would play in pain. I did that for many years," Johnson said tonight on ESPN’s KIA NBA Countdown. "Andrew Bynum was here in Los Angeles with the Lakers. He wasn’t a guy who could tolerate pain. When he was injured, he wasn’t a guy who worked hard to get back. This doesn’t surprise me.

"Now we see why Kobe Bryant had trouble with the big man because when you think about Andrew, he’s a guy who never liked criticism. He’s not a gym rat. I think he plays because hey, I’m getting paid and I’m in the spotlight, but I don’t think he loves to play."


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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby JSM on Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:42 am

Feel bad for Drew and I feel bad for Collins, he's on the verge of losing it over there and this news certainly doesn't help. Selfishly, I'm just glad this isn't our problem, we've dealt with enough this season. So are people ready to reach for the fork? If I'm Houston, I don't touch him with a 10 1/2 foot pole. They don't exactly have the best of luck when it comes to injured stars (Yao, T-Mac). He should try to force his way to Phoenix in a S&T.
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Sources: Drew Considering Knee Surgery

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:31 am

Sources: Drew Considering Knee Surgery

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John N. Mitchell, Inquirer Staff Writer
Posted: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 2:02 AM

The 76ers and center Andrew Bynum are considering arthroscopic surgery on the player's right knee in order to clean out loose cartilage, a procedure that could likely end the season for the center they traded so many young assets to acquire, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Bynum suffered a setback in the form of swelling in his right knee following his participation in a five-on-five scrimmage, first reported in The Inquirer Feb. 22. While the Sixers have been unable to practice recently due to their schedule, Bynum would not have been able to participate due to the swelling in his knee, which was also first reported by The Inquirer.

Bynum said his left knee "feels good."

Following practice at Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine on Friday, Bynum acknowledged that his season might in fact be over.

"Now it's getting a little late, so I really don't know," Bynum said when asked if he were considering sitting out the final two months of the 76ers season. "I played in one scrimmage and [I have] a four- to five-day setback," Bynum said. He added that he is "just getting treatment and trying to push the fluid out" of his knee.

"I still think I can play," Bynum said, "but like I said, the season is short."

And growing shorter by the day for the teammates he has never shared the floor with since being traded to Philadelphia.

The Sixers (22-34) suffered their season-high seventh loss in a row at Chicago on Thursday, a setback that placed them six games out of the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference. They have lost eight road games in a row, and they have won just one road game in 2013, over the Los Angeles Lakers on New Year's Day.

The Sixers will try to break their losing streak at the Wells Fargo Center when they host the surprisingly good Golden State Warriors. After that, the Sixers will have 25 games remaining in the regular season. Of those remaining games, just nine are at the Wells Fargo Center. Of their last 16, 12 are on the road.

Sixers coach Doug Collins has tried all season to impress upon the Sixers that they must continue to play hard without Bynum, who last season with the Lakers earned second-team all-NBA honors after averaging 18.7 points on 55.8 percent shooting, 11.8 rebounds, and 1.9 blocks.

"From training camp on, I've tried to say, 'You know what, we don't have Andrew. We've got to play and then hopefully we get him back and he's going to really help us.' I haven't been waking up every morning saying, 'I hope he gets back today.' Do I hope that? Sure I do, but I've got to focus in on these guys who are playing every night," Collins said.

Bynum, acquired from the Lakers in a 12-player deal, had serious knee issues with Los Angeles. He had surgery in 2008 for a dislocated left kneecap and on his right knee in 2010 because of torn cartilage. He played every regular-season game only once in seven seasons with the Lakers.

Bynum, who is earning more than $16 million this season, will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. The Sixers hold his "Larry Bird" rights and therefore can pay him more than any other team. However, the Sixers must seriously consider the ramifications of re-signing a player with a history of knee problems.

In order to acquire Bynum last summer, the Sixers, who also acquired injured shooting guard Jason Richardson in the trade, dealt Andre Iguodala to Denver, and Maurice Harkless, Nik Vucevic, and a conditional first-round draft pick to Orlando.


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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Frank Dux on Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:50 am

Houston should not go near Bynum(I don't think any team should). They are a flashy uptempo young team. A team that already has a quality center that contributes on a nightly basis. Bynum is somewhat of a chemistry killer, and when he eventually gets playing time he won't be happy playing second banana to Harden. Houston is better off saving their cap space for an able bodied player, preferably an all star power forward who can stretch the floor. LMA or Love would be perfect for them.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Basketball Fan on Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:12 pm

The Bynum commentary on this blog is hilarious

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Mar 02, 2013 2:13 pm

Sources say Andrew Bynum has a degenerative condition in his knees; I'm no orthopedic surgeon, but that doesn't
sound like something that ever gets better. The best he can hope for is to manage the condition and hope to eke out a few more seasons. To that end, though, he is truly in a Catch-22: he has to ramp up his workouts and conditioning to get in playing shape, but his knees don't seem capable of handling ramped-up workouts and conditioning. He would be garnering far more sympathy if he hadn't developed a reputation in L.A. for not being diligent about following his rehab program after his initial knee issues. 9 minutes ago
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby lakefansac on Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:20 am

That's too bad. Bynum is essentially Ralph Sampson 2.0 Bynum lost a lot of explosion ever since his knee injury in 2008 that he has to gather himself more before every shot in the post.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby KB24 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:44 am

Get a haircut surgery first please.

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:26 am

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1961019

by Jason Wolf, USA TODAY Sports

Updated: 03/03/2013 09:50pm

WASHINGTON — Philadelphia 76ers general manager Tony DiLeo said that Andrew Bynum is considering arthroscopic surgery on his balky knees and that the organization has yet to decide whether to attempt to sign the one-time All-Star center once he becomes a free agent after this season.

Arthroscopic surgery to clean the loose cartilage out of Bynum's knees would ensure he does not play for the Sixers this season. Philadelphia entered Sunday night's contest trailing Milwaukee by 5½ games for the eighth and final playoff berth in the Eastern Conference with 25 games to play.

Building around Bynum remains the team's preferred option, if he's healthy.

"He is Plan A," DiLeo said Sunday before the Sixers played the Washington Wizards at the Verizon Center, speaking publicly for the first time since Bynum announced a setback in his rehab from what could be career-threatening knee injuries on Friday.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby XXIV on Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:34 am

He's going to want a long term deal and that's very risky for Philly unless they can get a team option.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby last stand on Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:11 pm

this whole situation isn't that bad for philly. they desperately wanted to shed that iggy contract. worst case scenario is bynum walks, they have plenty of cap space. holliday and turner are decent pieces. it's not doomsday, unless they sign bynum long term and the knee issues continue. then it becomes an issue
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:19 am

Pho has to take a chance on this guy, look at the miracle that is JO this season :man10:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby hoopschick03 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:17 pm

khmrP wrote:Pho has to take a chance on this guy, look at the miracle that is JO this season :man10:


JO is 34 years old, playing on a Vet's min. Andrew is 25, and turned down $58 million because he wants a $100 million. There's taking a chance, and there's being crazy. For the right price and contract structure, I'm sure Philly would love to keep Andrew and give it a go. And there will be a number of other teams looking for a bargain on those busted knees. But the question this summer will be how delusional Andrew and his agent will be.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:20 pm

hoopschick03 wrote: Andrew is 25, and turned down $58 million because he wants a $100 million.

Really? When did he turn down $58M?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby hoopschick03 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:30 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
hoopschick03 wrote: Andrew is 25, and turned down $58 million because he wants a $100 million.

Really? When did he turn down $58M?


Right after the trade. Philly stepped up, offered him the 3-year max totaling $58 million. And FWIW, Mitch told Drew that Philly would offer up the extension...and that he should take it. But Drew and his agent thought they could gamble on those defective knees, make it to 2013 FA healthy and get the full 5 years.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:44 pm

Agents are just screwing up their players these days. Never heard about this, can't believe I slipped over it.

Guess Philly's counting their blessings now...that just saved them a lot...he's probably not worth a max deal let alone the $58M given his knees...
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:09 pm

hoopschick03 wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:
hoopschick03 wrote: Andrew is 25, and turned down $58 million because he wants a $100 million.

Really? When did he turn down $58M?


Right after the trade. Philly stepped up, offered him the 3-year max totaling $58 million. And FWIW, Mitch told Drew that Philly would offer up the extension...and that he should take it. But Drew and his agent thought they could gamble on those defective knees, make it to 2013 FA healthy and get the full 5 years.

Do you have a link to this?

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby revgen on Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:02 am

Here's the situation. The max extension that Bynum could have gotten from the 76ers in August would have been 2 years due to CBA rules which wouldn't have allowed the 76ers to sign him to a 3 year extension until 6 months after the trade. If he and 76ers did agree to extend, it would have been planned to take place in February if it was to happen at all.

Here's the ProBasketballTalk article mentioning the February 10th details.

As of Feb. 10 (six months after they traded for him) Bynum could sign a max extension, which is three years at just shy of $60 million.


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/25/sixers-bynum-not-talking-extension-which-is-to-be-expected/

Here's the CBA FAQ mentioning the 6 months clause.

Conversely, a team cannot extend a player it receives in trade for six months, if the extension exceeds the limits of an extend-and-trade1.


http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q92

In other words, Bynum passed up on a 2 year extension if the extension was even offered by Philly in August or September. I doubt that Philly was really interested in only keeping Bynum for 2 years anyway, especially since they could offer him 3 years in February, so my guess is that an extension was never offered. A 2 year extension wouldn't have made sense to Bynum or Philly at that time.

Bynum's injury issues this season have probably brought any talk about an extension between Bynum and the Philly FO to a halt, if there were any in the first place.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby ThizGuy83 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:54 pm

we would of been really F'd if we never traded bynum... glad that mitch did it but sucks for bynum on his situation...
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Balance&Options24 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:56 pm

Sucks for him but glad he's not our problem.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Weezy on Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:06 pm

Damn, that is rough. Guy should just call it a career so he can still walk as an old man, some guys just aren't built to play the game.
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