Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:50 pm

If he can stay healthy, Anthony Davis will go down as one of the all-time greats. He will break all sorts of statistical records in rebounds, blocks, and overall stats.

This guys is an absolute beast. He's smart. Doesn't turn the ball over. Complete team player.

Monster shot blocker. Quick. Can shoot. Can dribble. Plays on offense. Plays on defense.

He's only 20 years old but he's putting up a 26 PER. Usually superstars peak when they get above 26 PER. But this is only his second year. My prediction is that he will be a KG/Duncan hybrid type of player. He's that good.

He is the 3rd most valuable player in the league after Lebron and Durant.

The only thing stopping him from all-time greatness is perhaps health and his teammates. Will he stay healthy? Will New Orleans, which has never built a contender, be able to build a good team around him?
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Frank Dux on Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:04 pm

I thought he was going to be KG lite. Elite defense, with limited offense, but his all around game has really impressed me, and his scoring is more advanced than many thought this early. The way he moves is breathtaking. So mobile and fluid.

He's a monster, it's too bad he'll be stuck with an incompetent franchise for awhile.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:19 pm

Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:He is the 3rd most valuable player in the league after Lebron and Durant.


Agree with everything you said, except the above. PER isn't everything. I will admit I'm surprised at how well he's doing. I didn't think he'd be this good, this fast.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:07 pm

He's off to a good start. HOF is a popularity contest and media darling contest...... It's become a joke with who gets in and who isn't in. It's kind of the the "All" teams at the end of the year..... Stats and popularity.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:58 pm

Rooscooter wrote:He's off to a good start. HOF is a popularity contest and media darling contest...... It's become a joke with who gets in and who isn't in. It's kind of the the "All" teams at the end of the year..... Stats and popularity.


I think the NBA has done a good job of getting the right people in. Case in point: Rodman. He has the rebounds, but not the usual numbers that get people in the Hall. When he went in, it restored order, IMO.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:44 pm

John3:16 wrote:
Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:He is the 3rd most valuable player in the league after Lebron and Durant.


Agree with everything you said, except the above. PER isn't everything. I will admit I'm surprised at how well he's doing. I didn't think he'd be this good, this fast.

PER isn't everything. But have you looked at his raw stats? The guys is super efficient at everything and total team player. He gets his stats within the flow of the game.

And who else is more valuable than him?
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:27 pm

Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:PER isn't everything. But have you looked at his raw stats? The guys is super efficient at everything and total team player. He gets his stats within the flow of the game.

And who else is more valuable than him?


More valuable? MVP voters criteria or mine? I'd take the following 10 players over him: George, KD, Bron, Melo, Love, Griffin, Paul, Harden, Westbrook, and Kyrie. I know age should be factored in, and I did for the most part. I'm not saying he's a scrub -- like I said, I agreed with most of your original post. I just don't think he's 3rd (or really that close to it). I'm sure in a year or two he'll be firmly seated in the top 10 and might be closer to 5, but he's not there yet.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:26 pm

John3:16 wrote:
Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:PER isn't everything. But have you looked at his raw stats? The guys is super efficient at everything and total team player. He gets his stats within the flow of the game.

And who else is more valuable than him?


More valuable? MVP voters criteria or mine? I'd take the following 10 players over him: George, KD, Bron, Melo, Love, Griffin, Paul, Harden, Westbrook, and Kyrie. I know age should be factored in, and I did for the most part. I'm not saying he's a scrub -- like I said, I agreed with most of your original post. I just don't think he's 3rd (or really that close to it). I'm sure in a year or two he'll be firmly seated in the top 10 and might be closer to 5, but he's not there yet.

KD and Lebron. That's it. I'm sorry but New Orleans would have to be a insane to trade AD for any of those guys you mentioned.

Melo? :man4: Are you trolling me?

Griffin is 4 years older and AD is already a better player than he is. Why the hell would Griffin be more valuable?

Paul? He's a better player right now but he's also 8 years older. AD has 8 more years until he reaches his prime.

Harden? Really? This guy's raw stats and PER are much lower and he's older and he's on a bigger contract. Harden is a guard. AD is a big man. No chance.

Westbrook? Same ordeal with Harden.

Kyrie? Kyrie is the worst player in this group. He's young but he's a PG. You can find a good PG everywhere. No way.

Paul George? He could potentially be as valuable as AD but I sure as hell wouldn't trade AD for George.

I don't know if you're trolling me or not but you got to try harder if you are.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:05 am

^^
I think it's you trolling now. 3rd best? Really?

I was trying to be nice, but you're just being ridiculous now.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:48 am

If he can stay healthy is a big IF ... then let's see what kind of impact he can have on a good team ... the potential is definetely off the charts but some fans give way too much importance to player's stats , especially whose are playing on bad teams.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:40 pm

John3:16 wrote:^^
I think it's you trolling now. 3rd best? Really?

I was trying to be nice, but you're just being ridiculous now.

3rd best? I said 3rd most valuable player in the league.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:41 pm

Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:
John3:16 wrote:^^
I think it's you trolling now. 3rd best? Really?

I was trying to be nice, but you're just being ridiculous now.

3rd best? I said 3rd most valuable player in the league.

The fact that you think Melo is more valuable than AD is a joke. Some people here don't even want Melo.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:56 am

[quoif you e="Fly Like A Mosquito Bite"]
Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:
John3:16 wrote:^^
I think it's you trolling now. 3rd best? Really?

I was trying to be nice, but you're just being ridiculous now.

3rd best? I said 3rd most valuable player in the league.

The fact that you think Melo is more valuable than AD is a joke. Some people here don't even want Melo.[/quote]

Re-read what I said. I said I'd take him over AD - not that he was more valuable. 3rd best or 3rd most valuable are different, but equally nonsense. Just stop.

But if you insist on your stance, tell me why the rest of the world disagrees with you and explain why your guy is 3rd most valuable.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby laakers on Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:02 am

^^^ I think his point is that Davis has made great leaps since even his rookie season last year, and still shows so much sign for potential. With his age and already All-Star level of play, he sizes up to be possibly the TD or KG of this next era, which would absolutely put him in top 5 valuable/best. If I were starting a franchise today, I might actually also take him after Lebron and KD, just because of his age and potential. But I wouldn't say that he's more valuable or better than already established players. He's still very raw and unproven, hasn't made the playoffs yet. Give him 2 years and we'll see where he is.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:02 am

laakers wrote:^^^ I think his point is that Davis has made great leaps since evgn for potential. With his age and already All-Star level of play, he sizes up to be possibly the TD or KG of this next era, which would absolutely put him in top 5 valuable/best. If I were starting a franchise today, I might actually also take him after Lebron and KD, just because of his age and potential. But I wouldn't say that he's more valuable or better than already established players. He's still very raw and unproven, hasn't made the playoffs yet. Give him 2 years and we'll see where he is.


I don't disagree with that. I just don't have him top 3 "right now".
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby halekulani on Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:43 am

AD is easily t5 right now in my book

bigs can just impact both ends of the floor much better than any of the elite pgs. nobody can guard cp3, but it's not like he wouldn't get torched by kyrie or tp either.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:12 pm

John3:16 wrote:[quoif you e="Fly Like A Mosquito Bite"]
Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:
John3:16 wrote:^^
I think it's you trolling now. 3rd best? Really?

I was trying to be nice, but you're just being ridiculous now.

3rd best? I said 3rd most valuable player in the league.

The fact that you think Melo is more valuable than AD is a joke. Some people here don't even want Melo.


Re-read what I said. I said I'd take him over AD - not that he was more valuable. 3rd best or 3rd most valuable are different, but equally nonsense. Just stop.

But if you insist on your stance, tell me why the rest of the world disagrees with you and explain why your guy is 3rd most valuable.[/quote]
PER of 26, big man, 20 years old, rim protector, plays on both sides of the ball, unlimited potential. Find me 3 players like him.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:39 pm

Does Lets Go Lakers have 2 accounts?
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:40 pm

I think this kid will be a monster in the league. Everytime I have wathced him I have been impressed with his overall game on both ends of the floor.
For what it's worth, the Lakers also clinched the Pacific Division, an achievement Bryant dismissed by saying "We don't hang divisions." No, only the big NBA championship banners are considered wall-worthy for the Lakers.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:41 pm

OH and 3rd best in the league at this point in his career? That is crazy. Hell if you start with KD and LBJ that means we start at #3 and at this point I wouldn't take him over L Aldridge in Portland. Long term maybe but right now skill vs skill I'd take LA right now and no one puts LA top 5 in the league let alone top 3.
For what it's worth, the Lakers also clinched the Pacific Division, an achievement Bryant dismissed by saying "We don't hang divisions." No, only the big NBA championship banners are considered wall-worthy for the Lakers.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:58 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:OH and 3rd best in the league at this point in his career? That is crazy. Hell if you start with KD and LBJ that means we start at #3 and at this point I wouldn't take him over L Aldridge in Portland. Long term maybe but right now skill vs skill I'd take LA right now and no one puts LA top 5 in the league let alone top 3.

No, I said 3rd most valuable.

Find me 3 players more valuable if you disagree.

Edit: I also disagree on LA being better. LA is averaging 23ppg on below average efficiency. That's not a top 5 player material. That's actually really bad for a big man.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby Fly Like A Mosquito Bite on Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:00 am

John3:16 wrote:Does Lets Go Lakers have 2 accounts?

Not to offend you or anything but you listed 10 players that you thought were more valuable than AD. I thought you were trolling me.

There aren't 10 players more valuable. There are only 2. KD and LB.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby KB24 on Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:17 am

If he plays the Lakers 82 games a year, he will go down as the greatest to ever lace em up and beat all Chamberlain records easily.

On a more serious note...to me he is missing an all-time great go-to move to be an all-time great. He is utilizing a lot of athleticism right now but I want to see that move you know is coming but can't do anything to stop it...be it the MJ fadeaway, the Kobe pullup, the Sky Hook, a crazy floater or a deadly J....whatever it is, I can't say whats his best move in the 4-5 games I have seen from him and usually you should be able to see that in 4-5 games.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby John3:16 on Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:33 am

Fly Like A Mosquito Bite wrote:
John3:16 wrote:Does Lets Go Lakers have 2 accounts?

Not to offend you or anything but you listed 10 players that you thought were more valuable than AD. I thought you were trolling me.

There aren't 10 players more valuable. There are only 2. KD and LB.


I've said it already, but I'll say it again, re-read what I said. i said "who i would take" right now. Meaning they are better RIGHT NOW. Meaning hes not the 3rd best RIGHT NOW. I then went on to say in a year or two he will probably be in the top 5, which further emphasized my point of NOT RIGHT NOW. when i think of MVP, I'm thinking "best player". He's not. And not 3rd either.
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Re: Anthony Davis - HoF Player in the making

Postby abeer3 on Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:12 am

i'll defend the mosquito. there are only two players I'd trade davis for in the nba: LeBron and Durant. after that, I'm hanging up the phone. I agree that he needs to find ways to score as a #1 option, but I think this will come (I'm expecting a jumphook and turnaround jumper from the mid post area to augment is improving 18-footer). if he stays healthy, he's another kg, but less menacing to tiny white dudes.
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