Are the Heat trolling?

Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:07 am

Like they did something like this the previous season where they had people thinking there were "issues". But they were pretty much beating people pretty good leading up to the title in which they won.

I think they coast the first half of the season then turn it on the second half. There's really not much competition in the East anyway so they won't lose much ground to anyone.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:08 am

Part of it is "motivation" issues ala Lakers in 2010-2011 ... Allen has been ATROCIOUS for a while though

They won't beat the Pacers without HCA so they can keep coasting all they want
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Weezy on Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:24 am

No, not at all IMO. Most experts will say or acknowledge that this is just the sort of thing that happens to a team that's won multiple titles in a row. We had a much harder road in 2002 than the previous seasons, we rolled the regular season in 2000, and the playoffs in 2001, 2002 was harder in both. I don't think the Heat will even have that, the East is awful.

The Heat are mostly being smart to me, there's absolutely no reason to go all out to win every regular season game for them. They have some older players, Wade's health is always a concern late in the season, all they need to do is get to the playoffs pretty injury free and as fresh as possible. This is a team that has been to 3 finals in a row, they're trying to get to a 4th, which hasn't been done since the 80's. I think they know they need to play it safer, fatigue can be a factor later if they don't.

So no I don't see them trolling, or that they are fake struggling at times, they know they aren't going to want every regular season game as much as these other good teams coming in hungry to prove something to them, or the bad ones who see beating the champs as a highlight of their season. Happens to almost all championship teams that keep their rosters intact. Complacency, trouble getting up for seemingly meaningless games, mental fatigue, physical fatigue. Hate to say it but I think they'll be right there at the end again, only Indiana has any chance at all of taking them out in the East.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:29 am

Barring injury they will coast to another finals and probably breeze once there. They play defense when it counts…. other than Indiana and maybe SA there is no other team that can turn up the kind of pressure they can.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby halekulani on Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:42 am

we're almost at the midpoint of the season
they just lost 3 straight
otherwise they're still 27-11

i can see them taking a few breaks throughout the rest of the 2nd half, but i don't think they feel pressured to win 60 games at all. besides, they coast every game for the first 3 q anyways.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby abeer3 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:46 am

i think they know they can win on the road for two series if need be, so why empty the tank trying to get hca. plus, it's got to be difficult to keep up the intensity in the regular season after three straight finals trips. lakers fans have seen this. they're still the team to beat, and everyone knows it.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby 432J on Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:46 pm

kind of reminds me of the 2010-2011 lakers

they're still the team to beat and have a great record but fatigue from 3 straight finals appearances and injuries might be kicking in, not to mention the motivation issues we saw with the lakers that season. they'll still make a deep run but im not so sure they can get past indiana
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:55 pm

No, they just lack motivation.

But I think they might need HCA advantage against Indiana. I don't see them winning game 7 in Indiana, if it goes to 7. That's what HCA is all about. It's not about winning a road game for games 1-6. Anyone can do that. It's about playing game 7 at your place just in case it gets that far. The intensity of the crowd goes up several notches. Do you think we win game 7 of the 2010 Finals if it was in Boston? I seriously doubt it.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby halekulani on Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:54 pm

but indy has youth to push 60+ w

when you're planning on making your 4th straight finals appearance w miami's current roster and age, you can't wear yourself out just to get hca. it's better to just conserve energy.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:15 pm

They think they can wait and turn it on for the playoffs. That's all I see happening right now.

They're going to lose to Indiana though.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby thkthebest on Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:34 pm

It's so hard to judge the Heat because you know they can play at a higher level. How much higher though? Because the Pacers are just dominating.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:34 pm

they can afford to coast. The east is horrid. They have 1 real challenge to getting to the Finals. The West teams will beat each other again. All they need is a little luck and Lebron to show up for 2 games and its a wrap. Thats how they won the last 2
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby halekulani on Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:45 pm

kinda rooting for the spurs to take this year's trophy
i h8 the east
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Forward Three on Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:02 pm

I watched most of last night's game and they definitely were looking bored/disinterested for much of it, but there were also a few times when they started to start gunning it and they did successfully cut a 34-point deficit down to as low as 9, but when the deficit went back up to 15 or so they (mostly Lebron) gave it one last push before basically calling it a night with most of the 4th quarter remaining.

Most of the Heat games I've watched this season(or kept an eye towards on my phone) have been 3.5 quarters of very routine, by the numbers basketball followed by a half a quarter of full throttle play to win it.

I'm not sure if it is fair to say they are 'trolling' exactly, but they are clearly pacing themselves and being extremely conservative. It's extremely unlikely that they finish below the 2 seed in the east so their HCA should be good enough to get them back to the Finals, the only X-factor is that the Pacers absolutely can beat them in a 7 game series(they arguably *did* last year save for the Lebron/Wade whistle show) so I dunno, it's kind of annoying though, the only real reason to watch Heat games is to watch Lebron, but the way he's playing, super conservatively and very conscientious of his stats and efficiency has been pretty boring most of the time. Plus, Heat fans are so pathetically quiet and disinterested half the time it makes watching Heat Basketball just seem like this really bizarre bubble universe set inside the NBA where the team is stacked enough no one is really giving it 100% effort for most of the games while even the fans don't seem to care that much. Damn waste of a couple of championships if you ask me.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Balance&Options24 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:02 pm

Them and Indy pretty much have a free pass to the eastern Finals.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Weezy on Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:29 am

thkthebest wrote:It's so hard to judge the Heat because you know they can play at a higher level. How much higher though? Because the Pacers are just dominating.


I don't have as much faith in Indiana as everyone else seems to. They're still young, and IMO putting too much importance in winning all these regular season games to prove how good they are, and I think it could cost them in the end. Not that I expert them to just lose games on purpose, but IMO Miami and a team like the Spurs know how to pace themselves, the Spurs know how to do it while STILL winning all these games. I hope I'm wrong, but I see guys like George and Stephenson still not being ready to close like Durant and Westbrook haven't and LeBron and the Heat outdoing them in the end one more time.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:56 am

^^^^ Pacers know they need HCA against the Heat that's why they play the regular season very seriously ... they lost to the Heat in 7 last season and think the outcome would have different if Game 7 was at Indiana ... they lost 2 competitive playoffs series against Miami , I think they finally ready to beat them .

Taking care of the ball/create good looks in the clutch is still the main question mark on the Pacers
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Weezy on Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:09 am

I thought about that as well, Indiana wants to show they are a great team with all these wins, but yes I think they feel they need HCA, Miami might not. I also do not trust George or anyone Indy has to close a series against the Heat, as I haven't seen it happen yet. LeBron has shown he can be mediocre in a series and then still close, Wade has shown he can, hell even Bosh has proven he can show up in a big game. Until I actually see it happen, I'm not going to believe they can beat Miami.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:02 am

Oh sure there are still doubts ... it was the same for Lebron winning a title , Dallas not choking in the playoffs ......

I kind of agree with you , it looks " too early" for George to lead a team to a title ... it's more about D and team effort for the Pacers though ... I see a lot of similarities with the 04 Pistons squad , very solid at each starting position (minus Hill who is average imo) with no superstar and a team which plays outstanding D .

I think Indiana will beat the Heat but lose in the Finals to OKC assuming Westbrook is available and healthy
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:05 am

I think Indy is ready to beat Mia. Them taking Mia to 7 last year saids a lot. And it does look like they will have HCA this year. And you look at the fact that Mia has been to 3 straight finals. History suggests teams almost never make 4 straight finals appearances. A team can only peak and stay on top for so long while the rest of the league catches up.

Of course Hibbert played out of his mind in last year's playoffs and will need to have a similar series for them to have a chance. He was the X factor.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:37 am

They do look a lot like the 2003 Lakers this year. There's no doubt that the big three can turn on the switch when the playoffs start, but not the rest of the team. There will be some burnt out cast members when the ECF arrives.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Forward Three on Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:48 pm

Understanding the Heat will likely have a 5th gear ready for the postseason, one thing that is a little surprising with their season thus far is that they've been fairly average on the road, they still win more than they lose, but the games are often a lot closer and nowhere near as productive. They are fortunate the East is so weak, if they were 2x defending champs on the West and started their next campaign with this inconsistent road performance they'd be bounced in the first round.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:18 am

I wonder who is going to step up and save their a** in the playoffs now that Mike Miller is gone? That's the piece, IMO, that's going to be their downfall.
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:21 pm

Doc Brown wrote:I wonder who is going to step up and save their a** in the playoffs now that Mike Miller is gone? That's the piece, IMO, that's going to be their downfall.

I sort of agree, but as long as they have Ray Allen coming off the bench they will always have the 3pt threat with him. I don't care how bad he is playing now, in the playoffs if he is taking a 3 I am nervous.

Still p***** me off that he saved Lebron and the Heat's butt with that last second shot after the heat kept getting the offensive rebounds in Game 6 :bang: :bang:
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Re: Are the Heat trolling?

Postby noobiew on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:53 pm

They are clearly costing to me, watched some Heats game and you can see they were really coasting and not interested in the game, you saw Lebron and Wade smiling on the bench when the team was losing, this was never happened before last two season, as they really doesn't care for the regular season games anymore, the regular season is simply a practice time for Lebron and to pad their stats up. Not to mention their only real competition in the East is Pacers, so just coast the regular season game to preserve energy and stay healthy come playoff time where they can really turn-it-on and up their game, the Heat can pretty much sweep any Eastern playoff team other than the Pacers even without the HCA.

So don't be fool by them, they are still by far the best and most stacked team in the leagues (3 HOF and 3 All-Stars this season), the most important thing for them this season is to stay healthy come playoffs time, I have no doubt they will raised the intensity and play their real game once reach the playoffs, I hate to see it but I think they will win it all the way and 3-peat this season.
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