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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby JSM on Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:56 pm

Sam Amico of Fox Sports wrote: Free-agent center Andrew Bynum has met with the three teams most heavily pursuing him (Cleveland Cavaliers, Atlanta Hawks, Dallas Mavericks) and is expected to make a decision on where to sign by the end of the week.

• According to a report by Yahoo! Sports, the Cavs offered Bynum a two-year deal worth up to $24 million, provided he meets some incentives. The Mavericks, who just reached an agreement with guard Wayne Ellington (Cavs), won’t be able to match the Cavs’ offer without moving some pieces.

• While there’s been no speculation as to what the Mavs or Hawks are proposing to Bynum, many league executives feel it will be difficult to top the Cavs’ offer. That’s especially the case when you consider Bynum is viewed as a major risk after missing all of last season with the Philadelphia 76ers with knee issues.

• The Cavs, Mavs and Hawks have been provided with Bynum’s most recent medical results, and a source familiar the findings told FOX Sports Ohio, "they're not bad.”

• The source confirmed reports that the Cavs’ offer protects the organization in the event Bynum “melts down.”

• Discussions between the Cavs and Bynum also focused on giving him time to recover and bringing him along slowly once the season begins, with Bynum and Anderson Varejao splitting time at center, the source said.

• Bottom line: The Cavs aren’t too worried about paying Bynum in 2013-14. They just don’t want to be committed the following season should the experiment fail.

• The Cavs went hard after Bynum last summer in trade talks that sent Dwight Howard to the Los Angeles Lakers, Andre Iguodala to the Denver Nuggets and Bynum to the Sixers. Interestingly, those three key pieces will all be with different teams next season. (Howard with the Houston Rockets; Iguodala the Golden State Warriors.)

• It is said Cavs coach Mike Brown, in particular, is high on Bynum, having coached Bynum for one season with the Lakers (2011-12). Statistically speaking, it was Bynum’s best year. Brown supposedly believes, if healthy enough, Bynum completely changes the Cavs, “both offensively and defensively,” a source said.

• Multiple league sources have suggested Bynum’s problems in Philadelphia may not have been entirely related to his knees. Several hinted that the friction between Bynum and the organization may have played a role -- with the Sixers perhaps as much to blame as the player or the condition of his knees.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby khmrP on Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:04 pm

career plague full of injuries and teams are still lining up to throw money at this guy, its amazing how far you can get in life being a 7fter and able to put ball in a basket :man10:
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby revgen on Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:21 pm

JSM wrote:• Multiple league sources have suggested Bynum’s problems in Philadelphia may not have been entirely related to his knees. Several hinted that the friction between Bynum and the organization may have played a role -- with the Sixers perhaps as much to blame as the player or the condition of his knees.


Huh? :man3:
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:20 am

Can Mavs' medical care trump Cavs' money for Bynum?
July, 10, 2013
Jul 10
10:58
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By Tim MacMahon | ESPNDallas.com

Andrew Bynum has a two-year, $24 million offer on the table from the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Can the Mavericks trump that?

First of all, it’s about as flimsy of a $24 million deal as you’ll ever see in the NBA. The second season is a team option. The first season is incentive-laden, protecting the Cavs if Bynum spends a second consecutive season as a millionaire spectator due to his bad knees.

Nevertheless, at the moment, the Mavs can’t come close to offering $12 million per season, no matter how much of it is guaranteed. They can, however, make the case that it’s in Bynum’s best long-term interests to spend this season in Dallas.

How much is world-class medical care worth to an injury-prone NBA center? Ask Tyson Chandler, who arrived in Dallas as damaged goods and left as an NBA champion with a four-year, $55.4 million contract. That's pretty good cash for a big man who flunked a physical to void a trade that would have sent him to Oklahoma City.

The Mavs, who are meeting with Bynum today, proudly consider their medical staff to be the best in the NBA. The Phoenix Suns are certainly in that conversation, but Dallas’ staff led Team USA athletic trainer Casey Smith is certainly among the league’s elite.

If Bynum wants to make as much cash as possible this season, he probably won’t end up in Dallas. The Mavs have approximately $8.2 million of salary-cap space right now, a figure that can get six-figure boosts if they waive players with nonguaranteed contracts (Josh Akognon and Bernard James) or renounce the Early Bird rights of Brandan Wright, whom the Mavs would prefer to return in a backup role.

The only way for the Mavs to match the dollar figures offered by Cleveland is to create more cap space by dealing Shawn Marion or Vince Carter to a team with cap space. That’d be filling one big hole while creating another.

If Bynum wants to maximize his chance to sign a big contract in the future, he’d be wise to consider the Mavs even if they don’t come with the highest bid.


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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:04 pm

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Donnie Nelson would confirm that they had a visit, lunch and negotiations with Andrew Bynum.

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Nelson on visits w/Bynum and agent: "They had a nice visit with our doctors. We had a lunch. Beyond that, the negotiations are ongoing."

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Did Bynum workout for Dallas today? Donnie Nelson: "He did not."

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Donnie Nelson on where things are with Andrew Bynum: "We’re in the process of gathering information.”
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:59 pm

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Hearing that Cavs think Andrew Bynum wants to play in Dallas. But nothing official from any parties involved.

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Mavs can't come close to Cavs' offer for Bynum. But hearing, with the way contract is structured, $24 million not as grand as it appears.

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That said, chase not officially over. At last word, potential $24 million, and Mike Brown, said to have Bynum strongly considering Cavs.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby Weezy on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:45 pm

I can't believe how much money being 7 feet talk can get you, despite having terrible knees that just caused you to sit out an entire season.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:54 pm

It's not just being 7 feet. It's being 7 feet and skilled.

Look at what Gasol and Hibbert did in the playoffs.

Bigs still have value despite the "new direction" the NBA is supposed to be going.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:26 pm

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Just added to @espn_macmahon's Andrew Bynum story: Sources say Cavs' 2-year, $24M offer only guaranteed for $6M. Still Drew's highest offer

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To get full $12M in Year 1 from Cavs, Bynum would have to hit loads of contract benchmarks. And Year 2, of course, would be at Cavs' option
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby Weezy on Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:33 pm

revgen wrote:It's not just being 7 feet. It's being 7 feet and skilled.

Look at what Gasol and Hibbert did in the playoffs.

Bigs still have value despite the "new direction" the NBA is supposed to be going.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


Well the "being skilled" part I though goes without saying. My point was still I was amazed even a skilled 7 footer could get offered that much after missing an entire season. I see from what you just posted that little of that would be guaranteed though, which makes a lot more sense to me, teams need to be cautious with Drew. If you could guarantee his knees are ok I'd sign him in a second, but nobody can guarantee that. I hope he can stay healthy honestly, I'd like to see him back playing, I wish him well.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby JSM on Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:03 pm

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Privately, Cavs believe Andrew Bynum leaning toward Mavericks, sources say. @FOXSportsOH story: http://tinyurl.com/my3yvtp
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:56 pm

Bynum to Cleveland.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby lakersyunowin on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:01 pm

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Re: Bynum Discussion: POR, CLE, DAL, ATL interested (p. 295)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:04 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski wrote:Andrew Bynum's deal w/ Cleveland will include $6 million of $12M guaranteed in year 1, league source says. Team option of $12.5M for 14-'15.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby JSM on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:07 pm

If, and it's a mega if, he can stay remotely healthy (same goes for KI) then the Cavs could be a pretty good team this upcoming year.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:09 pm

Kyrie / Jack
Waiters / Miles / Karasev
Gee / Bennett
Thompson / Clark
Bynum / Varejao / Zeller

I hope they stay healthy. I want to see what that team can do.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby abeer3 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:35 pm

i'm surprised dallas wouldn't guarantee more money that Cleveland did. wonder what they know (or don't).
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby nameant on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:38 pm

So he took the most money. Shocker there.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby XXIV on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:54 pm

IF he can stay somewhat healthy the Cavs should be an interesting team to watch in the East. It's a big if though.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby 432J on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:58 pm

anyone else kind of surprised that he signed with the cavs despite potato head being HC?

don't remember them having the best relationship, especially after he was benched for shooting the 3 and the interview that followed
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby OX1947 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:06 pm

Bynum will not be healthy, ever. He doesnt give a shat.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:07 pm

Six million no matter what happens.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if he plays more than two-thirds of the season.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:25 pm

nameant wrote:So he took the most money. Shocker there.


Bum knees..... wouldn't you?

If he can show he's healed up for any length of time this will not be his last contract.... if the injuries keep coming they it will be. Can't knock him for that can you?
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby XXIV on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:18 pm

432J wrote:anyone else kind of surprised that he signed with the cavs despite potato head being HC?

don't remember them having the best relationship, especially after he was benched for shooting the 3 and the interview that followed


The Cavs offered him the most cash so it's no surprise he went with them.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:31 pm

Dallas simply couldn't move Marion or Carter. Cleveland offered the best deal.

I don't see Cleveland as a contender next season, but they have young pieces to grow with.
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