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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:51 pm

Psychobroker wrote:So why does James "Kimbo Slice" Harden get a pass?

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby revgen on Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:57 am

The 76ers' Andrew Bynum finally practices with team


John N. Mitchell, Inquirer Staff Writer
Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2013, 1:52 AM

The long and protracted wait by the 76ers to get center Andrew Bynum on the floor ended Friday as the center participated in a spirited practice, according to multiple sources.

According to at least two of the sources, Bynum, who has been working out with coaches and team medical personnel exclusively, participated in a five-on-five scrimmage with teammates. Just how long the scrimmage lasted was unknown.

This is a huge step for Bynum and the Sixers, who have just 30 games remaining in the regular season, including Saturday's game with the defending champion Miami Heat, winners of nine straight. For both parties, the most important element now is to see how Bynum's knees react in the coming days.

Earlier this week, Bynum, who has been recovering from bilateral bone bruises and weakened cartilage in both knees, told reporters that he thought he might be able to begin practicing with his teammates in one or two weeks. He also has said that he had ramped up his activity in recent days.

However, if Bynum does not experience any pain on Saturday, there exists, according to one source, the possibility that he could resume practicing sooner. Oftentimes, practicing 5-on-5 is the final step for an injured player before he plays in actual games.

The Sixers have exercised extreme caution with Bynum since acquiring the 7-foot, 300-pound center in a 12-player, four-team trade in August. Bynum, who spent the first seven years of his career with the Los Angeles Lakers, earned second-team all-NBA honors last season after averaging 18.7 points on 55.8 percent shooting. He also averaged 11.8 rebounds and 1.9 blocks.

He is making $16.8 million this season.

At the time of the trade, the Sixers said that Bynum's knees were reasonably healthy. However, right before training camp began on Oct. 2, the Sixers reported that Bynum was suffering from a bone bruise to his right knee that would prevent him from participating.

At the time, the Sixers also reported that they hoped to have Bynum, who traveled to Germany to have a noninvasive procedure on his knees - Orthokine therapy - in late September, ready at the start of the regular season.

That deadline came and went. Since that time, Bynum, who can become an unrestricted free agent this summer, suffered another bone bruise to his left knee, an injury he said resulted from bowling.

In November, the Sixers dispensed with timelines. They have listened to the center and have allowed him to tell them when he would be ready to play. Sixers coach Doug Collins, whose playing career was cut short by injury, has said that he agreed that allowing Bynum to determine when his body was ready to return.

The Sixers allow reporters to see portions of each practice at Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine. This has included segments at the end of practice. Bynum has been seen working out on the elliptical machine and the team's antigravity machine, a mechanism that allows the player to get extensive cardiovascular work without putting too much strain on the joints or ligaments.

However, reporters have yet to see Bynum scrimmaging with teammates.


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20130223_The_76ers__Andrew_Bynum_finally_practices_with_team.html
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:57 am

Hooray for Drew!

I'm glad I just traded Jrue Holiday, I have a feeling he's going to take a hit once Bynum starts playing.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Murdock on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:18 am

watching this video just remainded me how Kwame-like are Dwights hands :D
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:30 am

therealdeal wrote:Hooray for Drew!

I'm glad I just traded Jrue Holiday, I have a feeling he's going to take a hit once Bynum starts playing.


I didn't see any news on Twitter or ESPN about you trading Jrue Holiday?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:47 am

Paperwork still needs to be processed... you'd be surprised it's like buying house.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby revgen on Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:38 pm

Murdock wrote:watching this video just remainded me how Kwame-like are Dwights hands :D


Dwight can at least catch the ball.

And when he has his hops, his flaky looking jumphooks do go in more often than not. Kwame's hooks were so bad that he'd actually throw it up and hit the 24 second clock.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby JSM on Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:44 pm

He's still got a ways to go...

Brian Windhorst of ESPN wrote: Andrew Bynum practiced Friday with the Philadelphia 76ers for the first time since they traded for him last August. But instead of it being a positive moment, it only seemed to depress coach Doug Collins.

Speaking before the 76ers hosted the Miami Heat on Saturday night, Collins said Bynum's brief 5-on-5 workout only showed how far away he is from being able to play, and hinted at just what a lost season this has been for the team.

"He looked like a guy who hadn't played in nine months," Collins said. "I don't think any bells and whistles should be sent off that he's close to playing."

Bynum has been giving weekly updates on the condition of his knees, though he's often offered contradictory information. His return date from bone bruises in both knees has constantly been pushed back.

"I'll definitely be back sometime this year," Bynum said earlier this week. "I'm focused on getting back and being right versus trying to rush."

The recent hope that Bynum could return around the All-Star break was the latest to be dashed for the 76ers, who have been decimated by injuries this season. Jason Richardson, who was acquired with Bynum in a blockbuster offseason deal, had knee surgery this week and is expected to miss six to nine months.

Collins said watching Bynum go through a little practice only left him disappointed considering just how much the team's big plans have been ruined by Bynum's constant knee issues.

"It's amazing seeing him standing out there; he distorted the whole practice," Collins said. "You get visions of what might've been ... He's said that he's going to play, but this season is slipping away. We've got 24 games after (this weekend). We're eight (games) under .500, and we've got to play the Miami Heat four times."
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:34 pm

Philadelphia is going to have to make a decision about re-signing him. At this point, I think they will. I just don't know if they'll offer him a max deal...
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:42 am

I'm not sure I'd offer him the max. He's shown what he could do when he's healthy, but how often has that been?

Not enough for my taste. People are talking about maybe not giving Howard max money? Well what would you do with Bynum? I think potential might demand a max offer, but I also might see what he gets on the open market before just handing him that money.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby FabFourLakers on Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:09 pm

therealdeal wrote:I'm not sure I'd offer him the max. He's shown what he could do when he's healthy, but how often has that been?

Not enough for my taste. People are talking about maybe not giving Howard max money? Well what would you do with Bynum? I think potential might demand a max offer, but I also might see what he gets on the open market before just handing him that money.



Unfortunately for the Sixers, if they don't offer Bynum the max, some other stupid team will (see ATL, DAL, etc). And what a frustrating year for the Sixers...they gave up assets to get Bynum, and they're on the outside looking in right now for the playoffs...they were right in the thick of the playoffs last year, and because of Andrew's injury, they are scrapping to make the playoffs right now. Sixers fans must HATE andrew.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:21 pm

Well all I'm saying is that if I were Philly, I'd wait until another team offered him that deal before offering it first. If it was on the table, then of course I go max, but I HAVE to think teams are wary of giving this guy money.

ESPECIALLY under this new CBA.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby FabFourLakers on Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:08 pm

therealdeal wrote:Well all I'm saying is that if I were Philly, I'd wait until another team offered him that deal before offering it first. If it was on the table, then of course I go max, but I HAVE to think teams are wary of giving this guy money.

ESPECIALLY under this new CBA.



I don't think so. I don't think the new CBA is gonna have much affect on players like Bynum who aren't exactly walking around in the NBA nowadays. I think for players like a Rudy Gay (who got the max), it's going to affect them more than players like Bynum. I think both ATL and HOU will offer Bynum the max because they have seen how he is when he IS healthy....and they''ll take that chance on a 4 yr max deal.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:53 pm

knowing his knee condition, Bynum should've talked extension as soon as trade happened and or as soon as he felt pain in those knees again.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:43 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Well all I'm saying is that if I were Philly, I'd wait until another team offered him that deal before offering it first. If it was on the table, then of course I go max, but I HAVE to think teams are wary of giving this guy money.

ESPECIALLY under this new CBA.



I don't think so. I don't think the new CBA is gonna have much affect on players like Bynum who aren't exactly walking around in the NBA nowadays. I think for players like a Rudy Gay (who got the max), it's going to affect them more than players like Bynum. I think both ATL and HOU will offer Bynum the max because they have seen how he is when he IS healthy....and they''ll take that chance on a 4 yr max deal.

We'll see. I bet Houston offers him that contract just to mess with Philadelphia like they did with New York and Chicago. But I just don't know how many people are going to be willing to spend 80 million dollars and 2/5s of their cap on such a massive injury risk.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:30 am

Doug Collins kinda pissed off with the Sixers & frustrated with Drew's situation
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Postby KB24 on Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:56 am

Lol he creamed Bynum and every other player too.

Vujevic (traded to Magic) had 19 boards tonight...Hawes had 1. Lol
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Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:31 am

I think i would be most PO'd at Bynum though....all year its been a question mark...and I think it woulda been easier if he just shut himself down for the whole year...at least his teammates wouldn't be thinking about when he would come back...

It's been a disappointing year for the Sixers...as they gave up some nice pieces to get Bynum...and those pieces happen to be starting for the Magic now and playing pretty well....not to mention Iguodala is helping the Denver Nuggets tremendously right now with his all around game.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:42 am

KB24 wrote:Lol he creamed Bynum and every other player too.

Vujevic (traded to Magic) had 19 boards tonight...Hawes had 1. Lol


alot of outsiders were laughing at Orl for not wanting any part of Bynum, guess who laughing now :man10:
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:09 pm

He was supposed to talk to the media before the game giving an update on his health & didnt. Nobody saw him in the building either & left after the game ended
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:49 pm

khmrP wrote:alot of outsiders were laughing at Orl for not wanting any part of Bynum, guess who laughing now :man10:

:man3: PHI has a better record than ORL.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby gcclaker on Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:29 pm

KB24 wrote:Lol he creamed Bynum and every other player too.

Vujevic (traded to Magic) had 19 boards tonight...Hawes had 1. Lol

Collins is hyper. He's emotional. He's blunt. Inspite of all that, I always thought he was a good coach. On attitude alone and player management, I'd take him for D'Antoni seven days a week and twice on Sundays.

Bynum...tough to see that this season for him looks to be just about shelved. I was really looking forward to watching the Sixers and see how they do.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby juninho on Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:45 pm

According to Howard Eskin of Fox 29 News in Philadelphia, the Rockets are set to offer Andrew Bynum a multi-year contract this summer in free agency. Bynum, the 25 year old center with the Philadelphia 76ers, has missed the entire season after being traded from Los Angeles in the Dwight Howard deal.


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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:19 pm

I'll take him over MDA, but god, let's just name him interim coach for now.

Bulls with Jordan and Pippen couldn't get it done with Collins. I think he'd be a decent assistant. He's extremely head strong, not going to work in an industry of multi-millionare ego-driven athletes.

7 of 10 years as head coach he got his team to a First Round loss or worse.

When he advanced he had Michael Jordan/Scottie or a lockout season.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:56 am

Greg Oden 2.0?

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/ESPNs_Skip_Bayless_reports_Phildelphia_76ers_Andrew_Bynum_has_degenerative_knee_condition.html

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On Wednesday’s episode of ESPN’s debate-style show, First Take, there was a segment dedicated to the struggling 76ers, in which anchors Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless discussed the state of the franchise going forward after Tuesday’s embarrassing loss to Orlando that prompted head coach Doug Collins to question his team's effort.

At one point during the discussion, Bayless said that a source inside the Sixers organization told him that the most recent MRI on Andrew Bynum’s knees showed "degeneration," meaning in effect that they will never return to full strength. Bynum was also a no-show in the locker room prior to Tuesday's game, when he was scheduled to give an update on his condition.

Bayless continued by explaining that Andrew may show some flashes of the dominance he displayed last season, when he averaged 18.7 points and 11.8 rebounds per game for the Lakers, but he will be unable to sustain it, as the knees will never be able to fully recover.

Keep in mind that this is not an official report, and the fact that Bayless, not known for his NBA connections, would be the only one with access to the information should make one somewhat skeptical.

However, if turns out to be true, this would be a huge revelation for the Sixers.

The difficult decision as to whether or not they should take a chance on signing Bynum to a lucrative, long-term deal would be defunct as re-signing him could mean several more years of knee issues and little (or no) production.

If this report is true, then you can bet Bynum and the Sixers will go their separate ways.




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