Best basketball decade?

Best basketball decade?

Postby Finwë on Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:16 pm

I was watching the '98 or '97 WCF (don't remember), it was game 6, Jazz vs Rockets, featuring Stockton & Malone for the Jazz and Olajuwon, Drexler & Barkley for the Rockets. I absolutely loved that game, and couldn't help but notice that I generally like the 90s style of play much more than today.
I think, in terms of style of play, not taking available talent into account, the 90s were the best basketball decade. It was just an almost perfect balance of all the features of the game. There was outside shooting, mid-range shooting, pick and roll and dribble penetration, post and interior play. Previous decades had a bit too much interior play and too little shooting for my liking, and shot selection wasn't the best, and the current game is the other way around, way too many 3s and screen and rolls and little post action and interior play.
Besides, the league was tougher than it is now, not dirty, but tough. The level of intensity was much higher IMO (all around) and there was just enough physicality.

Just in terms of being truly fun to watch, but not because of X and Y players but because of the way the game was played, what do you think was the best basketball decade?
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Johnnyboy on Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:32 am

90's TV shows/movies/basketball/music >>>>>>>>the rest
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Weezy on Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:48 am

The 90's were great if you like defense, very physical NBA ball played by men at the top of their games not protected by weak foul rules and images. The NBA didn't do all it could to make the league as high scoring as possible, it just was what it was, some teams played high scoring, some played and won ugly. I remember some of those Knicks teams being especially brutal to watch if you liked scoring above else, they had some huge players that would probably have done just as well in football(Larry Johnson and Anthony Mason come to mind). Personally I liked that though, their games were absolute defensive battles a lot of the time, it was to me as exciting to watch, if not moreso, than high scoring games. Also like you said though, so many great inside players, great shooters and guards, great balance all around. Big men of the 90's were so skilled though, they had post games and could shoot from at least 15 feet as well, that combo is so rare today.

I think most people would say that the 80's were the best NBA decade though, I just can't because I didn't watch them as I was born in '84, started watching in '92. I can say I will not disagree with anyone who says the 80's though, so many great teams, so many all time great players, fundamental play. And what I have seen of the 80's though most players could really shoot, so I'm not sure I agree with "too much inside play". Early 2000's were great too, with the last holdovers from the 90's making up some great teams like our champion Lakers, the Blazers, Spurs, Queens, and Pacers to name a few.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby purp n gold on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:02 am

It's the 80's by a long shot. Between titles and playoff rivalries, there was a flowing narrative between the Sixers, Celtics, Lakers, Pistons & Bulls... and it featured Dr. J, Bird, Magic, Isiah and a young Jordan. Hard fouls, post play, and run n gun basketball. We are in a good era now, but it doesn't come close to the 80's.

I was too young for the 80's, so the 90's are the most nostalgic for me. I think 90-95 were excellent. Defenses were tactically advanced, but still physically brutal like the 80's. Scorers in this era were truly talented, plus there were far more post players. But with a lot of busts & tragic injuries, there was talent drop-off by the mid 90's. Top if off with a lockout in '99, it's difficult to name the 90's the best decade.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby purp n gold on Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:41 am

Johnnyboy wrote:90's TV shows/movies/basketball/music >>>>>>>>the rest


I don't agree necessarily, but I'll use any excuse to post this:

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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby 432J on Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:36 am

it would be a toss-up between the 80s and 90s for sure

i'd give the 90s the slight edge
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby nameant on Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:20 am

80's was better for basketball but the 90's was still great. People always discredit the 90's bc MJ won all those titles but the 90's was a damn good era for basketball. So many of the all-time greats from that era...much more competitive than 2000-present.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby trodgers on Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:52 am

Johnnyboy wrote:90's TV shows/movies/basketball/music >>>>>>>>the rest

:hurl:

For reals?

If we're just tossing out personal preferences, 1970s cinema was better (and probably cinema from the 1940s to 60s, too), 1980s TV and music was better, current TV is far better, but I do like 1990s basketball.

For better or worse, so many people alive now see the 90s as a shaping influence in their lives (like I see the 80s). Let's wait another decade and see how much that stuff starts to fade.

I'll throw this out there: The Cosby Show (84-92) is better than any TV that existed solely in the 1990s.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:18 am

Since I've watched the game from 72' on I'd have to say each decade had it's good and bad parts.

70's.... The NBA was fighting for it's life early in this decade and the league was very lopsided in that there were a few teams that had stability and could bring players back from year to year. The ABA was exciting and was probably the better league for a couple years just before the merger. Overall the game was offensive oriented, fast paced and fundamentally sound. This is a "lost era" IMO.... some of the greatest players ever played in obscurity because of the limited television coverage.

80's.... Showtime and the C's.... Magic and Bird brought the game to the masses. Financial stability allowed teams other than the top 3 or 4 to have the money to build and keep talent. TV revenue poured in as did endorsements. Stern won a few big court battles allowing him to rid the game of the drug stigma and ban a few high profile players in the process (Richardson and Drew). The game was fast paced and became very competitive.

90's... Bully-ball ruled the day as Detroit squashed Showtime. The influx of college players with little or no experience began to have an effect in that the overall fundamental level of play declined. I wasn't a huge fan of the type of play of the 90's

2000's... The game changed in a couple ways.... less physical and a little more erosion of fundamentals with the influx of High Schoolers. The game is better balanced between defense and offense and is fairly competitive from top to bottom.

Of all the Era's I would say that I had the most fun watching the 70's and 80's over the 90's. The 2000's is right in there as well.....
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Finwë on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:49 am

purp n gold wrote:It's the 80's by a long shot. Between titles and playoff rivalries, there was a flowing narrative between the Sixers, Celtics, Lakers, Pistons & Bulls... and it featured Dr. J, Bird, Magic, Isiah and a young Jordan. Hard fouls, post play, and run n gun basketball. We are in a good era now, but it doesn't come close to the 80's.

I was too young for the 80's, so the 90's are the most nostalgic for me. I think 90-95 were excellent. Defenses were tactically advanced, but still physically brutal like the 80's. Scorers in this era were truly talented, plus there were far more post players. But with a lot of busts & tragic injuries, there was talent drop-off by the mid 90's. Top if off with a lockout in '99, it's difficult to name the 90's the best decade.

I don't disagree but I said not taking available talent into account. Bird, Kareem, Magic, Isiah, young Jordan, Dr. J, they were great and fun to watch, but I meant what decade was the most fun to watch just by how the game was played, not by what players where competing
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Finwë on Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:54 am

Rooscooter wrote:
90's... Bully-ball ruled the day as Detroit squashed Showtime. The influx of college players with little or no experience began to have an effect in that the overall fundamental level of play declined. I wasn't a huge fan of the type of play of the 90's

Yeah but that was early in the 90s. PJ's Bulls took down the Pistons and they never won again. When I said 90s, the period I focused on the most would be, say, from '92-'99 (though I would like to expand that to '02 just because of the Lakers' dinasty :man9:)
The style of play in that period, to me, was fantastic and very well balanced.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:18 am

Im going to go with the 80's. That had true rivalries, good guys, bad guys, fundamentally sound players and fans knowledgeable in the game as a whole not just in "players". I admit I could be bias because of the showtime Lakers but growing that hate for the Celtics and watching us win still gives me a big smile.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:49 am

Long live the 90's.

It's a toss up between that and the 80's but since I am a huge fan of the Bulls, I can't go wrong with seeing Michael win his 6. The 80's rivalries platformed the NBA to what it is today, but Michael Jordan changed the game of basketball.

That being said, there was still a huge influx of stellar players all over the league. Games were competitive and the eastern and western conference had decent talent.

All time great big men in Ewing, Hakeem, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Malone, Barkley, Shaq, Shawn Kemp, Mutombo

All time great guards in Stockton, Payton, Jordan, Drexler, Miller, Hardaway, Kidd

All time great wings in Pippen, Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway,

God the 90's was amazing
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby TIME on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:44 pm

1980s>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

2000s>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Everything else.


Side note for all you 90s guys: how many trophys did the Lakers win in the 90s? Tell me again how the 90s could possibly be the best?
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby TIME on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:46 pm

Chillbongo wrote: since I am a huge fan of the Bulls, I can't go wrong with seeing Michael win his 6.


Your opinion is auto-invalidated. :boxing1:
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:47 pm

TIME wrote:
Chillbongo wrote: since I am a huge fan of the Bulls, I can't go wrong with seeing Michael win his 6.


Your opinion is auto-invalidated. :boxing1:


Except '91 :man12:
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby TIME on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:48 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
TIME wrote:
Chillbongo wrote: since I am a huge fan of the Bulls, I can't go wrong with seeing Michael win his 6.


Your opinion is auto-invalidated. :boxing1:


Except '91 :man12:


Sure, throw me a half eaten bone. :disagree:
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:55 pm

TIME wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:
TIME wrote:
Chillbongo wrote: since I am a huge fan of the Bulls, I can't go wrong with seeing Michael win his 6.


Your opinion is auto-invalidated. :boxing1:


Except '91 :man12:


Sure, throw me a half eaten bone. :disagree:

Haha, all joking aside, I loved the players of the 90's. That's why it gets my vote. He did say "basketball" decade.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby TIME on Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:08 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
TIME wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:
TIME wrote:
Chillbongo wrote: since I am a huge fan of the Bulls, I can't go wrong with seeing Michael win his 6.


Your opinion is auto-invalidated. :boxing1:


Except '91 :man12:


Sure, throw me a half eaten bone. :disagree:

Haha, all joking aside, I loved the players of the 90's. That's why it gets my vote. He did say "basketball" decade.


I get that, but for me:

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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:18 pm

I still have yet to see a better playoff series than Lakers vs. Kings.

Early 2000's get my vote.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby gcclaker on Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:28 pm

1980's... Seriously talent laden teams back then even with the Showtime squad and that other one that ruled the decade.

Denver...Dallas...Seattle...Portland...Houston...Atlanta...Philadelphia...Miwaukee...Detroit...all were high scoring, balanced teams. It seemed like each team had one well known star player and a good supporting player or cast with him.
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby trodgers on Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:35 pm

Chillbongo wrote:All time great big men in Ewing, Hakeem, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Malone, Barkley, Shaq, Shawn Kemp, Mutombo

All time great guards in Stockton, Payton, Jordan, Drexler, Miller, Hardaway, Kidd

All time great wings in Pippen, Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway,

God the 90's was amazing

1980s: Magic, Larry, Moses Malone, Adrian Dantley, Parish, McHale, Kareem, MJ, English, Barkley, Dr. J., Nique, Gilmore, Isiah, Worthy, Dennis Johnson, Hakeem, Drexler, King, Gervin, Malone
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby pound4pound1 on Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:46 pm

i did not enjoy the 90s at all
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby gcclaker on Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:11 pm

trodgers wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:All time great big men in Ewing, Hakeem, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Malone, Barkley, Shaq, Shawn Kemp, Mutombo

All time great guards in Stockton, Payton, Jordan, Drexler, Miller, Hardaway, Kidd

All time great wings in Pippen, Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway,

God the 90's was amazing

1980s: Magic, Larry, Moses Malone, Adrian Dantley, Parish, McHale, Kareem, MJ, English, Barkley, Dr. J., Nique, Gilmore, Isiah, Worthy, Dennis Johnson, Hakeem, Drexler, King, Gervin

Jamaal Wilkes, Michael Cooper, Calvin Natt, Lafayette Lever, Bernard King, Marques Johnson, Jack Sikma, Bob Lanier, Sidney Moncrief, Dan Issel, Bobby Jones, Andrew Toney, Kiki Vandeweghe, Gus Williams, Mark Aguirre, Buck Williams, Mike Mitchell, Jeff Ruland, Rolando Blackman, Ralph Sampson, Micheal Ray Richardson, Dan Roundfield, World B. Free, Joe Dumars, Sleepy Floyd, Purvis Short, Reggie Theus...
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Re: Best basketball decade?

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:28 pm

Haha, I don't know what you guys mean by "all-time-greats" but I may have been a bit eager as well.

T, a handful of those guys played in the 80s and 90s. Some dominated in the 80s, others in the 90s. Like I left Isaiah out because he was more elite in the 80s, despite winning the title in 1990.
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