Andrew Goudelock Waived: no longer a Laker (pg 23)

kray28 · by **kray28** on Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:43 pm

DJO might be useful because he's supposedly super athletic, can shoot, and can defend smaller guards.

I don't know who thinks Morris will pan out, but apparently he has some fans in the front office. Clark stays because he's another big athletic body and he gets paid too much to cut.

Ariza3 · by **Ariza3** on Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:22 pm

“@paugasol: Today @0goudelock got waived from our team. I know he's going to be all right and wherever his next destination might be, he'll get buckets!”

JGC · by **JGC** on Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:25 pm

therealdeal wrote:
Vasashi17 wrote:Glock wasn't a good fit fellas...and don't forget there are 2 sides of the ball. On defense (which should be the emphasis here...we got 4 All-stars on the team....we'll be fine in regards to scoring fellas) dude would've got killed. He's too short to guard a typical SG and too slow (not athletic enough) to guard the PG.

Offensively he could hold his own and no one is saying he can't...but in terms of commanding the offense as a PG, he couldn't do that and more importantly, defensively he's a huge liability. Either our bigs would be exposed to foul trouble or perimeter players would have good looks cause he's not tall enough to challenge the shot.

This explains better than I've been doing. The stats are definitely misleading as far as production goes.

And he averaged 0.5 assists and 0.5 turnovers. His assist/to ratio is 1:1 which is awful for any guard position.

I agree about his limitations defensively, but he is a role player coming off the bench in limited minutes. Every player that comes off the bench in a limited capacity is going to have areas of their game that is weak. Thats why they come off the bench instead of making big bucks as a 35 mpg starter. I mean its fair to say Goudelock is too small to defend SGs And too slow to defend PGs but you could say the same for Jamison. Too small to defend 4s and too slow to defend 3s but so what he can score for us.

dj vitus · by **dj vitus** on Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:30 pm

live and die in LA wrote:Okay so maybe Glock is a liability on defense and an undersized shooting guard, I get that. I just have a hard time thinking guys like Morris, Clark and DJO can contribute more to this team. At least we knew Goudelock had the range and a deadly floater. I truly believe he will make it somewhere as a spark off the bench.

Yeah, just wait until he goes to either the Clippers, Heat, or Thunder, and then torches us out of our own building.

I'm sure ANY coach would love to have him on their team as an extra shooter. Why the heck were we trying to make him a PG? Can we really teach a duck to run better than to swim? We have four freaking PGs already! :freak2:

Willx · by **Willx** on Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:11 am

This really sucks.. First CDR then Goudelock... I honestly think Goudelock was our second best shooter under Nash... I think he has a better shot than Meeks, but can't keep up on D due to his size.. :bang:

jimbo327 · by **jimbo327** on Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:39 am

BDG wrote:Like others said, I wish we waived Morris instead ... didn't really understand why we extended him.

This. I would have liked to have kept CDR, Glock, and Sacre out of the bench. We should have waived Morris, and keep DJO if possible. If not, go the D-league with Glock or DJO.

To me, Glock was like Sasha.

wcsoldier81 · by **wcsoldier81** on Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:45 am

It will have little impact on the outcome of our season but I can say I have been very unimpressed by the talent evaluation from the Lakers ... CDR and G-Lock definetely could have helped at some point during the season ...

I understand you can't waive a Duhon or Clark like that from a financial standpoint , but to give Morris a guaranteed contract over Glock ? poor choice

Finwë · by **Finwë** on Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:21 am

I wouldn't have waived him.

Frank Dux · by **Frank Dux** on Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:51 am

I never really got why Goudelock got so much love around here. "Mini Mamba" is probably the worst nickname in the league, and I cringe every time I hear someone say it.

This guy is garbage though, no need to even sugar coat it. Seriously guys, he's not anywhere close to even being an "average" NBA player. He stunk it up in summer league, and his stats last season were lousy. There's not much room on any NBA team for an undersized, unathletic shooting guard. Let's not even get into how bad he is on the defensive end...

Let's check out some of his stats from last season:
4.4 ppg on 39% from the field, and 37% from 3, with as many turnovers as assists per game... If you can't guard a damn barstool you better be knocking down 47%+ of your 3 points attempts ala Novak. While 37% from 3 is respectable, he's by no means "automatic" from that distance.

Advanced stats indicate he's not nearly as good of a scorer, or as efficient as you some of you think he is. Last season he posted:

PER: 8.4(League average is 15)
TS%: .488%(League average was .542%)
eFG%: .471%(League average was .498%)

yeah, extremely underwhelming stuff right there.

The sad thing is, you could argue Morris is even worse than Goudelock, and i'm still scratching my head as to why he got a 2 year deal on the Lakers of all teams! But just because Morris is still hanging by a thread, that's no reason to keep other scrubs around. My point being, both Morris, AND Goudelock don't deserve to be on this roster. If Goudelock was cut to make room for DJO(who has more upside IMO) then management made the right choice.

wcsoldier81 · by **wcsoldier81** on Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:08 am

Frank Dux wrote::man10:

"Mini Mamba" is probably the worst nickname in the league, and I cringe every time I hear someone say it.

Maybe you have a complex

KB24 · by **KB24** on Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:31 am

anything else would have shocked me.

He can score and shoot but he is absolutely useless in about everything else.

jimbo327 · by **jimbo327** on Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:50 am

Wow, moved to NBA discussion. Cold. :man10:

432J · by **432J** on Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:13 am

i don't get this move

i know he'll get little to no playing time anyways but he can score, and he's shown that. i know for sure he'll throw down 35 on the lakers once he signs with another team. guaranteed

Frank Dux · by **Frank Dux** on Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:37 pm

432J wrote:i don't get this move

What don't you get? He's one of the worst players on the roster and he doesn't have a guaranteed contract. Total no brainer.

D.B. Cooper · by **D.B. Cooper** on Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:28 pm

432J wrote:i don't get this move

i know he'll get little to no playing time anyways but he can score, and he's shown that. i know for sure he'll throw down 35 on the lakers once he signs with another team. guaranteed

I get why... $$$ i agree with you, he'll come back and light up Blake if he's still around

Whatthef? · by **Whatthef?** on Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:18 pm

I guess nobody wanted Duhon. :bang:

Juronimo · by **Juronimo** on Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:30 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
432J wrote:i don't get this move

What don't you get? He's one of the worst players on the roster and he doesn't have a guaranteed contract. Total no brainer.

I have to agree. He can shoot and he has that floater but he is so woefully bad at everything else. And good point about Novak, I believe Steve Kerr shot something like 45% from three. If Goudelock could shoot like that maybe keep him around. But he doesn't, and I don't blame management for not wanting to shell out more money since we have Darius Morris who's guaranteed. If Darius Morris didn't have a guaranteed deal than maybe they'd bite and keep Goudelock around.

432J · by **432J** on Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:59 pm

Frank Dux wrote:
432J wrote:i don't get this move

What don't you get? He's one of the worst players on the roster and he doesn't have a guaranteed contract. Total no brainer.

steve blake says hello :wave:

kray28 · by **kray28** on Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:07 pm

jimbo327 wrote:Wow, moved to NBA discussion. Cold.

That might have been pretty charitable as I think it's a strong possibility that Glock's NBA career is pretty much over.

XXIV · by **XXIV** on Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:10 pm

432J wrote:
Frank Dux wrote:
432J wrote:i don't get this move

What don't you get? He's one of the worst players on the roster and he doesn't have a guaranteed contract. Total no brainer.

steve blake says hello

Duhon and Morris send their regards.

lakersStan24 · by **lakersStan24** on Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:56 pm

I Can See Him Going To The Bobcats He Can Link up with Ramon Sessions!

ramsay13 · by **ramsay13** on Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:15 pm

How much do the lakers owe him?

Phil XI · by **Phil XI** on Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:26 pm

None. He got daily pay while in camp (around $1300 per day) but his contract was non-guaranteed so he gets nothing else.

JSM · by **JSM** on Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:35 pm

Real GM wrote:Rio Grande Valley’s Andrew Goudelock and Fort Wayne’s Tony Mitchell have been named NBA Development League Co-Performers of the Week for games played March 18 – March 24. This is the second time Mitchell has received Performer of the Week honors this season.

Goudelock (6-3, 200, College of Charleston) led the Vipers to a 3-0 week averaging 26.3 points on 60 percent shooting from the field to go with 5.7 assists and 2.7 rebounds. He scored a season-high 41 points on 16-of-23 shooting on March 24 in a 116-107 win over the Fort Wayne Mad Ants, which helped Rio Grande Valley clinch a playoff berth. In 31 games for Rio Grande Valley this season he is averaging 20.8 points, 5.9 assists 4.3 rebounds and 37.3 minutes.

Doc Brown · by **Doc Brown** on Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:42 pm

I'd love to see Glock in MDA's offense. My God he would light it up. Imagine him getting Meeks or MWP's 3 point attempts.

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