Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:57 am

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Clippers' Griffin slam dunks against Grizzlies during Game 6 of their NBA Western Conference basketball playoff series in Los Angeles Reuters

We all know Blake Griffin needs a more consistent jump shot.

Spare me the “all he can do is dunk” line because first, it’s not true, and second, the dunk is the single most efficent shot in basketball and if a guy can get five or more dunks a game he should take every one of them. I’d rather have any NBA player dunking rather than shooting a 15-footer. Well, not J.J. Barea, but every other NBA player.

But to space the floor, make him a more dangerous player and for the good of the Clippers offense he needs a more consistent outside shot. Last season he averated 3.9 shots per game from 16 feet out to the arc and shot 37 percent on those (via Hoopdata.com). That has to improve. And he knows it.

He was on the Champs podcast — something found by Beckley Mason at TrueHoop — and was very open and honest about working on his jumper before Team USA training camp.

I hired a shooting coach. I work with him every single day.

Yea (his old shooting form was) kind of a fadeaway or a push-arm shot. Or bring it behind my head — slightly. Like if you watched me shoot you wouldn’t be like, “That’s a terrible shot.” It was decent, I guess. But now I’ve just kind of streamlined it. But I’ve still got a lot of work to do.

You struggle with it because when you relearn all this stuff I guess you shoot terrible. You shoot worse than you ever have. Then you turn a corner when it all kind of clicks together. It’s not really relearning to shoot, completely, but I turned the corner and felt a lot better about it. Then I got hurt… lost it all!

Griffin needed minor knee surgery after an injury during Team USA training camp (he had to miss the Olympics and was replaced on the roster by Anthony Davis).

But really this is just more time to work on the jump shot. And his comedy. But mostly his jump shot.


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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:38 am

^^^ :man10:

That article had to be written by a life long fan of a consistent cellar dweller. The only people that would want high flying dunks over a sound basketball fundamental like the 15 foot J are fans that root for losing teams.

95% of the league can dunk, I'd say a large portion of big men in the NBA (PF/C) can't hit squat from mid range.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby nameant on Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:01 am

I mean...the dunk may be the most efficient shot in basketball, but it's not the most likely one. Maybe if we're talking Yao Ming with the mentality of Dwight Howard...then yes, dunk the ball every time, but it's just not a reality. If you're most efficient shot is a dunk, you won't have a career once those legs get older.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby purp n gold on Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:02 pm

all he can do is dunk.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:38 pm

purp n gold wrote:all he can do is dunk.

But he can do it in a variety of ways by using his off arm to push defenders away
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby 432J on Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:40 am

maybe he should change his shot so that he doesn't release the ball right before his feet touch the ground again. such an ugly shot
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby KB24 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:57 am

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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:49 am

He's a terrific player, but he's got to improve his lowpost game if he ever wants to take that next step from terrific player to great player. Props to him though for hiring a coach.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:06 pm

He's an incredible athlete, but I wouldn't call him an incredible player.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:07 pm

I was also looking for the part of the article where he admits he has mental issues.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:18 pm

In no particular order.....

Pau / LMA / Love / Bosh / Dirk / Smith / Cousins / Garnett / Millsap / Lee

I'd take all of them over Griffin. Griffin is awful on defense, low post moves is a joke, jumper is a joke, he's injury prone, a flopper, can't shoot FT's.......he's just an athletic big who can dunk. I'm not impressed with him.

He's more on the level of....Anderson / Thad Young / Scola / Boozer / Ilyasova.......to me in terms of all around game.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby purp n gold on Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:23 pm

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:
purp n gold wrote:all he can do is dunk.

But he can do it in a variety of ways by using his off arm to push defenders away

You're right, he deserves more than a max contract :man10:
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:52 pm

Odd title (last part).... what "mental" issues?
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:16 am

Doc Brown wrote:In no particular order.....

Pau / LMA / Love / Bosh / Dirk / Smith / Cousins / Garnett / Millsap / Lee

I'd take all of them over Griffin. Griffin is awful on defense, low post moves is a joke, jumper is a joke, he's injury prone, a flopper, can't shoot FT's.......he's just an athletic big who can dunk. I'm not impressed with him.

He's more on the level of....Anderson / Thad Young / Scola / Boozer / Ilyasova.......to me in terms of all around game.

Are you serious? Yeah I agree he's overrated, but he's still a 20 & 10 player. None of those players except Love are 20 & 10 players like Griffin. He's definitely top 5 at his position.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Scnottaken on Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:28 am

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:In no particular order.....

Pau / LMA / Love / Bosh / Dirk / Smith / Cousins / Garnett / Millsap / Lee

I'd take all of them over Griffin. Griffin is awful on defense, low post moves is a joke, jumper is a joke, he's injury prone, a flopper, can't shoot FT's.......he's just an athletic big who can dunk. I'm not impressed with him.

He's more on the level of....Anderson / Thad Young / Scola / Boozer / Ilyasova.......to me in terms of all around game.

Are you serious? Yeah I agree he's overrated, but he's still a 20 & 10 player. None of those players except Love are 20 & 10 players like Griffin. He's definitely top 5 at his position.

He did say in terms of all around game. To be completely honest, I'm not even sure he's on the level of Scola, because he's likely to completely lose his legs with one more injury to those legs. There's no guarantee he's even coming back 100% after this one.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:04 am

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:In no particular order.....

Pau / LMA / Love / Bosh / Dirk / Smith / Cousins / Garnett / Millsap / Lee

I'd take all of them over Griffin. Griffin is awful on defense, low post moves is a joke, jumper is a joke, he's injury prone, a flopper, can't shoot FT's.......he's just an athletic big who can dunk. I'm not impressed with him.

He's more on the level of....Anderson / Thad Young / Scola / Boozer / Ilyasova.......to me in terms of all around game.

Are you serious? Yeah I agree he's overrated, but he's still a 20 & 10 player. None of those players except Love are 20 & 10 players like Griffin. He's definitely top 5 at his position.


Read my post again and find the little nugget of in there, that states, "In terms of all around game".

If you think Blake Griffin is top 5, in terms of all around game, at PF, you've never seen him play, except Sportscenter.

And he's not a top 5 PF anyway you look at it. He's number 11 to me, I'll take any of the guys I mentioned in the top 10 over him at this point and it's an easy decision.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:07 am

Doc Brown wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:In no particular order.....

Pau / LMA / Love / Bosh / Dirk / Smith / Cousins / Garnett / Millsap / Lee

I'd take all of them over Griffin. Griffin is awful on defense, low post moves is a joke, jumper is a joke, he's injury prone, a flopper, can't shoot FT's.......he's just an athletic big who can dunk. I'm not impressed with him.

He's more on the level of....Anderson / Thad Young / Scola / Boozer / Ilyasova.......to me in terms of all around game.

Are you serious? Yeah I agree he's overrated, but he's still a 20 & 10 player. None of those players except Love are 20 & 10 players like Griffin. He's definitely top 5 at his position.


Read my post again and find the little nugget of in there, that states, "In terms of all around game".

If you think Blake Griffin is top 5, in terms of all around game, at PF, you've never seen him play, except Sportscenter.

And he's not a top 5 PF anyway you look at it. He's number 11 to me, I'll take any of the guys I mentioned in the top 10 over him at this point and it's an easy decision.

By your logic Dwight Howard isn't an elite big man. C'mon now at the end of the day he's still a 21/11 player. How many PF's can say that? Not many. I can count on my finger how many. Griffin is overrated, but he's still a terrific bigman. One of the best in the NBA. The only power forward who was better statistically last season was Kevin Love. He's as good as any power forward outside of Love.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:32 am

By my logic?

Let's compare D12 by my logic.....

Awful defense - no (DPOY 3 times)

Low post moves a joke - no, D12 has moves.

Jumper is a joke - D12 has a 12-15 foot bank shot he's been getting better at

Injury prone - 1st injury suffered this past year in his whole career

Flopper - no way

FT's - Can't shoot them

Is just an athletic big that can dunk - Not even close to that

My logic doesn't work with D12, but nice try.

I don't care what his stats are he's a very flawed player.

And by your logic, David Lee put up 20/10 this past season so he is the number 3 best PF in the league.

Love / Griffin / Lee......come a little stronger beyond the the pts and rebounds or you will have to agree David Lee is one of the top 3 PF's in the game today.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:44 pm

purp n gold wrote:all he can do is dunk.


Careful now..... we Laker fans live a similar glass house now..... can't be throwing rocks at players that dunk more than anything else...... :man1:

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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby jimbo327 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:10 pm

Blake Griffin is a beast. That's all. Carry on with the rest of the conversation.

He needs to stop pausing on the top of his shots, it is almost like a hitch in that it stops the whole flow of the shot. I hope he hires the right shooting coach, not all are the same. He should go hire the same shooting coach as D. Rose.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:51 pm

Blake is one of the most athletic PF's in the league. He even tops LeBron in athleticism. He's also a fierce competitor. But he needs to work on his post moves, and develop a better-looking shot.

I don't like him because of his butthole attitude, but that's what makes him a competitor.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby Scnottaken on Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:54 am

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:Blake is one of the most athletic PF's in the league. He even tops LeBron in athleticism. He's also a fierce competitor. But he needs to work on his post moves, and develop a better-looking shot.

I don't like him because of his butthole attitude, but that's what makes him a competitor.

This is exactly why I don't think he'll make much noise in the league for very long. His game is more dependent on his athleticism than anyone else's, and on top of that, he's quite injury prone.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby purp n gold on Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:00 am

Scnottaken wrote:This is exactly why I don't think he'll make much noise in the league for very long. His game is more dependent on his athleticism than anyone else's, and on top of that, he's quite injury prone.


This has been said for many players in the past, but I can't think of anyone who perpetuates this notion more than Blake Griffin. If Blake knew how to hedge a pick he wouldn't have gotten injured for the Olympics.
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby S.R.05 on Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:44 am

where does he say anything about mental issues?
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Re: Blake Griffin Hires Shooting Coach, Admits Mental Issues

Postby therealdeal on Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:16 am

purp n gold wrote:
Scnottaken wrote:This is exactly why I don't think he'll make much noise in the league for very long. His game is more dependent on his athleticism than any of the premiere players in the league, and on top of that, he's quite injury prone.


This has been said for many players in the past, but I can't think of anyone who perpetuates this notion more than Blake Griffin. If Blake knew how to hedge a pick he wouldn't have gotten injured for the Olympics.

Fixed.

Guys like Deandre Jordan and Javale McGee are also ultra dependent on their athleticism.

I agree with you guys though and I've been saying it. He's going to crash and burn soon if he doesn't diversify his game. Not to mention, injuries are going to start sapping that athleticism pretty quickly here and he's going to be an afterthought fairly quickly.
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