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Bulls Still Want To Re-Sign Luol Deng (Pg. 2)

Postby Kobe8Fan on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:08 am

Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

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By Mike McGraw

When John Paxson first took over as Bulls general manager in 2003, he mentioned an early piece of advice he received from a more experienced colleague: “Never trade an established player for a nonestablished player.”

Paxson has given way to Gar Forman, but surely that advice has been passed along in the Berto Center board room.

So why would the Bulls even think about trying to trade Luol Deng for a high draft pick?

That does appear to be one of the strategies under consideration right now, league sources confirmed. A draft camp meeting with North Carolina forward Harrison Barnes was mentioned on the team’s website, but there’s probably no single target.

And yes, it does seem odd that Deng would go from leading the NBA in minutes per game to trade bait. That can be explained, however.

The Bulls are disappointed Deng is planning to wait until after the London Olympics to repair a torn ligament in his left wrist. Really, though, missing the first month or two of next season is irrelevant in the long run.

The Bulls have plenty of love for Deng. The issue here is being backed up against the luxury tax and trying to create flexibility for the future.

Next season, Deng, Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer, Joakim Noah will make roughly $56 million combined. If those four could lead the Bulls to the NBA Finals, there would be no problems. Even forgetting about how injuries might spoil next season, the team’s greatest strengths the past two years were Rose and depth.

The Bulls will have to ditch the depth unless they can move one of the high-salaried players. Rose is going nowhere, obviously, and there’s virtually no interest around the league in Boozer. Of the other two players, Noah is arguably tougher to replace as a mobile 7-footer who can anchor the defense.

So that leaves Deng as the best candidate to be shopped. A trade is no sure thing, since Deng has two more years left on his contract at a hefty $27.6 million and could miss the start of next season.

The ideal trading partner would be a team with cap space and a roster full of young players who could benefit from Deng’s veteran presence. Minnesota is a nice fit, but the Timberwolves traded away their lottery pick long ago.

Golden State, with No. 7 selection, could use a player with Deng’s winning history. The problem is, the Warriors already have four high-priced players in Andrew Bogut, David Lee, Richard Jefferson and Andris Biedrins, with an extension for Stephen Curry coming in a year or two.

Toronto, picking No. 8, might be interested. The Raptors have cap room, but they haven’t been able to lure many free agents to Canada in the past, so trading for Deng could make sense. In 2004, the year Deng was in the draft, Dallas got the No. 5 pick in exchange for Antawn Jamison. It doesn’t seem likely the Bulls could get a pick that high this summer.

There is no shortage of teams to engage — Sacramento at No. 5, New Orleans at 10, Milwaukee at 12, Portland with sixth and 11th picks. Besides Barnes, the Bulls could target a shooting guard such as Duke’s Austin Rivers, Connecticut’s Jeremy Lamb or Syracuse’s Dion Waiters.

The whole point is creating flexibility to make more moves in the near future, without paying the luxury tax for a team that may struggle to make the playoffs.

Trading Deng for a draft pick is by no means the only option being considered this summer. But it does show that Forman won’t be content just waiting for Rose to recover. The plan is to retool the roster and hope the team is better equipped to reach the Finals when Rose returns to his old form.

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Re: Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:51 am

Toronto bound. Perfect trade partners.

Calderon as a stopgap for Rose, pick for Deng. Its too perfect.
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Re: Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

Postby Finwë on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:52 am

Kobe Bryant 8 wrote:Toronto bound. Perfect trade partners.

Calderon as a stopgap for Rose, pick for Deng. Its too perfect.

I'm not sure I like the idea of the Bulls moving Deng. I give you that he's not playing consistently, but IMO he's one of the key pieces of their defense, which is what has made them so succesful.

He's one of the best defenders at the SF spot, he plays the passing lanes, he's great at help D, he goes back in transition.. I don't think their defense would be nearly as good without Deng.

Offensively he's been very good at times and average other times. He needs to get healthy (has been carrying injuries for like a year and a half now) and have a full training camp and he might be able to find that consistency the Bulls desperately need from him.

Having said that, if they choose to move him, that Toronto deal looks like a great option.
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Re: Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

Postby thkthebest on Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:36 pm

I don't see how Calderon for Deng is a good trade.
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Re: Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:52 pm

thkthebest wrote:I don't see how Calderon for Deng is a good trade.


They get the lottery pick, they get an expiring, they get a legit starting PG while Rose recovers.

Toronto wants a wing and badly.
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Re: Luol Deng

Postby JUST-MING on Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:22 pm

Mike McGraw wrote:In 2004, the year Deng was in the draft, Dallas got the No. 5 pick in exchange for Antawn Jamison. It doesn’t seem likely the Bulls could get a pick that high this summer.

I still can’t believe the Suns traded Loul Deng. I mean, they had Steve Nash, Joe Johnson, Loul Deng, Shawn Marion, Amar’e Stoudemire, and (sixth man) Leandro Barbosa. Too much talent for one team?
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Re: Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:25 pm

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thkthebest wrote:I don't see how Calderon for Deng is a good trade.


They get the lottery pick, they get an expiring, they get a legit starting PG while Rose recovers.

Toronto wants a wing and badly.

That's a good trade if they really plan on tanking.
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Re: Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

Postby FabFourLakers on Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:34 pm

I see Chicago doing this in hopes of landing a top pick in NEXT YEAR's draft which is gonnna be fully loaded with Shabazz and others. They trade Deng for Calderon/lotto pick, then they amnesty Boozer, and they miss theh playoffs next year with Rose rehabbing....it's too perfect. Cap Space, plus lotto picks, plus healthy D-Rose in 2013-14? I like it.
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Re: Source: Bulls Open To Trading Luol Deng For Lottery Pick

Postby dj vitus on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:53 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:I see Chicago doing this in hopes of landing a top pick in NEXT YEAR's draft which is gonnna be fully loaded with Shabazz and others. They trade Deng for Calderon/lotto pick, then they amnesty Boozer, and they miss theh playoffs next year with Rose rehabbing....it's too perfect. Cap Space, plus lotto picks, plus healthy D-Rose in 2013-14? I like it.

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Re: Luol Deng

Postby XXIV on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:06 pm

JUST-MING wrote:
Mike McGraw wrote:In 2004, the year Deng was in the draft, Dallas got the No. 5 pick in exchange for Antawn Jamison. It doesn’t seem likely the Bulls could get a pick that high this summer.

I still can’t believe the Suns traded Loul Deng. I mean, they had Steve Nash, Joe Johnson, Loul Deng, Shawn Marion, Amar’e Stoudemire, and (sixth man) Leandro Barbosa. Too much talent for one team?


How good was Loul Deng when they traded him, and was he viewed as being a good SF for the future?
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Re: Luol Deng Sees Some Truth Behind Trade Rumors

Postby Kobe8Fan on Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:43 pm

Luol Deng Sees Some Truth Behind Trade Rumors

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By Ian Whittell | Special to ESPNChicago.com

HOUSTON -- Chicago Bulls forward Luol Deng revealed this weekend that he will not be surprised if the team trades him this offseason.

While at training camp in Texas with Great Britain's national team preparing for the London Olympics, Deng said he does not believe the Bulls are shopping him in retaliation for his decision to delay the wrist surgery he needs until after the Games.

But Deng, 27, did acknowledge that he's not dismissing recent reports suggesting the Bulls are willing to trade him for a top pick in Thursday's NBA draft, with speculation mounting that Chicago could send Deng to the Golden State Warriors in exchange for the No. 7 overall pick.

Former NBA guard Speedy Claxton, now a scout for the Warriors, attended Britain's practice at the Toyota Center on Sunday afternoon.

"I believe there is always to some extent truth behind rumors," Deng said. "But as an athlete, if you get caught up in them, you are really wasting your time because it's not something you can control.

"If it's not true, a GM could always come out and say it's not true. But if a GM doesn't come out and say it, there are probably talks. And there should be. If I was a GM I would be shopping players around, too. I've got to show that I'm doing something.

"A lot of GMs don't just sit there, they're trying their options. Me, I always say there are two things when trades happen -- if I was to be let go by a team and nobody picks me up, that's probably the worst thing. But whenever you hear your name in a trade, that means there is somebody at the other end who wants you.

"As much as I want to stay on the team -- I love Chicago, I love the Bulls -- at the same time, I know the business part of it. Sooner or later, all the rumors are going to come up."

The apparent unease between the team and Deng stems from the end of the Bulls' season when, following their first-round playoff exit to the Philadelphia 76ers, Deng insisted he would not alter his long-held plans to represent Britain, the country that granted his family political asylum from the Sudan, in the Olympics.

Deng, who was raised from the age of 10 in London, had been carrying a wrist ligament injury for much of the season, yet still led the league in minutes with 39.4 per game.

However, Bulls management told Deng it would have preferred him to miss the Olympics -- the first in which Britain will enter a basketball team since 1948 -- in order to undergo surgery that would ensure his health for the start of the 2012-13 NBA season.

In a tense exit interview before Deng left Chicago, he told Bulls management that he would not entertain the prospect of missing out on the Games and presented an argument that he might not, in any case, require surgery before the start of the season.

Deng, though, does not believe the Bulls have acted in response to his stance.

"I don't think so," he said. "Me and (coach Tom Thibodeau) have a very close relationship. I spoke to (GM) Gar (Forman), I spoke to (VP of basketball operations John) Paxson, and it's one of those things you don't want to bring up.

"He's doing his job. As much as I'm playing basketball, working out, I'm doing my job. You just let it be. If it's going on, it's going on. At the end of the day there are no hard feelings and I'm not a 21-year-old kid who will get upset by it. I understand the game.

"I wouldn't want me to play (in the Olympics) either. Pax is an athlete and, as an athlete who used to play, Pax understands me wanting to play. But as a GM that's his job to try and get the team healthy and get the team ready for next year. I understand both sides to it.

"But it comes down to an injury that happened at the wrong time. I just try to let people know I'm going to be OK."


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Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby Kobe8Fan on Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:06 am

Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick and Emeka Okafor

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By Marc Stein
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The first decent NBA Draft trade rumble of the week involves an All-Star who's no stranger to the speculation game.

Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Chicago Bulls, in their latest attempt to gauge the trade value of All-Star swingman Luol Deng, have had exploratory discussions with Washington about a deal that would land Deng with the Wizards and bring the No. 3 pick in Thursday's draft to the Bulls.

The most likely trade construction, if talks were to progress to the serious stage, would send Deng to the Wizards for the No. 3 pick and center Emeka Okafor, who would have to formally opt into his contract for next season ($14.5 million) this week for the trade to go through.

Yet it's worth noting that Cleveland, sources say, has interest in Deng as well ... and there will surely be other potential trade partners to surface if the Bulls decide they're legitimately ready to part with Deng after years of flirting with the idea.


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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:19 am

GIVE ME DENG!

The dude would be a great fit with us. Athletic, defensive minded, and a hard worker. Great fit.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:29 pm

actually, i'm mad because washington was one of my most sensible "pau for lotto pick" trade partners.

to trump deng, the lakers would have to offer to take nene, which they shouldn't.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:37 pm

If that offer is on the table, Washington would have to be idiots not to take it.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:03 pm

Deng is good... but expensive compared to the 3rd pick. In Washington's position I'd pass. Deng doesn't get you over the top in his useful career span and the 3rd pick could develop into a better player at far less cost.... which is a huge deal under the new CBA.

First Round picks hold more value than ever before. You could get a great player under contract for 5 years at between 5 and 6 million per..... A FA of the same on the floor value would cost between 12 and 15 million.

That's why trading our firsts for the foreseeable future wasn't a good move IMO.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:26 pm

^ Do you think Washington would be open to taking on Pau and Chicago sends us Deng?

Perhaps WAS throws Ariza in as well and we can send Duhon/Blake/Morris...

Our SF problems would be solved with that move.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:18 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:^ Do you think Washington would be open to taking on Pau and Chicago sends us Deng?

Perhaps WAS throws Ariza in as well and we can send Duhon/Blake/Morris...

Our SF problems would be solved with that move.


I don't know about Washington but I'm definitely OK with it.. :man10:

I still can't figure why WA would want a highly paid veteran. Maybe they believe they are closer than I do.... Under the new CBA a building team would be silly to part with top 5 picks for a highly paid vet that can cripple their building process.

Think OKC.... they had a great nucleus of young very good players and that team contended at a fraction of the cost of the Lakers for example because they built through the draft. The acquisition of Perkins and giving him a big contract killed their chances of keeping that team intact. Not saying WA is in the same position as OKC but the template is out there. The days of trading and going through FA to build a team are largely gone IMO.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:28 pm

not getting an established vet puts too much on wall's shoulders. the days of trading aren't over, imo. the draft has become even more important, but mainly for teams picking late. in this particular draft, it's a huge crapshoot anyway. Washington has two very promising young guys; i'm not sure using the 3rd pick makes sense for them. trading it for a guy who can show the youngsters how to be professionals seems to make more sense to me.

and if okc wouldn't pay harden with perkins, i'm guessing they wouldn't have paid him without. the new cba says small market teams can't pay 4 guys 12 million per. okc just backed the wrong horse (ibaka), thinking they couldn't win without a talented big. also, the odds of a team replicating okc's draft success in the near future are very slim. imo, Washington already hit pretty well on two picks (and busted on one: vesely), they need guys who are ready to win, lest wall and company just learn to be perpetual losers.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:35 pm

:man10: You really don't like Harden..... I think OKC signs him stat without the anchor that is Perkins....

I still don't think WA should be adding a vet that is expensive and who's useful career is beyond their ability to compete. Getting a top flight player.... yet.. a middle of the road player with an injury history being paid nearly 15 Mil.

Chicago OTOH would be making a steal IMO. They don't have what it takes to get over the top with the current roster so they dump salary and get a young potentially very cheap producer for 4 or 5 years.

It's the type of trade we need to be making.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby JSM on Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:27 pm

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Couple small updates... Bulls reportedly called Washington about the #3 and talks didn't get much further than that. Luol Deng staying put
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:30 pm

GIVE US DEEEENG.
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Re: Bulls Explore Trade Of Luol Deng To Wizards For No. 3 Pick

Postby lakerfan2 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:01 am

I'll take Deng and a TPE for Pau. Gimmememee.
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Luol Deng and Bulls Discuss Contract Extension

Postby Kobe8Fan on Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:42 am

Luol Deng and Bulls Discuss Contract Extension

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By Adrian Wojnarowski

The Chicago Bulls are engaging in contract extension talks with All-Star forward Luol Deng, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Deng, 28, has one year and $14.3 million left on his deal with Chicago.

Bulls management and Deng's representative, Herb Rudoy, have had discussions since the end of the Bulls' playoff run and plan to talk further in the near future, sources told Yahoo! Sports. The two sides discussed broad contract parameters recently, and have plans to talk more specifically about a possible extension soon, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Deng missed games 6 and 7 of the Eastern Conference first-round victory over Brooklyn and the entire conference semifinal loss to Miami after complications arose from a spinal tap. Deng has been recovering and working his way back to full strength this summer.

Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau has long considered Deng an indispensable part of his roster, relying heavily on him as an anchor on the defensive end of the floor. Deng averaged 16.5 points, 6.3 rebounds and 3.0 assists per game for Chicago. Deng was the Bulls' first-round draft pick in 2004 and has played nine seasons with the franchise.

Bulls star Derrick Rose will return from an ACL injury next season to an expensive core that includes Deng, Joakim Noah and Carlos Boozer. Luxury tax issues will persist for the Bulls with the roster's current configuration next season.


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Luol Deng Has Come To Terms On Possibility Of Trade

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:06 pm

Luol Deng Has Come To Terms On Possibility Of Trade

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HOUSTON — Luol Deng would like to stay with the Bulls.

He has made that clear several times this season and reiterated it before the Bulls’ 109-94 loss Wednesday against the Rockets, saying, “I mean, I never played for anyone else.’’

But 10 years in the NBA hardens a player. It teaches him business over heart. So if Deng wakes up this morning, gets the call that he has been traded, so be it. No hurt feelings, no surprises.

“Maybe some guys dwell on that or would be bothered by it, but, honestly, I really don’t care,’’ Deng said. “I know that I want to be here. I’ve always wanted to be here.

‘‘But I’m mature enough to understand that I can’t worry about things I can’t control. If I wake up tomorrow, they call me and they tell me otherwise, then that’s what it is. I can’t control that. That’s their job, and they’ve got to do their job. That’s a decision they have to make on what they feel is best for the team.’’

And a scenario that could become more realistic if the biggest slide of the Tom Thibodeau coaching regime continues.

It’s no longer if the Bulls will lose, but how they’ll lose and which player will be in the training room afterward. Only 3-12 over their last 15 games, the Bulls always generate more questions than answers.

One night, it’s the shooting; another night, it’s the turnovers.

“It seems like we’re always missing somebody,’’ Carlos Boozer said after the latest loss. “This is obviously one of the toughest stretches we’ve had, our group together, but we’ll fight through it.’’

But this isn’t as bad a team as the standings indicate, Deng said. He has suffered a few down years with the Bulls, and this group doesn’t fit that mold, even at 9-15.

“It’s definitely not as bad as it looks,’’ said Deng, who had 18 points.

“You’ve got a lot of different characters of guys. I know right now in this locker room that we have guys that want to win and play hard. That’s what’s frustrating. I’ve been with guys that didn’t care, just showed up, and they won. It’s really difficult.

“Our biggest thing has been in and out, where we haven’t had the consistency in terms of playing together, even in training camp. It’s about trying to get better together, as well as improve individually.’’

It’s a task they might have to take on without Deng. While a source said last week that general manager Gar Forman had not been making calls on Deng but had received some inquiries, the free agent-to-be is one of several attractive pieces that could be moved if the downward spiral continues.

The likelihood of a contract extension is almost nil with the sides $5 million to $6 million per year apart.

“The thing is, every game you play, you try to win, but you know every game you lose, you’re behind one,’’ Deng said.

Behind one and a day closer to getting that phone call.

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