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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby revgen on Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:44 am

They said the same thing about Jermaine O'Neal when he was in Boston.

O'Neal said Boston team doctors have taken MRIs of his injury and have identified potential ailments...one of those concerns appears to be knee arthritis, a degenerative condition...

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=5796803
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:09 am

I don't put much stock into Skip's, "source." However, take in mind if this is true, it's even more reason for the Sixers organization to not give him the Max deal this summer. I like Drew, but he's screwed if this information is true. Maybe he should try to find a one way ticket to Phoenix.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:37 am

Chillbongo wrote:
khmrP wrote:alot of outsiders were laughing at Orl for not wanting any part of Bynum, guess who laughing now :man10:

:man3: PHI has a better record than ORL.


uh hello, Orl goal isn't to win this year fact is Orl has a 2-3 solid role players going forward and not have to worry about committing salary to a big with degenerative knees.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby khmrP on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:38 am

revgen wrote:They said the same thing about Jermaine O'Neal when he was in Boston.

O'Neal said Boston team doctors have taken MRIs of his injury and have identified potential ailments...one of those concerns appears to be knee arthritis, a degenerative condition...

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/news/story?id=5796803


and Oneal lived up to those reports by missing most of his games played in Bos. So I guess Bynum better take JO lead and sign with Pho.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:17 am

Like I said, I'd do my homework. I'd talk to every single doctor he's ever been to to see what his knees really look like and whether or not he can recover.

Then I'd let the market dictate his price. If Houston indeed offers him a big contract, I'll surpass their offer to keep him. But if they don't and no one else does, I'd only offer him a 2-3 year deal worth that max. I'm not going to guarantee money to such a massive injury risk. I'm sorry.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Juronimo on Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:32 pm

What Skip Bayless said at 5:26 I couldn't disagree more.
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Postby Tragic on Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:23 pm

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby abeer3 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:48 pm

if you're philly, do you consider offering him a one- or two-year max deal? teams like houson are going to try to snag him AND save enough cash to get someone else. if you're philly, you can put a stop to that with some creative offers, i would think. I'd just find a price point that scare off suitors who want to load up in FA and offer a shorter deal.

if a team wants to throw 4 years, 50 million at them, let him go. but don't let him get snagged for 8 per or something like that.

and yes, if you're bynum and phx, aren't you eyeing each other? i have no idea how they continue to work miracles there.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:47 am

abeer3 wrote:if you're philly, do you consider offering him a one- or two-year max deal? teams like houson are going to try to snag him AND save enough cash to get someone else. if you're philly, you can put a stop to that with some creative offers, i would think. I'd just find a price point that scare off suitors who want to load up in FA and offer a shorter deal.

if a team wants to throw 4 years, 50 million at them, let him go. but don't let him get snagged for 8 per or something like that.

and yes, if you're bynum and phx, aren't you eyeing each other? i have no idea how they continue to work miracles there.


I'm sure they can offer a full Max Deal with a buyout clause if/when his knees limit his play. That way they get the potential upside and protect themselves somewhat from the downside.

The degenerating knee thing is frightening and if true too bad. When this kids healthy and motivated he's the best offensive big man in the game and a pretty decent defensive one as well.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:43 am

I hope he doesn't turn into a Brandon Roy case, but the longer he doesn't play the more and more likely it looks that way.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:14 pm

https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/statuses/307557903886323713

Andrew Bynum said he doesn't worry about perceptions for sitting out all year. "I'm 25. It's my life." #sixers

https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307556434390949888

"Now it's getting late. I don't know." --Bynum, on whether he'll play this season


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307558322012307457



Bynum said he WAS at WFC Tues, said he was getting treatment. Knows value of being on bench. "It's important for me to be a cheerleader."


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307558514388267008
Andrew Bynum said he experienced swelling in his right knee (the site of the original injury) after last Friday's 5-on-5 scrimmage.


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307559316339179520

Andrew Bynum: “It's like if your right arm is hurting, they punch you in the left one so you forget about the right one. Thats where I'm at"


http://sixersdish.blogspot.com/2013/03/andrew-bynum-on-whether-hell-play-this.html

As for playing to get his next contract, Bynum said he doesn't feel the need to rush anything. The Sixers have 26 games to go and Bynum, an unrestricted free agent, isn't worried about his next deal.

“Being healthy is more important than everything else,” Bynum said. “If I am healthy, I'll get a deal. I have to be able to play and I need to get to the point where I'm healthy to play.”


https://twitter.com/ChrisVito/status/307567374058541056

Collins said he's been coaching Sixers all season like Bynum would miss full season: "Always been a possibility."


https://twitter.com/gonzoCSN/statuses/307562858303070211

Bynum was 100 percent sure he'd play this year. Said that a little over a week ago. And now? Now that 100 percent has vanished #Sixerstalk


https://twitter.com/gonzoCSN/statuses/307558171872997376

When asked if he's worried about perception that he doesn't want to play in pain, Bynum said "that's true, I don't want to play in pain"
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby KB24 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:20 pm

such a crazy and weird story...On the one hand I'm extremely happy we got rid of this damaged good, on the other hand I feel bad for him.

Slowly but surely it looks like he will never be the player his abilities suggest he would become.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:37 pm

Lakerswere smart to get rid of him and upgrade at the same time. It looks like hs's going the way of Oden.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dj vitus on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:45 pm

Just imagine Phoenix with a healthy lineup of:

Bynum
Oden
McGrady
Roy

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:56 pm

The Lakers had to of known this about Bynum's knees, IMO. I'm sure the Sixers did their due dilligence, but they gambled & now left with a wasted season waiting on an injured center that might not play this season at all.

I couldn't imagine having to deal with the current cirumstances that faced the Lakers this year coupled with this if we would have kept Bynum. Strange how things turn out sometimes...
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Weezy on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:33 pm

Wow, no matter how you look at it now we got a great deal in Bynum for Howard. Bynum might not play this season, and instead of being just an expiring for us he got us a relatively healthy center that on most nights is the best in the game. I'm not a huge Howard fan, especially not as a #1 option, but that's undeniably a good deal, even if Howard walks it's a lot of money off the books, or even potentially a good sign and trade, while Drew, may never play again for all we know.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:51 pm

Weezy wrote:Wow, no matter how you look at it now we got a great deal in Bynum for Howard. Bynum might not play this season, and instead of being just an expiring for us he got us a relatively healthy center that on most nights is the best in the game. I'm not a huge Howard fan, especially not as a #1 option, but that's undeniably a good deal, even if Howard walks it's a lot of money off the books, or even potentially a good sign and trade, while Drew, may never play again for all we know.


Yes it was a good deal. I don't think Andrew was going to re-sign here and I think he made that clear. He's also not the kind of guy you can coerce with the larger max deal by his current team.... he's always been a little more "independent" than the average NBA player.

The bone bruise injuries will heal and typically they do not leave permanent damage. If he has degenerative cartilage (something I've dealt with since my Football days) that is a different story. At 25 he may have another 3 or 4 years before the bone on bone condition sets in..... then it's over....
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby karacha on Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:43 pm

So much talent, but... weak knees will slow his career to a crawl. I wish him all the best, obviously, but when he comes back, he'll be incredibly rusty, and who knows if he's going to get hurt again.

And I wonder... who is going to offer him a fat contract this summer? Will someone take that risk?
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby LAKEROC on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:14 pm

^ He will. 7-0 and 300 pounds don't grow on trees. If Houston wants to give him a fat contract, he will go there.

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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby The Rock on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:52 pm

Well then, Magic

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Magic, though, thinks it's more of a bum attitude than anything physical.

"I loved playing basketball so I would play in pain. I did that for many years," Johnson said tonight on ESPN’s KIA NBA Countdown. "Andrew Bynum was here in Los Angeles with the Lakers. He wasn’t a guy who could tolerate pain. When he was injured, he wasn’t a guy who worked hard to get back. This doesn’t surprise me.

"Now we see why Kobe Bryant had trouble with the big man because when you think about Andrew, he’s a guy who never liked criticism. He’s not a gym rat. I think he plays because hey, I’m getting paid and I’m in the spotlight, but I don’t think he loves to play."
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby DHL on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:56 pm

bynum played on one 1 leg for our 2 championships
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby revgen on Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:11 pm

^I'm not sure what Magic is talking about there. Brain fart I guess.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby gcclaker on Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:52 pm

revgen wrote:^I'm not sure what Magic is talking about there. Brain fart I guess.

Johnson does... He once played on a torn hamstring in The Finals one year. Oh wait, that was Jerry West. My bad... Bynum slogged it out in 2010 Finals by having his knees drained just to play.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:15 pm

Such a mystery why it went so bad during the off season and early training for him after a relatively healthy year last year with us. Then he goes and does the Kobe treatment on top of it that seems to help most players' conditions. Very strange.
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Re: Andrew Bynum Discussion: Guess what? Knee flares up.

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:25 pm

It seemed like the PRP therapy was working for him until he decided to go bowling.

As for Magic's comments, maybe he's trying to tell Dwight that he'll get more respect by sucking it up while he's in LA, and do what it takes to win, healthy or not.
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