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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:45 pm

^ He's never even played in the Finals, but he will this year. :man10:
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby D.B. Cooper on Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:55 pm

Rooscooter wrote:The "not being able to sign because he's in Italy" is bogus..... you can execute international trade contracts legally via FAX if it's done right.....or any other contract for that matter. I've done similar contractual executions farther away that Italy....

If he hasn't signed yet it's for other reasons... He may have agreed but is waiting to hammer out details after after other potential roster moves are completed (Howard or Pau trades for example)....

Maybe he's on vay cay and didn't exactly go to Europe to sign contracts. Or is that bogus too...
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby lakersin4 on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:42 pm

Maybe Mitch told him we weren't using the mini MLE & he got a guarantee that if they decided to use it after landing Howard, he'd get it..
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:48 pm

D.B. Cooper wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:The "not being able to sign because he's in Italy" is bogus..... you can execute international trade contracts legally via FAX if it's done right.....or any other contract for that matter. I've done similar contractual executions farther away that Italy....

If he hasn't signed yet it's for other reasons... He may have agreed but is waiting to hammer out details after after other potential roster moves are completed (Howard or Pau trades for example)....

Maybe he's on vay cay and didn't exactly go to Europe to sign contracts. Or is that bogus too...


Makes more sense than than anything else.

I'll bet it's an agreement and won't be finalized until we know what we are doing with the front court......
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby D.B. Cooper on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:53 pm

Yep, I get the feeling(maybe it was mentioned) that Grant Hill didn't sign with us because the FO isn't sure if we'll have to take back Richardson or Turk.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby Lakerjones on Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:54 pm

D.B. Cooper wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:The "not being able to sign because he's in Italy" is bogus..... you can execute international trade contracts legally via FAX if it's done right.....or any other contract for that matter. I've done similar contractual executions farther away that Italy....

If he hasn't signed yet it's for other reasons... He may have agreed but is waiting to hammer out details after after other potential roster moves are completed (Howard or Pau trades for example)....

Maybe he's on vay cay and didn't exactly go to Europe to sign contracts. Or is that bogus too...


RE: signing while away - these days it's quite easy to sign documents remotely via Docusign. Lawyers and their clients use it, Realtors and their clients use it ... It's been pretty standard procedure in those two fields for a couple/few years now.

RE: Jamison - what a great pick up. So glad he decided to come here. Now maybe the whiners can stop crying about "no one ever wanting to sign with us" for less money, etc. He'll be an excellent addition. Now re-sign Jordan Hill, get a decent bench shooter with the MMLE and we're good to go. Reloaded!

I could care less about D Howard and Orlando's demands right now. One backup SG and Hill and I'm completely satisfied.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby trodgers on Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:40 am

Kobe Bryant 8 wrote:Wow, we got lucky for real.

Or we have put ourselves into good positions and one of them fell in line.

Jamison as Worthy? Okay, that's a bit silly. Two-time all-star vs. Seven ASGs, some third team all-NBA mentions, Finals MVP, and a huge cog in three championships?
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby strikemode14 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:43 am

this signing is the beginning of the end of pau gasol in a lakers uniform...and most likely ron artest as well b/c they probaly trade gasol for a stud SF.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby nameant on Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:48 am

strikemode14 wrote:this signing is the beginning of the end of pau gasol in a lakers uniform...and most likely ron artest as well b/c they probaly trade gasol for a stud SF.


I don't see it. The only thing I see is Pau being money with that jumper in a Steve Nash pick & roll.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby karacha on Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:01 am

strikemode14 wrote:this signing is the beginning of the end of pau gasol in a lakers uniform...and most likely ron artest as well b/c they probaly trade gasol for a stud SF.


I think that is unlikely. We'll play with 3 bigs now, Jamison assuming Odom's role, at least until next summer. We're only renting him for a year to be Pau's backup and score off the bench, while Pau moves to the 5. I don't think Pau is going to be traded now, especially if we get Dwight. He does earn a lot of money, but his contract expires in 13/14, and he fits really well.

You let him and Nash figure stuff out this year, and then you have a huge expiring to work with. Trading him now - again, if we get Dwight - is absolutely unnecessary. He backs up Dwight, Jamison backs up Pau, and garbage minutes go to JO or any other big who is willing to come here cheap.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby KB24 on Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:36 am

I would still consider trading pau...he has no balls and has been absolutely dominated b2b in the post-season by lesser players like Landry, Ibaka or Faried. Nowitzki raped him but at least he is supposed to be in the same league.

If a good offer comes along, Pau has to go. No trade should change that notion. 20 Mio. of wasted cash.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby JSM on Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:52 am

Mark Medina of the LA Times wrote:Here are five reasons why Jamison's arrival significantly improves the Lakers' bench.

1. Jamison provides the Lakers needed scoring punch. It's safe to predict the Lakers' bench won't rank last anymore in points as it did last season (30.5). Jamison's whole calling card involves scoring points. His 17.2 points and 6.3 rebounds may mark a decline relative to his career averages (19.5 points, 7.9 rebounds). But considering the 36-year-old is entering his 16th year in the NBA, it's clear Jamison has mastered staying efficient.

To a small degree, the Lakers points per game average as a bench unit is misleading simply because the team's identity features a star-studded starting lineup. Both Lakers coaches Mike Brown and Phil Jackson had in seasons past mixed plenty of combinations that featured the reserves with the starting lineup. Still, the Lakers finished 27th in the NBA in overall efficiency (27.2), and plenty of that rooted in the Lakers lacking a consistent scorer.

The Lakers may not be fretting Lamar Odom's absence as much these days since the trade exception from his trade eventually landed them Nash. But the Lakers still couldn't find ways to directly compensate for Odom's loss. WIth Jamison's arrival, it appears the Lakers have filled that vacuum relatively speaking.

2. Jamison's experience will pay off in various ways. His Sixth Man of the Year award may have happened only eight years ago. But it generally requires a player to adopt the right mentality in coming off the bench. That often requires a player knowing how to feed off the rhythm of the game and contributing regardless of when he enters the lineup.

The Lakers may not experience such heavy roster shuffling as they did last season since Brown will have more familiarity with his roster. But in terms of the unit gelling together, Jamison's experience shows he'll have little issue in adapting to any new role. Add in previous history with Brown (half season with Cleveland in 2010) and Steve Nash (Mavericks teammates in 2004), and it appears Jamison will have minimal hiccups fitting in with the Lakers.

3. Jamison's defense may be suspect, but he may indirectly help that effort. Jamison doesn't fit the defensive characteristics Brown gushes over. He's not scrappy. Jamison doesn't intimidate opponents in the lane. In fact, he doesn't defend much at all. These weaknesses mostly have to do with abiility, though. So don't expect Jamison to elevate his defensive focus just because he's on a championship-caliber team. But he can upgrade it in another way.

Jamison's scoring will inevitably create more ball movement and more offensive chemistry. Because that unit wll be more engaged, it will be more likely to channel that extra enthusiasm into staying disciplined on defense. All in all, the scoring and added chemistry he creates will offset any baskets the Lakers concede.

4. The Lakers have an insurance policy in case they can't re-sign Jordan Hill. The Times' Mike Bresnahan reported the Lakers still hope to sign Hill, but won't spend too much money to ensure that happens. Ideally, the Lakers would pursue Hill considering his scrappiness gives the Lakers an added element on their frontcourt depth. But the Lakers are already strapped pretty tight by securing Nash and possibly obtaining Howard (and a possible additional weighty Orlando contract) that it's just unrealistic.

Jamison has a completely different skill set than Hill. But his presence still ensures that the Lakers aren't completely thin on the frontcourt. Should this scenario unfold, it's critical Josh McRoberts can provide the energy he once did at the beginning of his arrival.

5. Jamison could also give the Lakers minutes at small forward. For now, Jamison is presumed to play heavier minutes at power forward. The Lakers declined to waive Metta World Peace through the amnesty provision. Although the Lakers haven't signed a deal, Devin Ebank's agent told The Times recently the two parties agreed to a one-year deal worth a little over $1 mllion. Still, the Lakers could experience a void at this position.

They're not expected to re-sign veteran forward Matt Barnes. Even if I witnessed World Peace appearing to be in good shape at a workout Tuesday at UCLA, his play always remains unpredictable. It's possible Ebanks' increased role could yield some speedbumps. As a last-case resort, the Lakers could lean on Jamison to play at small forward if these scenarios unfold.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:54 am

I think Medina is off about McRoberts. I know a lot of posters here hate him for some reason, but depending on him and McRoberts as a two man group off the bench doesn't sound great to me. You need a real banger in the last few minutes left at the backup C position after Gasol and Bynum.

I'm think that could easily be filled by the cheap option of our 60th pick. We don't need Hill.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:31 am

therealdeal wrote:I think Medina is off about McRoberts. I know a lot of posters here hate him for some reason, but depending on him and McRoberts as a two man group off the bench doesn't sound great to me. You need a real banger in the last few minutes left at the backup C position after Gasol and Bynum.

I'm think that could easily be filled by the cheap option of our 60th pick. We don't need Hill.

We hate him because he sucked last year.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby hypotenuse on Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:42 am

So i read the entire article and maybe i missed it but how much is the veterans minimum under the current (new) CBA?

Just wanted to know how much exactly we're paying to have jamison on the roster.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:45 am

KeepBynum wrote:
therealdeal wrote:I think Medina is off about McRoberts. I know a lot of posters here hate him for some reason, but depending on him and McRoberts as a two man group off the bench doesn't sound great to me. You need a real banger in the last few minutes left at the backup C position after Gasol and Bynum.

I'm think that could easily be filled by the cheap option of our 60th pick. We don't need Hill.

We hate him because he sucked last year.

He barely played. Not his fault, but that's beside the point. This is the Jamison thread.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:47 am

therealdeal wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:
therealdeal wrote:I think Medina is off about McRoberts. I know a lot of posters here hate him for some reason, but depending on him and McRoberts as a two man group off the bench doesn't sound great to me. You need a real banger in the last few minutes left at the backup C position after Gasol and Bynum.

I'm think that could easily be filled by the cheap option of our 60th pick. We don't need Hill.

We hate him because he sucked last year.

He barely played. Not his fault, but that's beside the point. This is the Jamison thread.

There's a reason he barely played. When he was given minutes he did nothing. Hopefully we can get rid of McScrub.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:37 am

KeepBynum wrote:There's a reason he barely played. When he was given minutes he did nothing. Hopefully we can get rid of McScrub.

not true. But like I said this is the Jamison thread. Get back on the right subject.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby purp n gold on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:56 am

Kobe Bryant 8 wrote:
BDG wrote:Kelly Dwyer actually wrote a decent article for once but then reminds us that he's ... well ... Kelly Dwyer with this last line.

Signing the modern-day equivalent of James Worthy, even if he is in the winter of his career, will do that to a team's fortunes.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby Enforcer on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:38 am

I didn't know Jamison hooks up with prostitutes
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby nthydro on Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:07 am

Jamison is definitely an improvement over the garbage we have on our bench but I'm concerned about how much he has left at 36. He came off his worst shooting season last year, although I think he'll get much better looks playing next to our starters. It's just that CL is notorious for hyping up role players only to have them stink it up.
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Re: Lakers agree w/ Antawn Jamison to 1 year minimum contract

Postby LOSLAKERS on Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:30 am

nthydro wrote:Jamison is definitely an improvement over the garbage we have on our bench but I'm concerned about how much he has left at 36. He came off his worst shooting season last year, although I think he'll get much better looks playing next to our starters. It's just that CL is notorious for hyping up role players only to have them stink it up.


a 36 year old averaging 17ppg in 33 minutes is good in my books. He's not even going to need to take that many shots so when he does they will be good/better looks. he was on a crappy Cavs team and was forced to be a big scorer.
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